Charlotte vs Mavs 10/12 7PM EST

[DY_nasty]

JP Macura got a better long term chance with this team than Bacon

[MasterIchiro]

For what this team does, I think Graham looks better than Parker. He just pushes the pace and taxes a defense. He plays with poise and shows excellent range and decision making. He looks like he could run a team as a starter. For sure he looks like a solid backup.

[countryboi]

Doncic moves laterally like he has cement shoes on. His shot better be killer.


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[LofJ]

We shot 58% from the 3 point line

[BigSlam]

Monk is a wiling passer but he’s so reckless with the ball.

Too reckless.

Too much playground, not enough substance.

He can’t be trusted yet.


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[Diop]

Doncic is the real deal. Cuban took a big risk giving up a 1st for him. He's their new Dirk.

Didn’t even seem a big risk to me, his play was screaming star before the draft.

Atlanta are idiots

[euphorbus]

Strategies that remain from Steve Clifford's teams, to which I take exception:

1) The team abandons the offensive boards in order to "get back" in unison. At one point, the Mavericks had 24 second-chance points to only 2 for the Hornets. Even if just the center remains under the boards, that at least gives the team a chance at an offensive rebound. On the defensive boards, it's all hands on deck. At one point, the basket was surrounded by four Hornets and no Mavericks, so no one was actually paying attention to the ball. The shot clanged out, and the Mavericks got it back.

2) I often see the "four out" offense, with four guys standing around the three-point circle. It's not just boring basketball, it wastes the talents of men like Bridges and Monk, who are super fast on their feet. It's no coincidence that when the "young guns" are in the game--Monk, Graham, Bacon, Bridges, plus Kaminsky, the ball moves a whole lot faster, maybe even too fast at times.

[Hornet Mania]

Very promising preseason overall, I really hope it translates to the real thing.

We have so many intriguing young guys all the sudden (and a bench!), Miles, Monk, Graham, even Willy has looked nice. Mitch has me feeling optimistic about our young prospects eventually making us a top-to-bottom solid squad. For some reason towards the end of last night's game I kept thinking "Bridges and Graham look really good. I hope that Lithuanian kid we picked is somewhere in Europe killing it right now too."

[DY_nasty]

Strategies that remain from Steve Clifford's teams, to which I take exception:

1) The team abandons the offensive boards in order to "get back" in unison. At one point, the Mavericks had 24 second-chance points to only 2 for the Hornets. Even if just the center remains under the boards, that at least gives the team a chance at an offensive rebound. On the defensive boards, it's all hands on deck. At one point, the basket was surrounded by four Hornets and no Mavericks, so no one was actually paying attention to the ball. The shot clanged out, and the Mavericks got it back.

2) I often see the "four out" offense, with four guys standing around the three-point circle. It's not just boring basketball, it wastes the talents of men like Bridges and Monk, who are super fast on their feet. It's no coincidence that when the "young guns" are in the game--Monk, Graham, Bacon, Bridges, plus Kaminsky, the ball moves a whole lot faster, maybe even too fast at times.

the entire league doesn't value offensive boards like that. typically you'll only see one guy under the rim for a shot - if that at all. one bad bounce isn't going to devalue rolling downhill the other way on an unset defense

and there's nothing wrong with a four out offense when you're able get get good shots out of it. i brought it up in the first half, but you'd never see 3 touches and a smooth entry pass to the post for a 1 on 1 score in under 8 seconds out of a clifford team. 4 out offense isn't something he invented. again, the entire league uses this stuff and we're just now catching up on making it practical or even a strength of this squad

and cmon dude.... bacon has been a poor fit in every set and kaminsky simply has no confidence on the court and is screwed going into free agency. been apparent in every game. also another note for the young guys, they've all played better with parker on the court.

[euphorbus]

Bacon has been a poor fit in every set and Kaminsky simply has no confidence on the court and is screwed going into free agency. It's been apparent in every game. Also another note for the young guys, they've all played better with Parker on the court.

I think you misunderstood my remark. The group of Monk, Graham, Bacon, Bridges, and Kaminsky first showed up early in the pre-season and immediately made themselves known. We will have to wait a couple of months to find out which of the young guys play best together. As for Kaminsky, just look at my past comments.

I am looking at the pre-season stats, for what they are worth, and you are right, the team has outperformed with Parker and Hernangomez on the court. Hernangomez leads the team in per 36 minutes in points, rebounds, and is just behind Parker in +/1. I had no idea.

I am well aware that "four out" is now common in the NBA. I just think it is a lazy, boring strategy.

[JDR720]

First game is on wendsday, if no one makes a thread i will have one on monday or tuesday. the game is against the bucks, which i feel like we always play first.

[DY_nasty]

Bacon has been a poor fit in every set and Kaminsky simply has no confidence on the court and is screwed going into free agency. It's been apparent in every game. Also another note for the young guys, they've all played better with Parker on the court.

I think you misunderstood my remark. The group of Monk, Graham, Bacon, Bridges, and Kaminsky first showed up early in the pre-season and immediately made themselves known. We will have to wait a couple of months to find out which of the young guys play best together. As for Kaminsky, just look at my past comments.

I am looking at the pre-season stats, for what they are worth, and you are right, the team has outperformed with Parker and Hernangomez on the court. Hernangomez leads the team in per 36 minutes in points, rebounds, and is just behind Parker in +/1. I had no idea.

I am well aware that "four out" is now common in the NBA. I just think it is a lazy, boring strategy.

im note sure what's lazy about 4 out since its the basis for the most high powered offenses in the league right now

as for bacon, i like him - but he's way too ball dominant and not quite good enough to outshine the other wings on this roster. if he was in portland? he'd be just what they needed. here? there's nothing he does consistently better than Lamb. Nothing he provides has more upside than Bridges. He can't pass like Monk. He can't excel here really. Its no knock against him but unless he shows off something new - like offball shooting/scoring and a huge improvement as a defender - he's kinda out of luck.

I've got no idea why he's spent the last two years working to be discount paul george, but its not gonna work.

[MasterIchiro]

Doncic is the real deal. Cuban took a big risk giving up a 1st for him. He's their new Dirk.

Didn’t even seem a big risk to me, his play was screaming star before the draft.

Atlanta are idiots

We will have to see about Trae Young plus the player the player selected with the Dallas pick. Still, Doncic is a franchise talent. Cuban vultured into this one.