Young core all star potential

[dockingsched]

Anyone here think any of these young players is destined to become a multiple time all star. Just don’t see it in any of them, am I the only one?

Just too many holes in each of their games. Not saying trade all of em, but I think it would be best to adjust expectations.

[indilakeshow]

100% agreed

[kblo247]

Kuzma is going to get one. NArt never was going to be. Ingram and Ball need to go out east, and even then I feel Ingram is a one timer based on play and Zo maybe makes 2-3 based off votes and his pops campaigning.

[Landsberger]

Anyone here think any of these young players is destined to become a multiple time all star. Just don’t see it in any of them, am I the only one?

Just too many holes in each of their games. Not saying trade all of em, but I think it would be best to adjust expectations.

I think it's early to say but I'd say the only All Star games in their future are the "hanger on" variety.

I think Kuzma is in a the best position of all of them and I don't think he's an All Star. His role is maximizing his talent. Can't say the same for Ingram who we seem to think is a closer or primary scorer. Ball has the most holes and the most ground to make up.

I'll reserve my final thoughts until we clear Christmas. You typically don't see the entire player until about 1/2 the way through year 2 or so.

[Japago]

Anyone here think any of these young players is destined to become a multiple time all star. Just don’t see it in any of them, am I the only one?

Just too many holes in each of their games. Not saying trade all of em, but I think it would be best to adjust expectations.

100 % agreed. It's nuts how many Laker fans swear by them and don't want them traded for anybody.

I actually think Ball has the most upside of any of the young guys. He actually has elite skills in his defense and play-making. Nobody else does, IMO. Of course, he also has the biggest flaws. And, those flaws will probably end up preventing him from becoming a consistent all-star level player.

[zimpy27]

Ingram would if on ball for a bottom team

[Ugly0598]

Ball has potential of being maybe a Mike Conley-ish type of all-star. I'm not seeing other than above average at best with Ingram. Oddly enough Kuzma is looking like the best out of the 3.

[myersia]

None will be allstars. All have potential to be good role players. All should be considered tradeable. I’d want to keep Kuzma the most


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[Slava]

I'd be very surprised if Lonzo doesn't make an all star team. BI is still a high variance prospect for me. Kuz & Hart will be high level role players, Kuz reminds me a lot of Lou Will as instant offense.

[stan francisco]

Too early to say with Ball and Ingram who are still very young. Kobe’s season three was his first real consistent season.

Ingram should show us signs of if he has that potential in him, this season. I think it’s too early to say even for him just yet.

Hart? I doubt it but wouldn’t be shocked if he did one year. If he develops a 40% three. Kuzma might get a few appearances when we peak in a few years.

[Spens1]

Ingram really should given his age and ability. The rest, well its a bit questionable. Ball has the potential to be one of the best P.G's in the league (even if he doesn't put up more than 15PPG, he'll do so many things else to make up for it).

[dAdo dA dEvil]

Kuz looks good the most because he came in the league as most NBA ready. Maybe he'll be a borderline all star or might even make it at least once. Hart showed a lot of improvement and maybe had his confidence on a high level after winning the summer league MVP but I see him as a starter at best or a very solid role player and a very little chance to be an all star. Both Zo and Ingram are younger and have more flaws but they are the more interesting.

Zo with his solid D, court vision, rebounding and at 6'6" as a point should be a match up problem for the PGs inthe league. We know that his weakness is his shooting form. If he can be develop a solid 3 point shooting and perimeter game he can be an all star. Shooting will open up his game. That's what he needs to work on.

Ingram, like Zo, needs to improve his shooting. It will do much for him also. At 3, Ingram is a slasher but now we are using him at 2 so he now has more height and length advantage. He needs to learn how to use this advantages as a weapon. Learn how to position and develop that consistent jumper because he can easily shoot over smaller guards. (Go to Kobe and learn that fade away and post moves). The way we use Ingram right now as I see is we are developing him to be the closer. Once he become good at it I see him being an all star.

[Laker_Kid]

Kuz is besting them all atm. his offensive arsenal is just miles ahead and he's been competent on defense. if he can consistently score 30+ at will, he'll be carmelo anthony.

BI SHOULD be our guy but he' still inconsistent, understandably, because he's still young

Lonzo can be an all-star if he can develop an offensive game, but his three pointers is inconsistent, Rondo - who is the definition of a pass first point guard - is more aggressive than him in scoring, and he doesn't even know what a floater is.

Hart is a bonafide starter material, and at his draft position, i'll be glad to take that. he is outplaying a former #8 pick for crying out loud.

[-Spyda-]

Honestly ?
No one..

[milesfides]

Lonzo JUST turned 21 last week, and he's averaging 13, 7, and 6 per 36. He's shooting 46% overall and 41% from three. If his shot and health holds up, not only will he be an all-star, I think he'll have a chance to be one of the best point guards ever.

