Fantasy Trade Thread

[Arsenal]

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if true, thats a mistake. butler could be the biggest **** in this league, but he delivers. they dont have to be all friends.

covington+fultz should be offered without a question. this beats the heat offer, they were about to accept.

Why trade for him? If he's really eyeing us (and why wouldn't he?), then just sign him next summer for free.

[the_process]

Lonzo Ball and Derrick White were the only PGs in that draft I endorsed. Not a fan of Fultz, Fox or Smith.

I could be wrong on Josh Jackson. He's certainly not a lock to be an efficient playmaker on a contender. That doesn't change the fact that Fultz was an overrated prospect whose potential should be lowered even further based on mentality and confidence issues. It will be a prove to be a waste of time trying to develop him, IMO.

McCollum is a way better player and fit than Fultz can ever hope to be, IMO. Like I said, though, we gotta wait and see if any superstar wants to come aboard first.

Not necessarily, unless the Super Star were targeting specifically plays SG. Fultz makes enough future money, that we could add CJ McCollum and still create a Max slot by renouncing Redick, Chandler, Bayless and Muscala. Whithout them the 76ers would only have about 75 million on the books (Embiid, Covington, McCollum, Shamet, Zhaire, Korkmaz) even with Simmons and Saric's cap hold.

CJ, Embiid, Cov, Simmons, Saric, Shamet, Korkmaz, Bolden, and the 4 empty roster holds total up to be just about 86.5M next year.

[the_process]

You guys still wouldn't do a Fultz for Kennard + expiring swap?

Fultz for Kennard and a protected 1st? Done.

[BigSleep333]

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Can we sticky this somewhere?

if true, thats a mistake. butler could be the biggest **** in this league, but he delivers. they dont have to be all friends.

covington+fultz should be offered without a question. this beats the heat offer, they were about to accept.

Why trade for him? If he's really eyeing us (and why wouldn't he?), then just sign him next summer for free.

we would have space for a 4th star. embiid/ben/butler + max FA

also, we could really compete for the finals this year. tough injury luck for the dubs and who knows..

[51X3RF4N]

Wow the takes in this thread are scary. I'm really happy none of you are Elton Brand right now.

There's no way I'm trading Markelle when his jumper appears fine, his defense looks solid, he appears to be in very good shape and conditioning, and he is starting to take jumpers in real games.

Just because he's not out there looking like Curry and Harden, doesn't mean he is not positively impacting the game.

If anything, I'm looking to move Covington for Butler to get an Alpha Dog out there who can take over a game, but not be a defensive liability. Someone who is a straight baller who will stare down Tatum and Brown and make them look silly. Instead of Bob the brainless Covington.

[ProcessDoctor]

Fultz was -16 tonight and got benched in the 2nd half. Positive impact my ass.

[Arsenal]

if true, thats a mistake. butler could be the biggest **** in this league, but he delivers. they dont have to be all friends.

covington+fultz should be offered without a question. this beats the heat offer, they were about to accept.

Why trade for him? If he's really eyeing us (and why wouldn't he?), then just sign him next summer for free.

we would have space for a 4th star. embiid/ben/butler + max FA

also, we could really compete for the finals this year. tough injury luck for the dubs and who knows..

We would have $25M in cap room accounting for Butler's cap hold. Not enough for a MAX FA.

[BigSleep333]

Why trade for him? If he's really eyeing us (and why wouldn't he?), then just sign him next summer for free.

we would have space for a 4th star. embiid/ben/butler + max FA

also, we could really compete for the finals this year. tough injury luck for the dubs and who knows..

We would have $25M in cap room accounting for Butler's cap hold. Not enough for a MAX FA.

wrong. around 41m. biid,dario,ben, butler, shamet, kork, bolden, zhaire make 68m on a projected salary cap of 109m

[Arsenal]

we would have space for a 4th star. embiid/ben/butler + max FA

also, we could really compete for the finals this year. tough injury luck for the dubs and who knows..

We would have $25M in cap room accounting for Butler's cap hold. Not enough for a MAX FA.

wrong. around 41m. biid,dario,ben, butler, shamet, kork, bolden, zhaire make 68m on a projected salary cap of 109m

No they make $83M, including min roster charges and our pick next year:

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=19787250075bc6aa7ed13b5198056190

Leaves us with $25M of cap like I said. Not enough for a MAX guy.

