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Post #101 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:00 am

sam presti's appeal to 'fast and explosive' is going to be old and stale by the all star break. especially when westbrook is out and / or not 100%.

it's crazy that not only is our offense designed in such a rudimentary way, but our coach prefers to play guys with lower awareness and lower bbiq so long as they fit a physical profile. the grant v. patterson debate is going to be so annoying this year.

Osirus89 · Post #102 » by **Osirus89** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:00 am

Bad: Starting the season on a 2 game road trip
Worse: Having to do that without your best player
Worst: Billy Donovan's "coaching"

NaturalThunder · Post #103 » by **NaturalThunder** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:03 am

What the heck happened? We seemed to be in semi-control about midway through the 4th and we still ended up losing the 4th quarter 37-15. We were up 87-83 with about 8 minutes to go in the 4th. We got outscored by a non-playoff team, with no big time scorers, 23-5 over the last 8 minutes. We scored a whopping 5 points over the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter. This team has serious issues. FIVE!!!! points over the last 8 minutes of the 4th quarter!!!

And a combined 9/42 from the field (21%) from George and Schroder. Paul George needs to pull his head out of his ***.

spearsy23 · Post #104 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:03 am

slick_watts wrote:sam presti's appeal to 'fast and explosive' is going to be old and stale by the all star break. especially when westbrook is out and / or not 100%.

it's crazy that not only is our offense designed in such a rudimentary way, but our coach prefers to play guys with lower awareness and lower bbiq so long as they fit a physical profile. the grant v. patterson debate is going to be so annoying this year.

Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

NaturalThunder · Post #105 » by **NaturalThunder** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:04 am

spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:sam presti's appeal to 'fast and explosive' is going to be old and stale by the all star break. especially when westbrook is out and / or not 100%.

it's crazy that not only is our offense designed in such a rudimentary way, but our coach prefers to play guys with lower awareness and lower bbiq so long as they fit a physical profile. the grant v. patterson debate is going to be so annoying this year.

Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

Post #106 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:05 am

spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:sam presti's appeal to 'fast and explosive' is going to be old and stale by the all star break. especially when westbrook is out and / or not 100%.

it's crazy that not only is our offense designed in such a rudimentary way, but our coach prefers to play guys with lower awareness and lower bbiq so long as they fit a physical profile. the grant v. patterson debate is going to be so annoying this year.

Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

even with the fast breaks and stops you need outlier orb% to offset league average eFG. sam has his priorities backwards, or at least, he's stating them backwards in response to the criticisms of the roster he built.

Post #107 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:07 am

NaturalThunder wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:sam presti's appeal to 'fast and explosive' is going to be old and stale by the all star break. especially when westbrook is out and / or not 100%.

it's crazy that not only is our offense designed in such a rudimentary way, but our coach prefers to play guys with lower awareness and lower bbiq so long as they fit a physical profile. the grant v. patterson debate is going to be so annoying this year.

Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

spearsy23 · Post #108 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:11 am

Cool, and Jonas jerebko gets a game winning tip in for Golden State. I'm done with the NBA for the year

anthony00 · Post #109 » by **anthony00** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:11 am

And the overreactions are in.soon as we get russ we will win more

Old Man Game · Post #110 » by **Old Man Game** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:11 am

spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:sam presti's appeal to 'fast and explosive' is going to be old and stale by the all star break. especially when westbrook is out and / or not 100%.

it's crazy that not only is our offense designed in such a rudimentary way, but our coach prefers to play guys with lower awareness and lower bbiq so long as they fit a physical profile. the grant v. patterson debate is going to be so annoying this year.

Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

Like 1 screen dribble handoff to George, chuck a 3 that rims off or screen at the elbow for Dennis, 15 foot jumper rim off. Over and over.

anthony00 · Post #111 » by **anthony00** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:12 am

slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

It is 100% Donovan

anthony00 · Post #112 » by **anthony00** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:13 am

we have the most depressing board on realgm

Post #113 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:13 am

anthony00 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

It is 100% Donovan

why do you think a coach like donovan was hired? did you see george's comments about preferring to play without a system in place? it is definitely not 100% donovan.

Post #114 » by **bondom34** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:14 am

slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

Not really to argue but he's had 2. And the other is in Washington with the same offense.

Post #115 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:14 am

anthony00 wrote:And the overreactions are in.soon as we get russ we will win more

overreactions such as...?

keen insight. get westbrook back, and we win more. you don't say.

spearsy23 · Post #116 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 am

slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Fast and explosive looks good when you're getting stops and in transition, but you've gotta have some type of plan in the half court. What exactly is our goal on offense even?

Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

Westbrook and George aren't the first or only superstars to enjoy offensive freedom. You can design a system that leverages those gifts to make life easier on the rest of your team, see D'Antoni.

In Donovan's defense, it's difficult to design an offense when you have 4 good offensive players total.

jambalaya · Post #117 » by **jambalaya** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:15 am

Unscared money keeps betting the same way til they're broke.

Coaches with decorum but not enough tactical excellence. Not enough shooting. Too many projects. Too few & too slow corrections.

Osirus89 · Post #118 » by **Osirus89** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:16 am

Hope Russ has his cape ready because he's going to have to come out like a bat out of hell to fight out of this hole.

Hope that knee is good and rested.

Post #119 » by **slick_watts** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:17 am

bondom34 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:Dribble around, use a few ball screens, and shoot a well-contested or, at the very least, a semi-contested 15-18 footer.

Billy Donovan has to go. He's terrible.

westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

Not really to argue but he's had 2. And the other is in Washington with the same offense.

our offense under brooks was a little more nuanced but that is probably mostly to do with superior talent than anything. any hope of an offense like this producing top 5 eFG like it did annually left when kd did.

i think brooks' main advantage over donovan as a coach was keeping the guys on the rails more often.

Post #120 » by **bondom34** » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:17 am

slick_watts wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
westbrook and george have both said this is the kind of offense they prefer. george said it only a few weeks ago. this isn't about donovan-- this part of it, anyway.

what coach out there is going to impose a system on westbrook? are you being serious?

Not really to argue but he's had 2. And the other is in Washington with the same offense.

our offense under brooks was a little more nuanced but that is probably mostly to do with superior talent than anything. any hope of an offense like this producing top 5 eFG like it did annually left when kd did.

i think brooks' main advantage over donovan as a coach was keeping the guys on the rails more often.

Agree there totally. Just saying they've never had a coach who seemed to actually try to run a real offense.

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