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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#141 » by cgf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:23 am

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Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.

No thanks.

I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.


A) KD is a better player than Melo, and he doesn't have those super frustrating holes in his game that he has just never addressed, that made it so annoying that Melo never chose to put an emphasis on improving his defense or creating for others outside of that one season where point-forward-Melo looked like an absolute monster.

B) KD's got rings and finals MVPs...even before going to GSW he made it to the finals and WCFs...while Melo had a long list of 1st round exits. And KD would achieve more in NYC than Melo did because he's better and would have more help which leads right into:

C) A lot of the frustration with Melo came from the trade to get him preventing the team from having the assets to build a real squad around him...especially with how fun STAT & that young team were to watch for that half-season leading up to the Melo trade. Which wouldn't be a factor with KD coming in FA...especially with KP giving us 1 young star on the team already; regardless of what Knox, Frank, the 2019 FRP, Mitch, Zo, Dot, etc. amount to.


And finally; KD may go off on social media and get riled up by silly ****, but he responds to that by winning finals MVPs. Not by succumbing to the pressure & crumbling...this isn't LeBron we're talking about :wink:



And even with all of that he will get crushed here.

He’s not built for NY


He's a great basketball player, so you're right...but maybe that's something that knicks fans should consider changing...
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#142 » by cgf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:25 am

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Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.

No thanks.

I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.


Klay was interviewed at random a few years ago while in NYC by some news reporter asking him about the scaffolding issues. The reporter had no idea he was a pro NBA player and it was just so funny to hear his responses (you could prob find it on Youtube.) His laid back style would fit perfectly in this city and with our media. His actual game would also be perfect and I'd have no problem with the Knicks offering him the full max. He's one of the few upcoming FA's that's actually deserving of that much money. He's criminally underrated IMO.

I'd still prioritize Durant, but Klay would be an incredible coup as well.


That interview is legend :lol:

But let's be real, the first time Klay was forced to create off the dribble this fanbase would turn on him and start calling him in an H2O knock-off...
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#143 » by Cookies4Life » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:32 am

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Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.

No thanks.

I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.


Klay was interviewed at random a few years ago while in NYC by some news reporter asking him about the scaffolding issues. The reporter had no idea he was a pro NBA player and it was just so funny to hear his responses (you could prob find it on Youtube.) His laid back style would fit perfectly in this city and with our media. His actual game would also be perfect and I'd have no problem with the Knicks offering him the full max. He's one of the few upcoming FA's that's actually deserving of that much money. He's criminally underrated IMO.

I'd still prioritize Durant, but Klay would be an incredible coup as well.


That interview is legend :lol:

But let's be real, the first time Klay was forced to create off the dribble this fanbase would turn on him and start calling him in an H2O knock-off...


It really was such a funny interview, his personality would fit perfectly here.

I disagree about the whole create off the dribble idea. That's not his game and he's never been forced to play that style given how GS plays offensively. There's no need for him to put the ball between his legs and try to penetrate the lane on his defender.

He's obviously a great 3 point shooter, both in stand still position and shooting it off a pick. Excellent off the ball movement as well; he's very good shooting coming off curls/off ball screens and he also cuts very well to the basket. He's also a very good post player with an above average turn around and fadeaway game. Defensively he's one of the best wing defenders in the entire league.

He's a great two way player and one of the best shooters in league history. Who knows how he'd play in more of an isolation setting as the featured scorer of a team. Up to this point that's not been his M.O. since he's able to score in such a variety of ways. He's no 3 and d type of guy, that's limiting the scope of how versatile he is.
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#144 » by awy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:33 am

kd has been getting trolled for years he'll be ok
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#145 » by Milk » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:44 am

Chris Haynes awhile back. He said KDs agent and dad are both Knicks fans.

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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#146 » by cgf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:46 am

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Klay was interviewed at random a few years ago while in NYC by some news reporter asking him about the scaffolding issues. The reporter had no idea he was a pro NBA player and it was just so funny to hear his responses (you could prob find it on Youtube.) His laid back style would fit perfectly in this city and with our media. His actual game would also be perfect and I'd have no problem with the Knicks offering him the full max. He's one of the few upcoming FA's that's actually deserving of that much money. He's criminally underrated IMO.

I'd still prioritize Durant, but Klay would be an incredible coup as well.


That interview is legend :lol:

But let's be real, the first time Klay was forced to create off the dribble this fanbase would turn on him and start calling him in an H2O knock-off...


It really was such a funny interview, his personality would fit perfectly here.

I disagree about the whole create off the dribble idea. That's not his game and he's never been forced to play that style given how GS plays offensively. There's no need for him to put the ball between his legs and try to penetrate the lane on his defender.