Kuzma is already offensively an all-star. The center experiment has messed up his game, but after he moves back to the wing, his three-point shooting will go back up closer to 40%. I doubt he becomes a good defender, but that's not a requirement for all-stars. He's a full-stack scorer, entertaining to watch, and he's a killer.

Ingram had his good start hobbled by the fight, but he looks ready for the jump. He doesn't do anything great except get to the line, but he's also still the most physically immature player on the team, so still some major without any real weaknesses. He's become much more confident and aggressive. As a 20-point scoring versatile all-around player, if the Lakers become a good team, he'll get in.

I don't think Hart will ever get in because he's too unselfish and not flashy. Elite rebounder for his size and position, great three-point shooter, but he won't get enough shots and points. True role players like Hart usually don't get rewarded.

It's early in the season and there's been some chaos, but I've actually become more bullish on the young core (aside from Kuzma, who was already special last year). I would actually prefer seeing a main lineup of Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, and McGee all year.

[Landsberger]

Lonzo JUST turned 21 last week, and he's averaging 13, 7, and 6 per 36. He's shooting 46% overall and 41% from three. If his shot and health holds up, not only will he be an all-star, I think he'll have a chance to be one of the best point guards ever.

Kuzma is already offensively an all-star. The center experiment has messed up his game, but after he moves back to the wing, his three-point shooting will go back up closer to 40%. I doubt he becomes a good defender, but that's not a requirement for all-stars. He's a full-stack scorer, entertaining to watch, and he's a killer.

Ingram had his good start hobbled by the fight, but he looks ready for the jump. He doesn't do anything great except get to the line, but he's also still the most physically immature player on the team, so still some major without any real weaknesses. He's become much more confident and aggressive. As a 20-point scoring versatile all-around player, if the Lakers become a good team, he'll get in.

I don't think Hart will ever get in because he's too unselfish and not flashy. Elite rebounder for his size and position, great three-point shooter, but he won't get enough shots and points. True role players like Hart usually don't get rewarded.

It's early in the season and there's been some chaos, but I've actually become more bullish on the young core (aside from Kuzma, who was already special last year). I would actually prefer seeing a main lineup of Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, and McGee all year.

You need to pry the purple glasses off.... You basically just said we have an all time great, and 2 top 3 players at their position. I like to think that one of them will grow from here a lot but all 3?

There are too many to count examples of "young guys" in their 2nd or 3rd year who've topped out or are very close to it. Not everyone grows on a 45° angle up to the right you know.

Russell was supposed to be the next coming of Curry except bigger and better..... Randle was the next beast and was going to be an all time great.... This summer we had a thread that had Mykhailiuk taking Kuzma's spot in the starting lineup. I think we Laker fans are the last ones who should be calling anyone on our team All Stars until they are. The Lakers have always had all stars that were borderline anyway because of fan voting so even then it's different than and Indiana All Star.

[Japago]

There are too many to count examples of "young guys" in their 2nd or 3rd year who've topped out or are very close to it. Not everyone grows on a 45° angle up to the right you know.

Russell was supposed to be the next coming of Curry except bigger and better..... Randle was the next beast and was going to be an all time great.... This summer we had a thread that had Mykhailiuk taking Kuzma's spot in the starting lineup. I think we Laker fans are the last ones who should be calling anyone on our team All Stars until they are. The Lakers have always had all stars that were borderline anyway because of fan voting so even then it's different than and Indiana All Star.

And at the very least, I think future stars have shown a lot bigger signs of stardom that early than any of the Lakers' young players currently have. I think there are several rookies have already shown more than any of the Lakers' young core.

I love this topic. I feel really alone when it comes to my doubts about the Lakers' young core. I can tolerate different opinions, but it can be difficult to be on an island.

[milesfides]

I actually argued against the lofty projections of D'Angelo. Same with Randle. The main thing for me is noticeable elite skills. D'Angelo didn't have any. Randle had rebounding, but nothing else, a lot of bad.

Of our group, Lonzo has the most elite skills: passing, rebound, and defense. Kuzma has shooting and a full deck scoring ability. With Ingram - I had the most reservations until this season. But his versatility makes him a dynamic wing, and these guys tend to have a good chance to get in without being an elite player.

And you have to look at age. Most all-stars are in their late 20s. That bodes well for our young core as the next generation of all-stars. In five years, half if not more of the current all-stars will be cleared out.

Consider the talent around the league at their respective ages. Not many better than our own.

[kobe808lak]

Kuzma, Ball, Ingram have potential. Kuzma likely to get the numbers to get in but will he have the impact? Ball is so raw still. I think I'm most disappointed in Ingram up to this point.. I feel like he is playing lower than what his level should be at right now.. He should be killing guys with his size.

This start has got me questioning the direction of this team, I'm also more open to a trade now more so than before.

[BEazy]

I slightly see it in Ball. Ingram...I don't think he has it. Kuz maybe. Hart, probably not. IF Ingram gains weight like Giannis, then yes he'll be a multi all star.