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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1961 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:39 pm

the_process wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:If BB is really intent on developing Fultz, I still think we should make some sort of offer for Butler. Our issue is that we still have no go-to scorer. Even if Fultz develops into that player down the road, we need someone now to seriously contend. Otherwise, this is just another season of growth and 2nd-round exit.

Covington + Bayless + MIA 1st for Butler

Simmons(24)/Fultz(24)
Redick(26)/Butler(10)/Shamet(12)
Butler(24)/Chandler(24)
Saric(28)/Muscala(10)/Simmons(10)
Embiid(32)/Amir(16)

OR

Fultz + Chandler + Bayless + CHI/SAC 2nd for Butler + Teague

Simmons(24)/Teague(24)
Redick(24)/Butler(12)/Shamet(12)
Butler(20)/Covington(28)
Saric(28)/Muscala(10)/Simmons(10)
Embiid(32)/Amir(16)


Ultimately, that's exactly what this season is. It's just a matter of whose growth the focus should be on.


Let's focus on continuing to develop those players who are also ready to contribute now, and add another top 15 player to the mix.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1962 » by spikeslovechild » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:29 pm

I'm not moving Fultz for a rental period. I know he isn't where we want him to be but that's awful value and if he develops he fulfills our biggest need down the line.

I'd do a deal around Covington who honestly I want gone anyways. I probably wouldn't include the Miami pick either. For me my best offer would be Smith Roco Bayless plus a protect late first. They can take it or leave it.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1963 » by SparksFly87 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:39 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:I'm not moving Fultz for a rental period. I know he isn't where we want him to be but that's awful value and if he develops he fulfills our biggest need down the line.

I'd do a deal around Covington who honestly I want gone anyways. I probably wouldn't include the Miami pick either. For me my best offer would be Smith Roco Bayless plus a protect late first. They can take it or leave it.





not including zhiare . he can most likely guard positions 1-2-3 effectively with elite athleticism . Those players are highly coveted. Dario ,Roco, bayless for Butler is what I offer.


Embiid/Johnson/ Bolden
Chandler/Muscula
Simmons/ Zhiare/ Kokamaz
butler / redick/ shamet
fultz / tj
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1964 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:20 am

According to Wolves owner Glen Taylor they are set on Trading Butler. Butler looked very, very good tonight. I think RoCo and Saric could get it done and I think Butler would win the East.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1965 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:23 am

SparksFly87 wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:I'm not moving Fultz for a rental period. I know he isn't where we want him to be but that's awful value and if he develops he fulfills our biggest need down the line.

I'd do a deal around Covington who honestly I want gone anyways. I probably wouldn't include the Miami pick either. For me my best offer would be Smith Roco Bayless plus a protect late first. They can take it or leave it.





not including zhiare . he can most likely guard positions 1-2-3 effectively with elite athleticism . Those players are highly coveted. Dario ,Roco, bayless for Butler is what I offer.


Embiid/Johnson/ Bolden
Chandler/Muscula
Simmons/ Zhiare/ Kokamaz
butler / redick/ shamet
fultz / tj

As a Wolves fan I have no interest in Bayless or Fultz (He's broken beyond repair), and very little interest in the FRP. Dario and RoCo might get it done. I see you need to send a little more salary, but Wolves aren't taking bad contracts so you have to come up with some other way than Bayless. Butler would win the East for you. Upon further review it would be hard to make this trade work without Bayless or Fultz, but they really suck.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1966 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:11 am

One very interesting thing about trading for Kemba instead of Butler is his low cap hold next summer (he's only making $12 million this year). For example, if we trade Fultz for Kemba, we would have approximately $27 million in cap space before re-signing Kemba. We could potentially sign another free agent (i.e. Butler, Middleton) before re-signing Kemba using his bird rights.

Simmons/TJ/(2nd)
Walker/Redick/Shamet
Middleton/Korkmaz/Smith
Covington/Saric/Bolden
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Post#1967 » by Kobblehead » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:12 pm

A few trade targets currently being undervalued by their teams:

Luke Kennard - 19 minutes
Malik Beasley - 12 minutes
Dillon Brooks - 6 minutes
Frank Jackson - 2 minutes
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1968 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:42 pm

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spikeslovechild wrote:I'm not moving Fultz for a rental period. I know he isn't where we want him to be but that's awful value and if he develops he fulfills our biggest need down the line.

I'd do a deal around Covington who honestly I want gone anyways. I probably wouldn't include the Miami pick either. For me my best offer would be Smith Roco Bayless plus a protect late first. They can take it or leave it.





not including zhiare . he can most likely guard positions 1-2-3 effectively with elite athleticism . Those players are highly coveted. Dario ,Roco, bayless for Butler is what I offer.


Embiid/Johnson/ Bolden
Chandler/Muscula
Simmons/ Zhiare/ Kokamaz
butler / redick/ shamet
fultz / tj

As a Wolves fan I have no interest in Bayless or Fultz (He's broken beyond repair), and very little interest in the FRP. Dario and RoCo might get it done. I see you need to send a little more salary, but Wolves aren't taking bad contracts so you have to come up with some other way than Bayless. Butler would win the East for you. Upon further review it would be hard to make this trade work without Bayless or Fultz, but they really suck.


Bayless is an expiring that would be used to match salaries. He doesnt have any value.

Roco isn't a bad contract I'm just done with his feast or famine antics on a good team if you find a way to limit him to taking wide open threes he could have value. Our CS refuses to do it. We don't have a goto guy who Roco would be taking shots away from so he jacks up contested three after contested three often early in the shot clock.
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Post#1969 » by jbent87 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:54 pm

KGdaBom wrote:According to Wolves owner Glen Taylor they are set on Trading Butler. Butler looked very, very good tonight. I think RoCo and Saric could get it done and I think Butler would win the East.


