Game 6: Indiana Pacers (3-2) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (0-5) - 7:30 PM ET

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[Stillwater]

As anticipated the Cavs are starting to show the improvement defensively and it's only game 6. This team will be a 500 team before the deadline if they continue the pace they are using and continue to progress in their communication and execution on the floor.
Solid effort in the first half.

[afarmenian]

As anticipated the Cavs are starting to show the improvement defensively and it's only game 6. This team will be a 500 team before the deadline if they continue the pace they are using and continue to progress in their communication and execution on the floor.
Solid effort in the first half.

[Stillwater]

As anticipated the Cavs are starting to show the improvement defensively and it's only game 6. This team will be a 500 team before the deadline if they continue the pace they are using and continue to progress in their communication and execution on the floor.
Solid effort in the first half.

So you have no ability to see the improvement congrats on your failed vision.
When the team is winning I don't expect to see you here.

[afarmenian]

As anticipated the Cavs are starting to show the improvement defensively and it's only game 6. This team will be a 500 team before the deadline if they continue the pace they are using and continue to progress in their communication and execution on the floor.
Solid effort in the first half.

So you have no ability to see the improvement congrats on your failed vision.
When the team is winning I don't expect to see you here.

You need to calm that noise down. I take no joy in seeing this team flail about but I call them like I see em. What moral victory do you see in a double point loss at home giving up almost 120? They


Stop squeaking and come correct with facts. They have the worst net rating in the league, 2nd worse point diff, where is the improvement? This team will be picking top 3 thank goodness. See you tuesday after another double digit loss.

[Stillwater]

So you have no ability to see the improvement congrats on your failed vision.
When the team is winning I don't expect to see you here.

You need to calm that noise down. I take no joy in seeing this team flail about but I call them like I see em. What moral victory do you see in a double point loss at home giving up almost 120? They


Stop squeaking and come correct with facts. They have the worst net rating in the league, 2nd worse point diff, where is the improvement? This team will be picking top 3 thank goodness. See you tuesday after another double digit loss.

Fact: the process of playing at the pace they are playing requires time before the 1st quarter results are sustainable for 4.
Fact: if you rate the teams stats and wins or losses during that process expect to be disappointed.
Fact: Nance will be the starting center once this comes together.
Fact: Clarkson is extremely undervalued going forward on this roster.
Fact : they will continue to lose until they get to the point of sustainable pace,which in no way suggests they won't get there.

[afarmenian]

So you have no ability to see the improvement congrats on your failed vision.
When the team is winning I don't expect to see you here.

You need to calm that noise down. I take no joy in seeing this team flail about but I call them like I see em. What moral victory do you see in a double point loss at home giving up almost 120? They


Stop squeaking and come correct with facts. They have the worst net rating in the league, 2nd worse point diff, where is the improvement? This team will be picking top 3 thank goodness. See you tuesday after another double digit loss.

Fact: the process of playing at the pace they are playing requires time before the 1st quarter results are sustainable for 4.
Fact: if you rate the teams stats and wins or losses during that process expect to be disappointed.
Fact: Nance will be the starting center once this comes together.
Fact: Clarkson is extremely undervalued going forward on this roster.
Fact : they will continue to lose until they get to the point of sustainable pace,which in no way suggests they won't get there.

Those are all literally just like your opinions man.

Facts and projections. You could even be right on the first point but even if that were true they cannot defend anyone thats not changing.

[Stillwater]

You need to calm that noise down. I take no joy in seeing this team flail about but I call them like I see em. What moral victory do you see in a double point loss at home giving up almost 120? They


Stop squeaking and come correct with facts. They have the worst net rating in the league, 2nd worse point diff, where is the improvement? This team will be picking top 3 thank goodness. See you tuesday after another double digit loss.

Fact: the process of playing at the pace they are playing requires time before the 1st quarter results are sustainable for 4.
Fact: if you rate the teams stats and wins or losses during that process expect to be disappointed.
Fact: Nance will be the starting center once this comes together.
Fact: Clarkson is extremely undervalued going forward on this roster.
Fact : they will continue to lose until they get to the point of sustainable pace,which in no way suggests they won't get there.

Those are all literally just like your opinions man.

Facts and projections. You could even be right on the first point but even if that were true they cannot defend anyone thats not changing.

No all of those points are facts not my opinion.
Here is my opinion: You are too pessimistic when complaining about not having immediate success as if that was ever possible with the radical system change which you and many others seem to be blind too recognizing is the sole reason for being 0-6 . It is not because they are not talented enough or poorly coached etc...I believe they can be a winning team this season once they reach that pace consistently which there is no reason...none to think they can't barring severe injuries, which I guess for some of you would be the hope if it means getting a high draft pick even though it looks to be a terrible draft class.

[afarmenian]

Fact: the process of playing at the pace they are playing requires time before the 1st quarter results are sustainable for 4.
Fact: if you rate the teams stats and wins or losses during that process expect to be disappointed.
Fact: Nance will be the starting center once this comes together.
Fact: Clarkson is extremely undervalued going forward on this roster.
Fact : they will continue to lose until they get to the point of sustainable pace,which in no way suggests they won't get there.

Those are all literally just like your opinions man.

Facts and projections. You could even be right on the first point but even if that were true they cannot defend anyone thats not changing.

No all of those points are facts not my opinion.
Here is my opinion: You are too pessimistic when complaining about not having immediate success as if that was ever possible with the radical system change which you and many others seem to be blind too recognizing is the sole reason for being 0-6 . It is not because they are not talented enough or poorly coached etc...I believe they can be a winning team this season once they reach that pace consistently which there is no reason...none to think they can't barring severe injuries, which I guess for some of you would be the hope if it means getting a high draft pick even though it looks to be a terrible draft class.

Guess Lue forgot to inform Dan of his master pace plan.

[Stillwater]

Those are all literally just like your opinions man.

Facts and projections. You could even be right on the first point but even if that were true they cannot defend anyone thats not changing.

No all of those points are facts not my opinion.
Here is my opinion: You are too pessimistic when complaining about not having immediate success as if that was ever possible with the radical system change which you and many others seem to be blind too recognizing is the sole reason for being 0-6 . It is not because they are not talented enough or poorly coached etc...I believe they can be a winning team this season once they reach that pace consistently which there is no reason...none to think they can't barring severe injuries, which I guess for some of you would be the hope if it means getting a high draft pick even though it looks to be a terrible draft class.

Guess Lue forgot to inform Dan of his master pace plan.

If this firing means the org has as little confidence in Lue's new system as you and many others then your wish for a lottery pick in one of the weakest drafts since 13 is inevitable. Too me it is way to soon to forfeit the process that was in the very early stages and already showing signs of fruition.
I'm honestly disgusted at this move, no that I think Lue is a great coach or anything,but because he had the balls to try to implement a system that he knew would be difficult and knew would be scrutinized until it worked consistently but was the best chance this roster had to win as the season progressed.
At this point unless for some odd reason the plan is to continue the pace under Drew only with different rotations ( which in some cases could prove better than Lue's) than they are clearly deciding here to go full tank even if they don't realize it by this move.