Game 7: Spurs (4-2) @ Suns (1-5) 7:30pm (10:30 ET)

[darealjuice]

I'm a little over the top on Ayton, but it because he has a chance to be great... and he is on the SUNS! God-given physique and skills, but no heart.

If the Suns players do read this board, I would hope our posts and feedback fires them up and motivates them to get better.

Nothing wrong with a little tough love...

I don't mean you or anyone specifically, just for the record. I don't see much feedback here though. Feedback is discussing ways to correct issues, not just **** on them for everything they do. I don't think many people would get motivated by their own fans constantly telling them to grow balls, calling them busts every other post, or talking about how they wish we drafted nearly every other player.

Bumps in the road his rookie year won't stop him from being great. Everyone knew defense was going to be an issue, and those instincts don't develop overnight. He's averaging 17/10/3 with the best advanced stats of any rookie, but you'd think he was awful if you read the posts here.

Agreed for the most part. I just get so frustrated when I watch a 7.1 250lb really talented basketball player not try.

I guess my feedback would be to 1) box out 2) block a shot once in a while 3) don't let your man back you down like you weigh 110lbs 4) hustle 5) be more defensively aware on the PnR 6) jump on occasion 7) maybe try backing your man down on offense 8) don't complain or whine 9) initiate contact 10) embrace contact and your CENTER role that you will have for your entire career. 11) don't be soft.

I'm not a basketball expert and never played outside of recreational college pick up games, so this will be the extent of my feedback/coaching. Let's hope Ayton reads this forum .

I think he tries, or at least he always seems gassed by the end of games. I think he's a step slow because his feel for the game isn't as far along as the guys that have been playing since they were kids. Luka Doncic was already playing professionally when Ayton picked up basketball. Experience, good coaching, and film are going to be huge in developing Ayton on the defensive end. It's encouraging that he's mostly looked the part on offense and is a better passer than expected though.

You're spot on though. His rim protection as a whole needs to improve. Too much standing and watching with his hands down.

[sunsbg]

Jesus I hope none of the Suns players read this board. Good way to kill their confidence.

Yeah I used to think Bender, Chriss and Warren might. For some reason I can't see Jackson and Ayton reading it though.

Now they can't even read. This is the negativity we are talking about.

[bwgood77]

Jesus I hope none of the Suns players read this board. Good way to kill their confidence.

Yeah I used to think Bender, Chriss and Warren might. For some reason I can't see Jackson and Ayton reading it though.

Now they can't even read. This is the negativity we are talking about.

I just think they are the type to not care what others think where the others could be more sensitive about that stuff.

[sunsbg]

Yeah I used to think Bender, Chriss and Warren might. For some reason I can't see Jackson and Ayton reading it though.

Now they can't even read. This is the negativity we are talking about.

I just think they are the type to not care what others think where the others could be more sensitive about that stuff.

Yeah, I got it. I hope it was clear I'm kidding.

Doesn't Deandre have an Instagram account, if so maybe he is not far away from lurking on a message board too. I hope not though.

[RaisingArizona]

This is nothing compared to what professional athletes see on social media. I don't think anyone is being intentionally mean towards anyone. Just voicing opinions.

[Revived]

Jesus I hope none of the Suns players read this board. Good way to kill their confidence.

Yeah I used to think Bender, Chriss and Warren might. For some reason I can't see Jackson and Ayton reading it though.

Eh, these guys have a LOT worse said to them on their social media accounts than anything on RealGM or any other forum. Both Chriss and Bender have had people comment on their instagram photos saying something like “I don’t blame you for the Suns sucking....I blame your mother for not swallowing” etc. Bender has tons and tons of racist stuff on all his pages and how he should’ve chose soccer instead of basketball. I’ve reported many of these comments but I don’t even think Instagram did anything about it.

Besides, I’d hope professional athletes don’t get their confidence wavering from social media comments anyway.

[bwgood77]

Jesus I hope none of the Suns players read this board. Good way to kill their confidence.

Yeah I used to think Bender, Chriss and Warren might. For some reason I can't see Jackson and Ayton reading it though.

Eh, these guys have a LOT worse said to them on their social media accounts than anything on RealGM or any other forum. Both Chriss and Bender have had people comment on their instagram photos saying something like “I don’t blame you for the Suns sucking....I blame your mother for not swallowing” etc. Bender has tons and tons of racist stuff on all his pages and how he should’ve chose soccer instead of basketball. I’ve reported many of these comments but I don’t even think Instagram did anything about it.

Besides, I’d hope professional athletes don’t get their confidence wavering from social media comments anyway.

Most of their social media stuff is positive though from fans from what I've seen. These guys have gotten ripped to pieces around here.

[Revived]

Yeah I used to think Bender, Chriss and Warren might. For some reason I can't see Jackson and Ayton reading it though.

Eh, these guys have a LOT worse said to them on their social media accounts than anything on RealGM or any other forum. Both Chriss and Bender have had people comment on their instagram photos saying something like “I don’t blame you for the Suns sucking....I blame your mother for not swallowing” etc. Bender has tons and tons of racist stuff on all his pages and how he should’ve chose soccer instead of basketball. I’ve reported many of these comments but I don’t even think Instagram did anything about it.

Besides, I’d hope professional athletes don’t get their confidence wavering from social media comments anyway.

Most of their social media stuff is positive though from fans from what I've seen. These guys have gotten ripped to pieces around here.

The worst that’s said about any of these guys here is they are a bust or they should be traded etc. On social media, these guys and their families are attacked and there’s just personal insults flying around everywhere. I’d say that’s worse than anyone being critical of them on just basketball issues.

And that goes for all athletes, even LeBron, Curry, Durant etc get tons and tons of just pure vulgar comments.

I think the players need to make a commitment to
Improving in order to silent the fans. In Jackson’s case, it hurts him even more that other players selected around the same range of his draft are outplaying him completely while he’s regressed from a mediocre rookie season.

Being statistically the fourth/fifth worst player in the NBA will get fans being critical and that can be chalked up fandom.

[bwgood77]

Eh, these guys have a LOT worse said to them on their social media accounts than anything on RealGM or any other forum. Both Chriss and Bender have had people comment on their instagram photos saying something like “I don’t blame you for the Suns sucking....I blame your mother for not swallowing” etc. Bender has tons and tons of racist stuff on all his pages and how he should’ve chose soccer instead of basketball. I’ve reported many of these comments but I don’t even think Instagram did anything about it.

Besides, I’d hope professional athletes don’t get their confidence wavering from social media comments anyway.

Most of their social media stuff is positive though from fans from what I've seen. These guys have gotten ripped to pieces around here.

The worst that’s said about any of these guys here is they are a bust or they should be traded etc. On social media, these guys and their families are attacked and there’s just personal insults flying around everywhere. I’d say that’s worse than anyone being critical of them on just basketball issues.

And that goes for all athletes, even LeBron, Curry, Durant etc get tons and tons of just pure vulgar comments.

I think the players need to make a commitment to
Improving in order to silent the fans. In Jackson’s case, it hurts him even more that other players selected around the same range of his draft are outplaying him completely while he’s regressed from a mediocre rookie season.

Being statistically the fourth/fifth worst player in the NBA will get fans being critical and that can be chalked up fandom.

Maybe, but when people talk about that type of stuff, I think it's easier to tune it out and ignore because it's just internet trolls. Here there are people talking about how bad they are in their career at a young age, based on games and stuff. I think that would bother me more.