I think Butlers head would explode when it's time to play the Celtics and he sees how this team shrivels up into a ball and doesn't belong on the same court in those games.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1970 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:04 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
SparksFly87 wrote:



not including zhiare . he can most likely guard positions 1-2-3 effectively with elite athleticism . Those players are highly coveted. Dario ,Roco, bayless for Butler is what I offer.


Embiid/Johnson/ Bolden
Chandler/Muscula
Simmons/ Zhiare/ Kokamaz
butler / redick/ shamet
fultz / tj

As a Wolves fan I have no interest in Bayless or Fultz (He's broken beyond repair), and very little interest in the FRP. Dario and RoCo might get it done. I see you need to send a little more salary, but Wolves aren't taking bad contracts so you have to come up with some other way than Bayless. Butler would win the East for you. Upon further review it would be hard to make this trade work without Bayless or Fultz, but they really suck.


Bayless is an expiring that would be used to match salaries. He doesnt have any value.

Roco isn't a bad contract I'm just done with his feast or famine antics on a good team if you find a way to limit him to taking wide open threes he could have value. Our CS refuses to do it. We don't have a goto guy who Roco would be taking shots away from so he jacks up contested three after contested three often early in the shot clock.

The expiring takes away some of the sting from including him, but not all. People continue to act like since the contract is expiring it doesn't matter that it's bad. It's still bad until it expires.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1971 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:06 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:One very interesting thing about trading for Kemba instead of Butler is his low cap hold next summer (he's only making $12 million this year). For example, if we trade Fultz for Kemba, we would have approximately $27 million in cap space before re-signing Kemba. We could potentially sign another free agent (i.e. Butler, Middleton) before re-signing Kemba using his bird rights.

Simmons/TJ/(2nd)
Walker/Redick/Shamet
Middleton/Korkmaz/Smith
Covington/Saric/Bolden
Embiid/(1st)/Pasecniks

If you could trade Fultz for Kemba that would boggle my mind the gullibility of some GMs. Fultz is broken and most likely can't be repaired.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1972 » by Kobblehead » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:20 pm

KGdaBom wrote:As a Wolves fan I have no interest in Bayless or Fultz (He's broken beyond repair), and very little interest in the FRP. Dario and RoCo might get it done. I see you need to send a little more salary, but Wolves aren't taking bad contracts so you have to come up with some other way than Bayless. Butler would win the East for you. Upon further review it would be hard to make this trade work without Bayless or Fultz, but they really suck.


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Post#1973 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:25 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:As a Wolves fan I have no interest in Bayless or Fultz (He's broken beyond repair), and very little interest in the FRP. Dario and RoCo might get it done. I see you need to send a little more salary, but Wolves aren't taking bad contracts so you have to come up with some other way than Bayless. Butler would win the East for you. Upon further review it would be hard to make this trade work without Bayless or Fultz, but they really suck.


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That very well could be true. It doesn't mean it is the wisest decision. Butler didn't think out his choreographed planned meltdown very well as I'm sure it soured many potential trade partners on him.
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Post#1974 » by LloydFree » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:37 pm

Kobblehead wrote:A few trade targets currently being undervalued by their teams:

Luke Kennard - 19 minutes
Malik Beasley - 12 minutes
Dillon Brooks - 6 minutes
Frank Jackson - 2 minutes

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Post#1975 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:38 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:One very interesting thing about trading for Kemba instead of Butler is his low cap hold next summer (he's only making $12 million this year). For example, if we trade Fultz for Kemba, we would have approximately $27 million in cap space before re-signing Kemba. We could potentially sign another free agent (i.e. Butler, Middleton) before re-signing Kemba using his bird rights.

Simmons/TJ/(2nd)
Walker/Redick/Shamet
Middleton/Korkmaz/Smith
Covington/Saric/Bolden
Embiid/(1st)/Pasecniks

If you could trade Fultz for Kemba that would boggle my mind the gullibility of some GMs. Fultz is broken and most likely can't be repaired.


He’s an expiring contract, so the offers won’t be great. They could do worse. Plus, we are talking about Charlotte here.
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Post#1976 » by the_process » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:32 pm

I don't like the idea of trading for Walker. Have no interest in maxing him, which is what you would have to do if you trade for him.

I do think they need to be advertising Fultz for sale. For example, can the Sixers help facilitate a trade somewhere, not with cap but with Fultz (plus Chandler and Bayless if need be)? Get some better pieces back?
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Post#1977 » by SparksFly87 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:48 pm

i want D'lo dude is trending and is a great fit. Fultz for D'lo. Nets avoid extension for two years and develop and we get a instant fit two our two best players.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1978 » by KGdaBom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:39 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:One very interesting thing about trading for Kemba instead of Butler is his low cap hold next summer (he's only making $12 million this year). For example, if we trade Fultz for Kemba, we would have approximately $27 million in cap space before re-signing Kemba. We could potentially sign another free agent (i.e. Butler, Middleton) before re-signing Kemba using his bird rights.

Simmons/TJ/(2nd)
Walker/Redick/Shamet
Middleton/Korkmaz/Smith
Covington/Saric/Bolden
Embiid/(1st)/Pasecniks

If you could trade Fultz for Kemba that would boggle my mind the gullibility of some GMs. Fultz is broken and most likely can't be repaired.


He’s an expiring contract, so the offers won’t be great. They could do worse. Plus, we are talking about Charlotte here.

We are talking about a young guy who is proven to be one of the best players in the league. So instead of trading him for a very likely bust how about resigning him instead.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1979 » by Revived » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:03 pm

I think too early to give up on Fultz.
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Post#1980 » by Revived » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:04 pm

Just not time yet.

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