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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2021 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:06 am

the_process wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Just an FYI. Fultz for Bridges would be a no go.

Bridges and Bender, maybe, depending on what else is necessary.

The fear is that Fultz is broken beyond repair, so the price has to be worth the risk. Honestly, we would probably prefer just to work out something for TJ McConnell.


I'm confused. Bridges straight up is a no, but Bridges with Bender is a maybe?

Sorry. Meant Daniels and Bender.


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2022 » by the_process » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:17 pm

This was proposed on the Trade Board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1759289

Sixers end is Fultz for Justin Holiday, Dragan Bender, and a protected CHI 1st.

That's an easy yes IMO.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2023 » by LloydFree » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:57 pm

the_process wrote:This was proposed on the Trade Board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1759289

Sixers end is Fultz for Justin Holiday, Dragan Bender, and a protected CHI 1st.

That's an easy yes IMO.

That's an easy yes for the 76ers, but I don't think there is any chance the Bulls would do that. They're giving up a lot for Josh Jackson, who isn't a clear fit or need.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2024 » by the_process » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:18 pm

LloydFree wrote:
the_process wrote:This was proposed on the Trade Board.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1759289

Sixers end is Fultz for Justin Holiday, Dragan Bender, and a protected CHI 1st.

That's an easy yes IMO.

That's an easy yes for the 76ers, but I don't think there is any chance the Bulls would do that. They're giving up a lot for Josh Jackson, who isn't a clear fit or need.


Was proposed by a Bulls fan, ostensibly because they want a defensive wing next to LaVine? :dontknow:
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2025 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:46 pm

Blockbuster time.

Joel Embiid, Furkan Korkmaz, and T.J. McConnell

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Karl-Anthony Towns, Keita Bates-Diop, Tyus Jones and Taj Gibson
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2026 » by cool93 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:52 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Blockbuster time.

Joel Embiid, Furkan Korkmaz, and T.J. McConnell

for

Karl-Anthony Towns, Keita Bates-Diop, Tyus Jones and Taj Gibson
Towns will never win a title as a top guy on a team. He has trash mentality and bad defence, which is critical for a center. Embiid has long ways to go but at least I can see a way were he is MVP on a championship squad.

So it's terrible.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2027 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:59 pm

cool93 wrote:bad defence

Great defender at Kentucky. Good defender in 3 of his 4 NBA seasons.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2028 » by cool93 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:03 pm

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cool93 wrote:bad defence

Great defender at Kentucky. Good defender in 3 of his 4 NBA seasons.
Nah, I don't know how did he look in Kentucky, but in NBA he showed sign of hope in 1st season and was bad on defence ever since. This Embiid - Towns swap talk is pure insanity. Lets trade Simmons for Ball while we are at it.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2029 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:15 pm

Thoughts on Joel Embiid's defense in the early going?

He's been crossed on the perimeter several times by ball handlers that switched onto him. He's been put on a couple posters, as well.

Towns: 0.4% steal percentage, 4.7% block percentage
Embiid: 0.7% steal percentage, 4.7 block percentage

I don't think you get to put Joel on a defensive pedestal during his current body of work this year. And you can't ignore the fact that Towns has been fine, defensively.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2030 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:30 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Thoughts on Joel Embiid's defense in the early going?

He's been crossed on the perimeter several times by ball handlers that switched onto him. He's been put on a couple posters, as well.

Towns: 0.4% steal percentage, 4.7% block percentage
Embiid: 0.7% steal percentage, 4.7 block percentage

I don't think you get to put Joel on a defensive pedestal during his current body of work this year. And you can't ignore the fact that Towns has been fine, defensively.

Sure you can ignore it as it's not a fact.

And this is not an argument that will end well for you.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2031 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:48 pm

I'm just trying to strip down narratives and present the facts. If people reach the same conclusions after considering, I'm fine with that.

I just think Towns is a better skillset match and a better personality match with Ben. And I think his poor defensive reputation is misleading.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2032 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:59 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I'm just trying to strip down narratives and present the facts. If people reach the same conclusions after considering, I'm fine with that.

I just think Towns is a better skillset match and a better personality match with Ben. And I think his poor defensive reputation is misleading.


I agree with you here. For all the entertainment Embiid brings, I think KAT would be better for this team. Embiid's offense is so clunky sometimes, and he takes everything so personal that it hurts the team. Even though he is THE Process, I'd trade him for KAT in a heartbeat.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2033 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:08 pm

Personally, I don't think Fultz is a great playmaking prospect and I think he would ordinarily be a terrible fit next to Simmons. That said, having Towns at the 5 allows Ben and Markelle to co-exist in the same lineup together and for us to watch how it plays out, without any spacing concerns. Joel Embiid, for as skilled as he is, does not present that benefit.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2034 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:14 pm

And that's insane.

Embiid's offensive issues are predominately due to him being miscast as the guy expected to close out games when every team with sense does that with guards/wings who aren't afraid to shoot the ball. He frankly has very few offensive issues, but the ones he does have often do flare up at the most visible times (i.e. crunch time).

He's a top 3 player in the East in terms of overall impact, but he does need a suitable foil to close out games if you all are going to contend. It's confusing to me why your management hasn't made it priority #1 to acquire one.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2035 » by BigSleep333 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:40 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:And that's insane.

Embiid's offensive issues are predominately due to him being miscast as the guy expected to close out games when every team with sense does that with guards/wings who aren't afraid to shoot the ball. He frankly has very few offensive issues, but the ones he does have often do flare up at the most visible times (i.e. crunch time).

He's a top 3 player in the East in terms of overall impact, but he does need a suitable foil to close out games if you all are going to contend. It's confusing to me why your management hasn't made it priority #1 to acquire one.


our old GM traded a boatload for markelle fultz. our current management isnt ready yet to give up on fultz. (which imo is a huge mistake if you could have someone like butler)
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2036 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:05 pm

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Crop D'Angelo Bieber out of the photo and this squad would win multiple championships. We'd have to wait a half decade on Booker, but we can get Towns RIGHT NOW.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2037 » by XDevilBoiX » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:18 pm

I rather have Embiid because he has a drive to be the best, Towns hasn’t shown he has the drive yet. I don’t want players who just settles with who they are.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2038 » by Chris76 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Personally, I don't think Fultz is a great playmaking prospect and I think he would ordinarily be a terrible fit next to Simmons. That said, having Towns at the 5 allows Ben and Markelle to co-exist in the same lineup together and for us to watch how it plays out, without any spacing concerns. Joel Embiid, for as skilled as he is, does not present that benefit.


Fultz is an excellent ball handler and passer. He played well against Detroit. Sure he is rusty, but his play making skills could be elite.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2039 » by the_process » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:20 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:And that's insane.

Embiid's offensive issues are predominately due to him being miscast as the guy expected to close out games when every team with sense does that with guards/wings who aren't afraid to shoot the ball. He frankly has very few offensive issues, but the ones he does have often do flare up at the most visible times (i.e. crunch time).

He's a top 3 player in the East in terms of overall impact, but he does need a suitable foil to close out games if you all are going to contend. It's confusing to me why your management hasn't made it priority #1 to acquire one.


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2040 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:22 pm

XDevilBoiX wrote:I rather have Embiid because he has a drive to be the best, Towns hasn’t shown he has the drive yet. I don’t want players who just settles with who they are.


If Towns wasn't driven, then how could he possibly be a 22 ppg scorer on 62% true shooting for his career at age 22?

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