[BigSleep333]

We would have $25M in cap room accounting for Butler's cap hold. Not enough for a MAX FA.

wrong. around 41m. biid,dario,ben, butler, shamet, kork, bolden, zhaire make 68m on a projected salary cap of 109m

No they make $83M, including min roster charges and our pick next year:

http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?id=19787250075bc6aa7ed13b5198056190

Leaves us with $25M of cap like I said. Not enough for a MAX guy.

oh butlers caphold is 150%. well..even then, shouldnt be that hard to make room to make it work

[Kobblehead]

If the organization is openly dissing the way Butler is carrying himself, I don't think we're making a play for him. The fit was always a little shakey, anyway.

[ProcessDoctor]

If the organization is openly dissing the way Butler is carrying himself, I don't think we're making a play for him. The fit was always a little shakey, anyway.

That's too bad because we could use someone like him right now. A fierce, competitive shot-creator and defender.

I think the FO is waiting for a perfect fitting all-star who may never actually become available or attainable.

[Negrodamus]

I still think Delon Wright is the move for us to explore.

[51X3RF4N]

I honestly think this front office is basically looking at this as another developmental year. Give Ben and JoJo some time to learn how to play with Kelle and Landry, let the Vets like Amir, JJ, TJ, Chandler set the tone for professionalism, let Saric continue to grow into his role off the bench (eventually)...

And see if any of these young guys has more star potential than what we all think right now.

I could see them waiting for Zhaire to return at the end of the season, giving him some burn to see what he's got, and then waiting on the Lottery because this is the last year that the draft lottery means anything to the Sixers for a little while, especially if the plan is to trade the 2021 Heat pick.

Let's say the Sixers end up with the #1 overall pick from SAC.

Maybe they swing a deal including that pick plus Dario and the 2021 Miami pick for a superstar level PF?

[Kobblehead]

I still think Delon Wright is the move for us to explore.

What would be the motivation for Ujiri to move a guy he really likes to a rival he's competing with at the top end of the Eastern Conference, though?

Also, with Wright being on the last year of his deal before restricted free agency, I wouldn't want to give up picks/prospects for him.

[Negrodamus]

I still think Delon Wright is the move for us to explore.

What would be the motivation for Ujiri to move a guy he really likes to a rival he's competing with at the top end of the Eastern Conference, though?

Also, with Wright being on the last year of his deal before restricted free agency, I wouldn't want to give up picks/prospects for him.

The first point is valid. However, he's the third PG on that team, no? And for that same reason, I don't believe his value is all that high, especially in the final year of his contract.

The only reason I could see Toronto really inflating his value is if they believe his depth is essential to a Finals run.

[Kobblehead]

His value might not be high, but he's not a guy Toronto would just give away. Especially to a rival. What do we have to offer them? Ujiri probably wants a good piece in a swap. Which is something I'd consider if Wright was team-controlled.

[the_process]

Can they still extend Wright? He's coming off his rookie deal... what's the deadline for that?

The reason I ask is what if the Sixers offered Fultz for an extended Wright (3-24) and Toronto's 2022 1st round pick?

[ProcessDoctor]

If BB is really intent on developing Fultz, I still think we should make some sort of offer for Butler. Our issue is that we still have no go-to scorer. Even if Fultz develops into that player down the road, we need someone now to seriously contend. Otherwise, this is just another season of growth and 2nd-round exit.

Covington + Bayless + MIA 1st for Butler

Simmons(24)/Fultz(24)
Redick(26)/Butler(10)/Shamet(12)
Butler(24)/Chandler(24)
Saric(28)/Muscala(10)/Simmons(10)
Embiid(32)/Amir(16)

OR

Fultz + Chandler + Bayless + CHI/SAC 2nd for Butler + Teague

Simmons(24)/Teague(24)
Redick(24)/Butler(12)/Shamet(12)
Butler(20)/Covington(28)
Saric(28)/Muscala(10)/Simmons(10)
Embiid(32)/Amir(16)

[the_process]

If BB is really intent on developing Fultz, I still think we should make some sort of offer for Butler. Our issue is that we still have no go-to scorer. Even if Fultz develops into that player down the road, we need someone now to seriously contend. Otherwise, this is just another season of growth and 2nd-round exit.

Covington + Bayless + MIA 1st for Butler

Simmons(24)/Fultz(24)
Redick(26)/Butler(10)/Shamet(12)
Butler(24)/Chandler(24)
Saric(28)/Muscala(10)/Simmons(10)
Embiid(32)/Amir(16)

OR

Fultz + Chandler + Bayless + CHI/SAC 2nd for Butler + Teague

Simmons(24)/Teague(24)
Redick(24)/Butler(12)/Shamet(12)
Butler(20)/Covington(28)
Saric(28)/Muscala(10)/Simmons(10)
Embiid(32)/Amir(16)

Ultimately, that's exactly what this season is. It's just a matter of whose growth the focus should be on.