Welcome Furkan Korkmaz

[Kobblehead]

I feel good enough about what I've seen from Korkmaz to comfortably project and speculate him being as success. If your evaluation process requires more things to be played out for you before you're willing to have an opinion, that's your prerogative.

[LloydFree]

Landing Simmons and Korkmaz in the same draft is an incredible haul.

It's a shame he had to ruin all that goodwill by burning through a ton of assets to come away with Fultz and Pasecniks the very next year. But I digress.

I have high hopes for Korkmaz, but that's not an incredible haul. He hasn't even seen the court yet. Some people wanted Dejounte Murray and Malcolm Brogdon, but Colangelo takes TLC and Korkmaz. If he takes Brogdon he doesn't have to mess up 2017 the way he did.

[Negrodamus]

At the time, TLC and Korkmaz were free falling IIRC. They were considered mid first rounders. I had no problems with those picks. I definitely had no problem with the picks when it was understood that both would be euro stashes. For some reason we brought TLC over right away.

[LloydFree]

At the time, TLC and Korkmaz were free falling IIRC. They were considered mid first rounders. I had no problems with those picks. I definitely had no problem with the picks when it was understood that both would be euro stashes. For some reason we brought TLC over right away.

Free falling according to who? Either way, Dejounte Murray fell behind them.

[Negrodamus]

At the time, TLC and Korkmaz were free falling IIRC. They were considered mid first rounders. I had no problems with those picks. I definitely had no problem with the picks when it was understood that both would be euro stashes. For some reason we brought TLC over right away.

Free falling according to who? Either way, Dejounte Murray fell behind them.

Is there an article by a non-NBA scout that you will accept as evidence? Since I know that answer, I'll just post the first quote I see that validates my point:

Grade: A. This is an awesome coup for the Sixers, as Luwawu could have gone 10 picks earlier. Scouts I spoke with were high on him, praising his playmaking, defense and athleticism. He was one of the better two-way wing players in the class. The Frenchman will be a nice addition to Philly’s rebuild, and it should be thrilled to land him. — Jeremy Woo

[LloydFree]

At the time, TLC and Korkmaz were free falling IIRC. They were considered mid first rounders. I had no problems with those picks. I definitely had no problem with the picks when it was understood that both would be euro stashes. For some reason we brought TLC over right away.

Free falling according to who? Either way, Dejounte Murray fell behind them.

Is there an article by a non-NBA scout that you will accept as evidence? Since I know that answer, I'll just post the first quote I see that validates my point:

Grade: A. This is an awesome coup for the Sixers, as Luwawu could have gone 10 picks earlier. Scouts I spoke with were high on him, praising his playmaking, defense and athleticism. He was one of the better two-way wing players in the class. The Frenchman will be a nice addition to Philly’s rebuild, and it should be thrilled to land him. — Jeremy Woo

Since you already know. Then you also should know that doesn't validate your point in the least.

[Kobblehead]

Props to Dejounte Murray for developing into an all-defensive player under Pop, but I don't know if there's a less skilled G in the league that plays regular minutes. That dude sucks (relatively). I don't have any regret over not taking him with one of those picks.

I think Korkmaz will be better than every non-lotto pick taken in front of him besides maybe Malik Beasley.

[LloydFree]

Props to Dejounte Murray for developing into an all-defensive player under Pop, but I don't know if there's a less skilled G in the league that plays regular minutes. That dude sucks (relatively). I don't have any regret over not taking him with one of those picks.

I think Korkmaz will be better than every non-lotto pick taken in front of him besides maybe Malik Beasley.

Hey, I like Korkmaz. I'd rather see him starting rather than Fultz, honestly. But you can't say Colangelo knocked that draft out of the park when neither Korkmaz or TLC has done a thing in the NBA yet. I can dream on him all day long, that doesn't mean he's better than Brogdon or Murray. He's gotta do something first.

[Negrodamus]

Free falling according to who? Either way, Dejounte Murray fell behind them.

Is there an article by a non-NBA scout that you will accept as evidence? Since I know that answer, I'll just post the first quote I see that validates my point:

Grade: A. This is an awesome coup for the Sixers, as Luwawu could have gone 10 picks earlier. Scouts I spoke with were high on him, praising his playmaking, defense and athleticism. He was one of the better two-way wing players in the class. The Frenchman will be a nice addition to Philly’s rebuild, and it should be thrilled to land him. — Jeremy Woo

Since you already know. Then you also should know that doesn't validate your point in the least.

So then why even ask "according to who (sic)"? None of us have direct access to draft scouts and we are certainly not spending our days watching Mega Leks games, if they are even available.

[LloydFree]

Is there an article by a non-NBA scout that you will accept as evidence? Since I know that answer, I'll just post the first quote I see that validates my point:

Since you already know. Then you also should know that doesn't validate your point in the least.

So then why even ask "according to who (sic)"? None of us have direct access to draft scouts and we are certainly not spending our days watching Mega Leks games, if they are even available.

Exactly. So why even say he was free falling.

[Negrodamus]

Since you already know. Then you also should know that doesn't validate your point in the least.

So then why even ask "according to who (sic)"? None of us have direct access to draft scouts and we are certainly not spending our days watching Mega Leks games, if they are even available.

Exactly. So why even say he was free falling.

Because I'm not as cynical of every draft reporter's intel.

[LloydFree]

So then why even ask "according to who (sic)"? None of us have direct access to draft scouts and we are certainly not spending our days watching Mega Leks games, if they are even available.

Exactly. So why even say he was free falling.

