2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll)
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2nd round guys I like : Jalen Hudson outta Florida, Tyus Battle outta Syracus, Josh Reaves Penn State
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. 
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:About Zion... How do I say this without offending people. Oh thats right I love offending people.
Fat...I think Zion, with all of his athletic accolades..will get fat in the NBA.
For some reason I feel like people are enamoured with big guys like that who can jump but do nothing else. Julius Randle, Anthony Bennett ring a bell. I think hes a trap. I do not trust his game,translating to the pros.
Further more, we have AG, JI, and Bamba. I'm,currently on the Reddish train. A smooth SCORER with good vision is a starter for me. But its way too early,to tell.
EDIT: I meant to include RJ Barrett as well. I love his game
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I thought Zion was another Bennett but you watch him play and he can handle the ball and create off the dribble and is very quick for a dude so big. He reminds me of Larry Johnson or even Barkley who was very athletic early on in his career. We'll see how he does when they get into ACC play and on into March Madness against quality teams but he has skills that a lot of big dudes don't have.
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magicman112 wrote:I thought Zion was another Bennett but you watch him play and he can handle the ball and create off the dribble and is very quick for a dude so big. He reminds me of Larry Johnson or even Barkley who was very athletic early on in his career. We'll see how he does when they get into ACC play and on into March Madness against quality teams but he has skills that a lot of big dudes don't have.
I think he's definitely more athletic and quite a bit more skilled than Bennett.
But that doesn't change the fact Zion appears like he'll almost have to play C offensively in the NBA unless he expands his range. Problem is, he almost certainly can't be a center defensively with his lack of length.
He can succeed in the NBA, but he'll need a creative coach.
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I just dont trust his body type or his type of game transitioning. There are just bigger needs than undersized forward who cant shoot.OrlChamps2030 wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:About Zion... How do I say this without offending people. Oh thats right I love offending people.
Fat...I think Zion, with all of his athletic accolades..will get fat in the NBA.
For some reason I feel like people are enamoured with big guys like that who can jump but do nothing else. Julius Randle, Anthony Bennett ring a bell. I think hes a trap. I do not trust his game,translating to the pros.
Further more, we have AG, JI, and Bamba. I'm,currently on the Reddish train. A smooth SCORER with good vision is a starter for me. But its way too early,to tell.
EDIT: I meant to include RJ Barrett as well. I love his game
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I agree Barrett and Reddish are the obvious “fits” but if Zion displays point forward ability (Who knows if we see it, apparently he’s destroying practice) he is an exceptional prospect
Of course that means we're drafting Nassir LIttle. Combo forward with long arms who cant shoot...Perfect fit.
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RJ Barrett is the obvious prize. But I think Quentin Grimes crashes the party by the end of the year too, at least for our team. Besides the Duke guys, Grimes is the player I'm most interested in watching. I'm hoping Little can show some off-the-dribble game. Bol Bol is going to be a problem too. I have a feeling he propels himself into a top 5 conversation.
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Def Swami wrote:RJ Barrett is the obvious prize. But I think Quentin Grimes crashes the party by the end of the year too, at least for our team. Besides the Duke guys, Grimes is the player I'm most interested in watching. I'm hoping Little can show some off-the-dribble game. Bol Bol is going to be a problem too. I have a feeling he propels himself into a top 5 conversation.
The good news for the Magic is that I think it's possible that the 10 best players in this draft are all non-centers. The draft isn't really loaded with centers at all which is a great thing for the Magic.
Beyond the Duke kids, I really want to see how Grimes, Langford, Morant and Garland play as well.
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You say that jokingly but I wouldnt in the least bit be surprised which is concerning.
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magicman112 wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:About Zion... How do I say this without offending people. Oh thats right I love offending people.
Fat...I think Zion, with all of his athletic accolades..will get fat in the NBA.
For some reason I feel like people are enamoured with big guys like that who can jump but do nothing else. Julius Randle, Anthony Bennett ring a bell. I think hes a trap. I do not trust his game,translating to the pros.
Further more, we have AG, JI, and Bamba. I'm,currently on the Reddish train. A smooth SCORER with good vision is a starter for me. But its way too early,to tell.
EDIT: I meant to include RJ Barrett as well. I love his game
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I thought Zion was another Bennett but you watch him play and he can handle the ball and create off the dribble and is very quick for a dude so big. He reminds me of Larry Johnson or even Barkley who was very athletic early on in his career. We'll see how he does when they get into ACC play and on into March Madness against quality teams but he has skills that a lot of big dudes don't have.
Ok but those are the exact same comps Bennett and Randle received.
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:magicman112 wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:About Zion... How do I say this without offending people. Oh thats right I love offending people.
Fat...I think Zion, with all of his athletic accolades..will get fat in the NBA.
For some reason I feel like people are enamoured with big guys like that who can jump but do nothing else. Julius Randle, Anthony Bennett ring a bell. I think hes a trap. I do not trust his game,translating to the pros.
Further more, we have AG, JI, and Bamba. I'm,currently on the Reddish train. A smooth SCORER with good vision is a starter for me. But its way too early,to tell.
EDIT: I meant to include RJ Barrett as well. I love his game
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I thought Zion was another Bennett but you watch him play and he can handle the ball and create off the dribble and is very quick for a dude so big. He reminds me of Larry Johnson or even Barkley who was very athletic early on in his career. We'll see how he does when they get into ACC play and on into March Madness against quality teams but he has skills that a lot of big dudes don't have.