He's obviously a great 3 point shooter, both in stand still position and shooting it off a pick. Excellent off the ball movement as well; he's very good shooting coming off curls/off ball screens and he also cuts very well to the basket. He's also a very good post player with an above average turn around and fadeaway game. Defensively he's one of the best wing defenders in the entire league.

He's a great two way player and one of the best shooters in league history. Who knows how he'd play in more of an isolation setting as the featured scorer of a team. Up to this point that's not been his M.O. since he's able to score in such a variety of ways. He's no 3 and d type of guy, that's limiting the scope of how versatile he is.


I was getting at how he’s never had to shoot off the dribble for the Warriors...because KD & Steph are so much better at when teams have managed to force GSW to iso...so if Klay came here and had to start creating his own shot consistently, for the first time in his career, some of our fans would freak out lol.

I love KP, but Jokic he ain’t, ya know? So with KP & Klay as our top stars, we’d need to get a lot of playmaking from Frank, Kev & our 2019 FRP.
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#147 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:47 am

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Before anyone takes what i say out of context i would be ecstatic with KD as a Knick BUT....As stupid as this is going to sound i prefer Kyrie to KD. KD will be 30+ next season and i dont think we would have the requisite pieces around him to win the title and i dont really want to see us trade away Frank and Knox for vets to go all in for 2-3 years right now. Kyrie will still be 27-28 next year and we can continue to grow with him. He was an mvp candidate last year before the injury and admittedly im a sucker for the hometown kid coming home... Also i think he fits our team slightly better. Basically i think Kyrie sets us up for more sustained success than KD would. Id be happy with either or both obviously though.


I disagree, but I hear what you are saying. I just feel that KD, like LeBron is a player who impacts multiple aspects of the game. Kyrie, like Harden, can change the game on the offensive side, but not on defense. LeBron and Durant change the game on both sides.
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#148 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:50 am

I think I've change my mind on this since hahah
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#149 » by iLLSonChandla » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:03 am

KD/Rozier would make us the top team in the East
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Post#150 » by Milk » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:07 am

He’s trolling us now :lol: :nod:

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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#151 » by cgf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:19 am

iLLSonChandla wrote:KD/Rozier would make us the top team in the East


I think I'd rather have Kemba than Rozier + THJ + 2020 FRP...

Rozier just screams FA-overpay who looks a lot better in that Boston system than he will starting anywhere else.
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#152 » by awy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:52 am

dont want rozier
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Post#153 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:54 am

awy wrote:dont want rozier


And people here talking about giving him $20 million/year!!!! :o :crazy: :noway: :lol:

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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#154 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:56 am

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iLLSonChandla wrote:KD/Rozier would make us the top team in the East


I think I'd rather have Kemba than Rozier + THJ + 2020 FRP...

Rozier just screams FA-overpay who looks a lot better in that Boston system than he will starting anywhere else.


Why are you guys talking this shyt? Let's just be patient and wait. These guys are not the answer. They will fck up Franks development and the chemistry of the team (Rozier less so).

Calm the fck down! :D
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#155 » by cgf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:59 am

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iLLSonChandla wrote:KD/Rozier would make us the top team in the East


I think I'd rather have Kemba than Rozier + THJ + 2020 FRP...

Rozier just screams FA-overpay who looks a lot better in that Boston system than he will starting anywhere else.


Why are you guys talking this shyt? Let's just be patient and wait. These guys are not the answer. They will fck up Franks development and the chemistry of the team (Rozier less so).

Calm the fck down! :D


That post was more anti-Rozier than pro-Kemba
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Post#156 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:01 am

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I think I'd rather have Kemba than Rozier + THJ + 2020 FRP...

Rozier just screams FA-overpay who looks a lot better in that Boston system than he will starting anywhere else.


Why are you guys talking this shyt? Let's just be patient and wait. These guys are not the answer. They will fck up Franks development and the chemistry of the team (Rozier less so).

Calm the fck down! :D


That post was more anti-Rozier than pro-Kemba


Do you really want either?
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Post#157 » by cgf » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:13 am

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Why are you guys talking this shyt? Let's just be patient and wait. These guys are not the answer. They will fck up Franks development and the chemistry of the team (Rozier less so).

Calm the fck down! :D


That post was more anti-Rozier than pro-Kemba


Do you really want either?