Because I'm not as cynical of every draft reporter's intel.

No. That's not being cynical of a reporters intelligence. That's not caring where an amateur scource (DX) ranks a player.

[Kobblehead]

Hey, I like Korkmaz. I'd rather see him starting rather than Fultz, honestly. But you can't say Colangelo knocked that draft out of the park when neither Korkmaz or TLC has done a thing in the NBA yet. I can dream on him all day long, that doesn't mean he's better than Brogdon or Murray. He's gotta do something first.

I didn't say he knocked the draft out of the park, just that he ended up with an incredible haul with Simmons/Korkmaz. I'm preemptively calling it on Korkmaz. Obviously it will have to play out, but I can speculate and project, in the meantime. I don't understand the pushback on that.

Seriously, though, what would we be doing right now with Dejounte Murray? He was a terrible offensive prospect coming out of Washington and has been completely futile on that end through his brief NBA career thus far. He'd be an even less appealing fit with Simmons/Embiid than we're currently faced with Fultz being.

Luwawu turned out to be a terrible pick. I wish we took Brogdon with one of those picks (me and PhilaFinest were actually calling for that pre-draft), but I would still take Korkmaz with the other pick. Like I said, I expect him to be better than almost every non-lotto 1st rounder and maybe even some of the lotto picks.

[LloydFree]

Hey, I like Korkmaz. I'd rather see him starting rather than Fultz, honestly. But you can't say Colangelo knocked that draft out of the park when neither Korkmaz or TLC has done a thing in the NBA yet. I can dream on him all day long, that doesn't mean he's better than Brogdon or Murray. He's gotta do something first.

I didn't say he knocked the draft out of the park, just that he ended up with an incredible haul with Simmons/Korkmaz. I'm preemptively calling it on Korkmaz. Obviously it will have to play out, but I can speculate and project, in the meantime. I don't understand the pushback on that.

Seriously, though, what we would be doing right now with Dejounte Murray? He was a terrible offensive prospect coming out of Washington and has been completely futile on that end through his brief NBA career thus far. He'd be an even less appealing fit with Simmons/Embiid than we're currently faced with Fultz being.

Luwawu turned out to be a terrible pick. I wish we took Brogdon with one of those picks (me and PhilaFinest were actually calling for that pre-draft), but I would still take Korkmaz with the other pick. Like I said, I expect him to be better than almost every non-lotto 1st rounder and maybe even some of the lotto picks.

Even if Murray wouldn't be a great fit on this team, he's an All-league defender. He's still the better pick, because you can trade him for 2x as much as Korkmaz, no matter how much potential we think Korkmaz has. Now by March, Korkmaz may prove himself to be the better pick, but right now...

[Kobblehead]

Some undeserved accolade isn't going to make me lament the fact that we didn't land a guy who has averaged 6.6 points per game on 48% true shooting through two seasons.

I think Korkmaz is a better prospect and I think he'll prove to be a better player than Dejounte Murray.

[Negrodamus]

Exactly. So why even say he was free falling.

Because I'm not as cynical of every draft reporter's intel.

No. That's not being cynical of a reporters intelligence. That's not caring where an amateur scource (DX) ranks a player.

Quote wasn’t from DX. It was from an SI reporter that stated he has received a few draft scout’s analysis on TLC. Either way, it doesn’t matter. I recall multiple outlets reporting that. Feel free to retroactively disagree with their reports.

[SunsRback4Good]

What kind of name is Furkan Korkmaz? Did his parents despise him that much to give him such a name.

[Kolkmania]

Hey, I like Korkmaz. I'd rather see him starting rather than Fultz, honestly. But you can't say Colangelo knocked that draft out of the park when neither Korkmaz or TLC has done a thing in the NBA yet. I can dream on him all day long, that doesn't mean he's better than Brogdon or Murray. He's gotta do something first.

I didn't say he knocked the draft out of the park, just that he ended up with an incredible haul with Simmons/Korkmaz. I'm preemptively calling it on Korkmaz. Obviously it will have to play out, but I can speculate and project, in the meantime. I don't understand the pushback on that.

Seriously, though, what we would be doing right now with Dejounte Murray? He was a terrible offensive prospect coming out of Washington and has been completely futile on that end through his brief NBA career thus far. He'd be an even less appealing fit with Simmons/Embiid than we're currently faced with Fultz being.

Luwawu turned out to be a terrible pick. I wish we took Brogdon with one of those picks (me and PhilaFinest were actually calling for that pre-draft), but I would still take Korkmaz with the other pick. Like I said, I expect him to be better than almost every non-lotto 1st rounder and maybe even some of the lotto picks.

Even if Murray wouldn't be a great fit on this team, he's an All-league defender. He's still the better pick, because you can trade him for 2x as much as Korkmaz, no matter how much potential we think Korkmaz has. Now by March, Korkmaz may prove himself to be the better pick, but right now...

So what is your point? Because Murray and Brogdon have achieved something in this league already Bryan Colangelo should have picked those guys instead of TLC and Korkmaz? What if Korkmaz (in a hypothetical case) surpasses the production of Murray and Brogdon this year, are you going to say that the other teams made a big mistake for letting Korkmaz drop to #26?

[SexDrugsPnR]

What kind of name is Furkan Korkmaz? Did his parents despise him that much to give him such a name.

it's a perfectly normal name in turkey. i'd rather question the mental health of people who name their child d'brickashaw or somerhing like that

[mithrandir17]

What kind of name is Furkan Korkmaz? Did his parents despise him that much to give him such a name.

Same kind of name like Igor Kokoskov.