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Re: Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters 

Post#61 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:15 pm

RalphSampsonJr wrote:Have you guys seen Milsap this season? He looks awful. Yea yea its early. We cant take on Milsap anyway the dude makes 30 mil. We cant have 4 not very good players all making 25+ mil a year

He’s got a team option so he’s basically an expring. In the original trade that’s why he was sent to Washington since they likely want to stay under the cap, especially if they extend Oubre. That’s why Denver is adding on a frp. It’s early an I expect him to improve, but porter has been bad this year too. I think the original deal was a little light for Washington but not bad.
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Post#62 » by RalphSampsonJr » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:26 pm

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RalphSampsonJr wrote:Have you guys seen Milsap this season? He looks awful. Yea yea its early. We cant take on Milsap anyway the dude makes 30 mil. We cant have 4 not very good players all making 25+ mil a year

He’s got a team option so he’s basically an expriing. In the original trade that’s why he was sent to Washington since they likely want to stay under the cap, especially if they extend Oubre. That’s why Denver is adding on a frp. It’s early an I expect him to improve, but porter has been bad this year too. I think the original deal was a little light for Washington but not bad.


Sounds like the wiz may have to blow it up. If the deal was mid season and grant still looked like this it would be awesome. I didnt realise Milsap had a team option. I think the 4 will need to be upgraded this season at some point.

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Post#63 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:27 pm

I thought he was making 20,000,000, thirty makes it almost impossible.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#64 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:22 am

What about Bogdan Bogdanovic once he gets healthy? Hield and Bogdon seem a little redundant.
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Post#65 » by Pillendreher » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:13 pm

Windhorst said on his last podast that the Cavs fired Lue because they didn't want to play Kyle Korver at all, yet Lue put him back in the rotation. This leads me to believe you can probably trade for him with a 2nd rounder. You'd have to give up close to 75 % of the Melo TPE to get him though (without adding either Patterson or Abrines, which would defeat the purpose of getting more shooting). Maybe they buy him out.
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Post#66 » by spearsy23 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:06 pm

Knrstz wrote:What about Bogdan Bogdanovic once he gets healthy? Hield and Bogdon seem a little redundant.

I'm pretty sure they're really high on him, and he can play the 3. Skill set wise I think he's a better playmaker than hield and does more with the ball.

Also, what could we give them?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#67 » by Dn4sty » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:59 pm

Several people have mentioned not having a center next year if they trade Adams this year.

I don’t think that necessarily is the case.

Obviously they could attempt to re-sign Nerlens but even if not they can move Schroder for a center and sign a backup point guard with Tax MLE.
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Post#68 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:47 am

Dn4sty wrote:Obviously they could attempt to re-sign Nerlens but even if not they can move Schroder for a center and sign a backup point guard with Tax MLE.


What center are they going to get for Schroder? Biyombo? Remember Schroder has NEGATIVE trade value. Atlanta paid $25.5M, to Melo, just so they could get rid of Schroder!
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Post#69 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:42 am

It would be nice if we didn’t have to wait until the deadline for something to happen.
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Post#70 » by spearsy23 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:54 am

Knrstz wrote:It would be nice if we didn’t have to wait until the deadline for something to happen.

Aka who is Randy Foye
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Post#71 » by slick_watts » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:00 am

don't forget repeater tax. even adding $2 million in salary is like adding almost $10 million after tax. trading adams for porter (for example) straight up would add $30 million to this year's tax bill after porter's trade kicker. taking kyle korver into the tpe would have a similar effect.
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Post#72 » by bondom34 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:01 am

Cavs are looking to move Korver it seems, or at least he wants to be gone. Forget which but he's available.
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Post#73 » by Dn4sty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:07 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:Obviously they could attempt to re-sign Nerlens but even if not they can move Schroder for a center and sign a backup point guard with Tax MLE.


What center are they going to get for Schroder? Biyombo? Remember Schroder has NEGATIVE trade value. Atlanta paid $25.5M, to Melo, just so they could get rid of Schroder!


Denver would likely move on from Plumlee. That’s just off the top of my head
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Post#74 » by Dn4sty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:08 am

bondom34 wrote:Cavs are looking to move Korver it seems, or at least he wants to be gone. Forget which but he's available.


I love the idea of Korver (knockdown shooter who has legit playoff experience).

But something tells me he would suck in OKCs system. He would provide unbelievable shot gravity though
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Post#75 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:16 am

Dn4sty wrote:Denver would likely move on from Plumlee. That’s just off the top of my head


Denver likes defense so why would they want Schorder? You have to find a team that would actually want the player or be trading a worse contract. Are you suggesting that Atlanta would have rather paid Melo $25.5M to buy him out than trade for Plumlee's expiring $13M contract? You are ignoring the fact that best offer Atlanta got to GIVE away Schroder was from OKC. Unless you think Atlanta just wanted to burn money they didn't need to.
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Post#76 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:17 am

Dn4sty wrote:I love the idea of Korver (knockdown shooter who has legit playoff experience).

But something tells me he would suck in OKCs system. He would provide unbelievable shot gravity though


Korver is lacking in athleticism and doesn't shoot step back 16 footers. Presti is not interested in.
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Post#77 » by Dn4sty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:24 am

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Dn4sty wrote:Denver would likely move on from Plumlee. That’s just off the top of my head


Denver likes defense so why would they want Schorder? You have to find a team that would actually want the player or be trading a worse contract. Are you suggesting that Atlanta would have rather paid Melo $25.5M to buy him out than trade for Plumlee's expiring $13M contract? You are ignoring the fact that best offer Atlanta got to GIVE away Schroder was from OKC. Unless you think Atlanta just wanted to burn money they didn't need to.


Not sure I want to keep responding to this but a handful of games doesn’t suddenly turn Nuggets into some defensive powerhouse.
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Post#78 » by spearsy23 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:25 am

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Dn4sty wrote:Denver would likely move on from Plumlee. That’s just off the top of my head


Denver likes defense so why would they want Schorder? You have to find a team that would actually want the player or be trading a worse contract. Are you suggesting that Atlanta would have rather paid Melo $25.5M to buy him out than trade for Plumlee's expiring $13M contract? You are ignoring the fact that best offer Atlanta got to GIVE away Schroder was from OKC. Unless you think Atlanta just wanted to burn money they didn't need to.

Since when does Denver like defense?
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Post#79 » by Kizz Fastfists » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:31 am

spearsy23 wrote:Since when does Denver like defense?


They made an effort to improve their defense this off-season. Although, I did forget they brought in Isaiah Thomas to come off the bench when hen gets healthy, which would probably be their biggest reason not for wanting Schroder.
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Post#80 » by Dn4sty » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:42 am

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spearsy23 wrote:Since when does Denver like defense?


They made an effort to improve their defense this off-season. Although, I did forget they brought in Isaiah Thomas to come off the bench when hen gets healthy, which would probably be their biggest reason not for wanting Schroder.


Ok I gotta respond at least once more. In my original hypothetical Schroder gets traded NEXT summer to replenish the depth vacated by acquiring a center on an expiring (maybe Dedmon).

Yet in your response you quote IT as the reason why the Nuggets wouldn’t want Schroder, although the point I was making would be that a deal would look like this:


1. Adams and filler for really talented wing and filler (this filler would have to af least bring back a center that can play solid rotation minutes.

2. Trade Schroder NEXT summer to replenish center depth (hypothetical of Plumlee). This assumes that OKC will be unable to afford Noel.

3. Find a cheaper backup point guard next summer

In this scenario IT WILL NOT be on the Nuggets next summer.

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