2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread

[Sactowndog]

In general almost all the rookies so far have had a similar type of impact on their games and scored anywhere from 10 to 15 points while dabbling in 4 to 7 rebounds or assists. I think overall they did pretty well for their 1st ever real regular season games and none of them looked bad or overmatched. Sexton or Bagley probably had the worst day of the group but even they weren't that bad looking in the time i seen a bit of them. I like what i see going forward from this group and the impact they make at the next level.

To be fair, Bagley played 12 minutes

Joeger doesn’t allow for much creativity. When Harry or Marvin did something Joeger didn’t like he put their butt on the bench.

Watched Phoenix and Dallas. Ayton is impressive. Doncic, I’m sorry, is atrocious defensively. He guards no one, hangs around the paint looking to collect rebounds and run out the other way.

[zonedefense]

DeAndre Ayton's opener: 18 points, 10 boards, 6 assist and a steal on 8/11 shooting and +17 p/m, against DJ.

Ridiculously good/strong showing for a rookie in his 1st game against a player of DJ's caliber. Ayton's got elite potential and i hope to see him reach it one day.

Really good game from him but DAJ was trash on defense. Not even trying to contest shots today.
Ayton has the fundamentals that modern centers miss. He knows how to get position and has some solid moves to score in the post. Midrange jumper looks good as well and with his body he has no problem to finish under the rim.

[thedarkstark]

Sitting here laughing at all the people who couldn't see how obvious it was 10 months ago Ayton was the clear #1

Doncic and JJJ may eventually be on his level, but you knew you from day 1 you were getting a 20/10 beast in the middle with Ayton.

He's going to run away with ROY.

[Duke4life831]

In general almost all the rookies so far have had a similar type of impact on their games and scored anywhere from 10 to 15 points while dabbling in 4 to 7 rebounds or assists. I think overall they did pretty well for their 1st ever real regular season games and none of them looked bad or overmatched. Sexton or Bagley probably had the worst day of the group but even they weren't that bad looking in the time i seen a bit of them. I like what i see going forward from this group and the impact they make at the next level.

To be fair, Bagley played 12 minutes

Joeger doesn’t allow for much creativity. When Harry or Marvin did something Joeger didn’t like he put their butt on the bench.

Watched Phoenix and Dallas. Ayton is impressive. Doncic, I’m sorry, is atrocious defensively. He guards no one, hangs around the paint looking to collect rebounds and run out the other way.

The amount of minutes given to Justin Jackson and Shumpert didnt make sense to me. Especially Jackson in at the end of the game over Bjelica, that was the biggest head scratcher for me.

But ya you gotta find minutes for your #2 overall pick, especially if he is having a solid night like Bagley was.

[Johnny Firpo]

Luka looked amazing before the foul trouble, and terrible after. His shot looked shot, which was a little bit surprising, but I'm not worried about that. His rebounding and passing will be consistently there, his scoring will be up and down most likely. He was also forcing it, which was another thing I did not expect from him. Oh well, it was one game. DSJ worries me though, I knew that shot was too good to be true, mostly because his misses were terrible even in preseason, when his percentages were amazing otherwise.

[3toheadmelo]

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[AussieBuck]

Bucks look to finally have a first rounder since Giannis that doesn't suck!

[Duke4life831]

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The mid range shot is just a thing of beauty.

[Sactowndog]

To be fair, Bagley played 12 minutes

Joeger doesn’t allow for much creativity. When Harry or Marvin did something Joeger didn’t like he put their butt on the bench.

Watched Phoenix and Dallas. Ayton is impressive. Doncic, I’m sorry, is atrocious defensively. He guards no one, hangs around the paint looking to collect rebounds and run out the other way.

The amount of minutes given to Justin Jackson and Shumpert didnt make sense to me. Especially Jackson in at the end of the game over Bjelica, that was the biggest head scratcher for me.

But ya you gotta find minutes for your #2 overall pick, especially if he is having a solid night like Bagley was.

Kings desperately need Bogdan back. They also need a 3 badly. Giles and Bagley are going to either have to play the 3 or earn minutes over WCS and Beli. Both of the later played well tonight.

Have to wonder why Hezonja chose to go sit on the bench in New York when the 3 spot was wide open for him in Sac.

[Duke4life831]

Joeger doesn’t allow for much creativity. When Harry or Marvin did something Joeger didn’t like he put their butt on the bench.

Watched Phoenix and Dallas. Ayton is impressive. Doncic, I’m sorry, is atrocious defensively. He guards no one, hangs around the paint looking to collect rebounds and run out the other way.

The amount of minutes given to Justin Jackson and Shumpert didnt make sense to me. Especially Jackson in at the end of the game over Bjelica, that was the biggest head scratcher for me.

But ya you gotta find minutes for your #2 overall pick, especially if he is having a solid night like Bagley was.