Ok but those are the exact same comps Bennett and Randle received.
Yeah... No.
Perhaps you could use Bennett as a comp if the goal is to sh*t on Williamson, but Randle isn't comparable on any level. You are comparing one of the most explosive athletes on the planet to a guy that was criticized for being a big that played below the rim in college.
There are a lot of questions about Williamson's game that remain unanswered at this point, but his combination of size and athleticism are unprecedented and he actually has some legitimate basketball skills to go along with it. He has Gordon's explosive leaping ability in a 270 lb package. He can create with his dribble and has Ayton's touch around the basket.
Given Duke's personnel, I expect that Williamson will be used as a conventional big at the college level, but I want to see how he defends on the perimeter and how well he uses his dribble to break down a defense and create for teammates. If he can do those things, he is the best prospect in the draft.
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Zion is athletic marvel even by nba standards.
I'm just not sure what he will or what he can play in nba.
I'm just not sure what he will or what he can play in nba.
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Xatticus wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:magicman112 wrote:
I thought Zion was another Bennett but you watch him play and he can handle the ball and create off the dribble and is very quick for a dude so big. He reminds me of Larry Johnson or even Barkley who was very athletic early on in his career. We'll see how he does when they get into ACC play and on into March Madness against quality teams but he has skills that a lot of big dudes don't have.
Ok but those are the exact same comps Bennett and Randle received.
Yeah... No.
Perhaps you could use Bennett as a comp if the goal is to sh*t on Williamson, but Randle isn't comparable on any level. You are comparing one of the most explosive athletes on the planet to a guy that was criticized for being a big that played below the rim in college.
There are a lot of questions about Williamson's game that remain unanswered at this point, but his combination of size and athleticism are unprecedented and he actually has some legitimate basketball skills to go along with it. He has Gordon's explosive leaping ability in a 270 lb package. He can create with his dribble and has Ayton's touch around the basket.
Given Duke's personnel, I expect that Williamson will be used as a conventional big at the college level, but I want to see how he defends on the perimeter and how well he uses his dribble to break down a defense and create for teammates. If he can do those things, he is the best prospect in the draft.
He's in no planet the best prospect in this draft. He wont defend on the perimeter and he wont be able to defend conventional bigs. Julius Randle 2.0, Bennett worst case. If by size you mean girth then yeah..Definitely unprecedented.
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:Xatticus wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Ok but those are the exact same comps Bennett and Randle received.
Yeah... No.
Perhaps you could use Bennett as a comp if the goal is to sh*t on Williamson, but Randle isn't comparable on any level. You are comparing one of the most explosive athletes on the planet to a guy that was criticized for being a big that played below the rim in college.
There are a lot of questions about Williamson's game that remain unanswered at this point, but his combination of size and athleticism are unprecedented and he actually has some legitimate basketball skills to go along with it. He has Gordon's explosive leaping ability in a 270 lb package. He can create with his dribble and has Ayton's touch around the basket.
Given Duke's personnel, I expect that Williamson will be used as a conventional big at the college level, but I want to see how he defends on the perimeter and how well he uses his dribble to break down a defense and create for teammates. If he can do those things, he is the best prospect in the draft.
He's in no planet the best prospect in this draft. He wont defend on the perimeter and he wont be able to defend conventional bigs. Julius Randle 2.0, Bennett worst case. If by size you mean girth then yeah..Definitely unprecedented.
You've either never watched Randle or Williamson (or both) if you are comparing the two.
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Zion is not my pick but I'm not betting on that guy busting.
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I didn't anticipate us being in the running for RJ Barrett, but given how bad the team looks without any end in sight, here we are.
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Can RJ Barrett shoot? His free throw percentage suggests room for improvement at the very least.
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npiper17 wrote:Can RJ Barrett shoot? His free throw percentage suggests room for improvement at the very least.
His shot is a bit sketchy. It's his drive and motor that have made him the top prospect at this point. His skill set really isn't exceptional. I'm not yet convinced that he isn't just a bigger version of Marcus Smart or Collin Sexton, though that has the potential to be a pretty good player.
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Xatticus wrote:npiper17 wrote:Can RJ Barrett shoot? His free throw percentage suggests room for improvement at the very least.
His shot is a bit sketchy. It's his drive and motor that have made him the top prospect at this point. His skill set really isn't exceptional. I'm not yet convinced that he isn't just a bigger version of Marcus Smart or Collin Sexton, though that has the potential to be a pretty good player.
Thanks for the input. I need to read up on this draft (wasn’t expecting to have to do that this early but there you go).
It’s interesting that Barrett is projected number 1 if he’s the bigger Smart / Sexton-type that you describe.
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npiper17 wrote:Xatticus wrote:npiper17 wrote:Can RJ Barrett shoot? His free throw percentage suggests room for improvement at the very least.
His shot is a bit sketchy. It's his drive and motor that have made him the top prospect at this point. His skill set really isn't exceptional. I'm not yet convinced that he isn't just a bigger version of Marcus Smart or Collin Sexton, though that has the potential to be a pretty good player.
Thanks for the input. I need to read up on this draft (wasn’t expecting to have to do that this early but there you go).
It’s interesting that Barrett is projected number 1 if he’s the bigger Smart / Sexton-type that you describe.
I would say Barrett is kind of like a Derozen/ Tmac-lite in comparison.