Depends on the price tag for Kemba tbh. I think this will be a playoff team next year with or without KD and Kemba is a really under-rated dude...so if we got him on a fair contract that we could move for an asset, if at any point a true A-lister wanted to join the Knicks, I wouldn’t hate it. And if we get KD, then I’d much rather have Kemba or Middleton helping form the team around KD, KP and the kids with our remaining potential cap space; than THJ + a late first in 2020 *shrug*

I’m a big Frank fan, and I want him to spend a lot of time as the “primary ball handler” this year for his development...but I don’t have any issues with pairing him up with an all star PG that he could learn from and take over for in the long run. Would set up a smooth succession for us at that position while helping the young core start taking steps.

If KP was two years younger and we could rack up another top 10 pick next year, then I’d be much more opposed to it and in favor of using our cap space to add assets this year while rebuilding for another year...but KP makes a top 10 pick unlikelyz. And if we’re gunna be a playoff team I’d rather get the kids some help and put them in a position to succeed.
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#158 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:32 am

cgf wrote:
Cookies4Life wrote:
Greenie wrote:KD ain’t built for NY.
He gets half of what we gave Melo and dude is crumbling.

No thanks.

I’m here for Klay. Klay won’t GAF.


Klay was interviewed at random a few years ago while in NYC by some news reporter asking him about the scaffolding issues. The reporter had no idea he was a pro NBA player and it was just so funny to hear his responses (you could prob find it on Youtube.) His laid back style would fit perfectly in this city and with our media. His actual game would also be perfect and I'd have no problem with the Knicks offering him the full max. He's one of the few upcoming FA's that's actually deserving of that much money. He's criminally underrated IMO.

I'd still prioritize Durant, but Klay would be an incredible coup as well.


That interview is legend :lol:

But let's be real, the first time Klay was forced to create off the dribble this fanbase would turn on him and start calling him in an H2O knock-off...


C'mon dude, you know we couldn't love him like we do Houston until he gets a career ending injury like every other star we love.

Craziest scenario is if history repeats itself, we sign both. Klay gets hurt and we hate on Durant who stays healthy yet somehow can't fulfill both players potential.

All of those things must be equal or it wouldn't be Knicks
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#159 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:37 am

cgf wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
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That post was more anti-Rozier than pro-Kemba


Do you really want either?


Depends on the price tag for Kemba tbh. I think this will be a playoff team next year with or without KD and Kemba is a really under-rated dude...so if we got him on a fair contract that we could move for an asset, if at any point a true A-lister wanted to join the Knicks, I wouldn’t hate it. And if we get KD, then I’d much rather have Kemba or Middleton helping form the team around KD, KP and the kids with our remaining potential cap space; than THJ + a late first in 2020 *shrug*

I’m a big Frank fan, and I want him to spend a lot of time as the “primary ball handler” this year for his development...but I don’t have any issues with pairing him up with an all star PG that he could learn from and take over for in the long run. Would set up a smooth succession for us at that position while helping the young core start taking steps.

If KP was two years younger and we could rack up another top 10 pick next year, then I’d be much more opposed to it and in favor of using our cap space to add assets this year while rebuilding for another year...but KP makes a top 10 pick unlikelyz. And if we’re gunna be a playoff team I’d rather get the kids some help and put them in a position to succeed.


So you would sign Kemba to a 5 year contract because I think that's what it's going to take. Maybe you're right. I'm a little gun shy of these type of moves this off season. I'm looking more towards 2020 or 2021
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Re: Lowe Post Podcast: Rachel Nichols speculates that KD will sign with Knicks in 2019 

Post#160 » by RiseOfTheEmpire » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:48 am

blanko wrote:If the warriors win easily and KD 3 peats. He will try to 4 peat, something even Mike couldnt do. If we get kyrieand we look like a winner, he may sign with us in 2020
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Lacob has 300 million reasons why he won't do this. They are going to go back to their core and shoot the dice....a 73 game winning team isn't a bad consolation prize. People aren't even sure if Green is going to get paid, but make no mistake, Durant is gone, the luxury tax implications are crazy for them and their GM said the CBA isn't structured to sustain 4 max contracts even if you have all the bird rights in the world.

Lebron with palm trees and Hollywood on one side and Durant with Broadway and skyscrapers on the other....the marketing literature writes itself.

If it weren't for Lebron demolishing his young OKC team with his Miami superteam Durant wouldn't have done his superteam payback....I wouldn't be surprised if he follows in his footsteps again and goes to a big market with a young nucleus to start his own squad with a chance for another guy to come along.

And somebody said it right...with Durant, there are no bad games. We aren't going to be tuning in like in the Melo days to see if our guy is gonna have a good night or a 6 for 22 one. With Kyrie it will be that kind of tip off every night.

How can you not want Durant and KP together in the front line....it would be amazing.
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