Kings desperately need Bogdan back. They also need a 3 badly. Giles and Bagley are going to either have to play the 3 or earn minutes over WCS and Beli. Both of the later played well tonight.

Have to wonder why Hezonja chose to go sit on the bench in New York when the 3 spot was wide open for him in Sac.

It's not really all that shocking that there is a log jam of bigs and only so many minutes to go around, so there is going to be a lot of games where a player or 2 are going to get the short end of the straw. And knowing Joeger's history, I think its a good bet Bagley is going to be on the short end a good amount this year. Very curious on how he is going to take that. Also curious on if that is the best thing or not developmental wise for Bagley.

Ya I actually think Hezonja wouldve fit in very well with you guys and wouldve had a good chance to start. Fox/Bog/Hezonja could be a solid perimeter trio, then Buddy coming off the bench.

[Kabookalu]

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Hope this guy watches a lot Steve Nash mixes to see what skills to develop in the pick and roll. He's got the passing down, though it's that in between scoring game that would be a massive boost for him. Floaters, short jumpers, those things would help a lot. He actually displayed that here, though he needs to develop those skills and perfect them.

[Book1Nation]

Ayton has potential to be a stud, but he plays way to soft and relying too much of that baby hook shot. Hope he can get out of the suns after his rookie contract where his skills can be developed.

Wtf are you talking about? Why can’t he reach his potential with the Suns, playing next to an elite SG in Booker?

[denial]

D Ayton

[BoogieTime]

Joeger doesn’t allow for much creativity. When Harry or Marvin did something Joeger didn’t like he put their butt on the bench.

Watched Phoenix and Dallas. Ayton is impressive. Doncic, I’m sorry, is atrocious defensively. He guards no one, hangs around the paint looking to collect rebounds and run out the other way.

The amount of minutes given to Justin Jackson and Shumpert didnt make sense to me. Especially Jackson in at the end of the game over Bjelica, that was the biggest head scratcher for me.

But ya you gotta find minutes for your #2 overall pick, especially if he is having a solid night like Bagley was.

Kings desperately need Bogdan back. They also need a 3 badly. Giles and Bagley are going to either have to play the 3 or earn minutes over WCS and Beli. Both of the later played well tonight.

Have to wonder why Hezonja chose to go sit on the bench in New York when the 3 spot was wide open for him in Sac.

Buddy/Bogdan will start, IMO. Buddy is a starter, IMO

[Kabookalu]

Ayton has potential to be a stud, but he plays way to soft and relying too much of that baby hook shot. Hope he can get out of the suns after his rookie contract where his skills can be developed.

I disagree that he's soft. He plays finesse, but that's not a bad thing. Not every big man has to be a bullying bruiser.

[Kobblehead]

Allonzo Trier might not have been drafted, but he already has this award wrapped up. He's going to do insane things for the Knicks this season.

Posted on Wendesday June 27th. I tried to tell you guys. Dude is special.

[ItsThatEasy]

Sitting here laughing at all the people who couldn't see how obvious it was 10 months ago Ayton was the clear #1

Doncic and JJJ may eventually be on his level, but you knew you from day 1 you were getting a 20/10 beast in the middle with Ayton.

He's going to run away with ROY.

I love Luka...I think he has the potential to be a superstar.

But Luka's non-American fans basically hijacked the entire draft process causing Ayton to be underrated and over scrutinized. He's had that jump shot since his SENIOR year of HS, but for whatever reason people chose to skip over his generational combo of athleticism and skill.

He should've dominated the draft headlines far more than Luka, we're talking a potential all time great big man here.

[Jadoogar]

In general almost all the rookies so far have had a similar type of impact on their games and scored anywhere from 10 to 15 points while dabbling in 4 to 7 rebounds or assists. I think overall they did pretty well for their 1st ever real regular season games and none of them looked bad or overmatched. Sexton or Bagley probably had the worst day of the group but even they weren't that bad looking in the time i seen a bit of them. I like what i see going forward from this group and the impact they make at the next level.

To be fair, Bagley played 12 minutes

Kings were always going to have trouble finding minutes for him when they drafted their 17th centre.
Giles only got 10 minutes.

[Capn'O]

Sitting here laughing at all the people who couldn't see how obvious it was 10 months ago Ayton was the clear #1

Doncic and JJJ may eventually be on his level, but you knew you from day 1 you were getting a 20/10 beast in the middle with Ayton.

He's going to run away with ROY.

I love Luka...I think he has the potential to be a superstar.

But Luka's non-American fans basically hijacked the entire draft process causing Ayton to be underrated and over scrutinized. He's had that jump shot since his SENIOR year of HS, but for whatever reason people chose to skip over his generational combo of athleticism and skill.

He should've dominated the draft headlines far more than Luka, we're talking a potential all time great big man here.

He's a juggernaut on O. How did his defense look last night?

[Capn'O]

Shai can still slither at this level

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