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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#81 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:34 am

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Parliament10 wrote:I think that it's just a Comedy of Riches, so to speak.
We have almost an All-Star lineup as Starters.

Too many good players compacted into one area.
I think that it would serve us much better, to move one of the wings to the 2nd Unit.

Bird, McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson and Ainge didn’t have any problem sharing the ball, playing together and being a Top offense.

Too many good players is a cop out. Celtics are selfish offensively.

Pierce, Rondo, Allen, Perk and KG didn’t seem to have an issue either



I agree. I actually think Hayward is the only unselfish starter.

Horford would like a word. He's actually a tad too unselfish at times. Love it when he gets his man to overcommit on the closeout then he just drives and soars for a dunk. He's a pass-first center if I ever saw one.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#82 » by Parliament10 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:36 am

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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#83 » by SichtingLives » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:48 am

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Celts17Pride wrote:Hopefully the Celtics 27th ranked offense decides to play together for once and doesn’t shoot over 50% of their shots from three point range. Maybe they might shoot over 10 free throws too.

Looking for improvement on offense. Win or Lose.

I think that it's just a Comedy of Riches, so to speak.
We have almost an All-Star lineup as Starters.

Too many good players compacted into one area.
I think that it would serve us much better, to move one of the wings to the 2nd Unit.


We were building a thing called a "dual core" for a few years. A youth movement, and vets. And it was supposed to come together organically. But when Gordon got hurt, that all went out the window, we fast tracked Tatum, Brown and Rozier and it worked.

Now we're asking those young guys to take a step back and very maturely figure it out with two other guys expected to be the leaders, or alphas, who are both coming off injury/surgery and it isn't very natural for any of them. So what we are currently doing is both unprecedented (maybe not but I can't think of other examples) and certainly not organic. There's a lot of moving pieces and roles, players who aren't up to 100% yet and young guys who we can't really expect to know how to fit in just yet.

When you look at it like this, it's not surprising that the one guy without a conscience who doesn't really gaf about any of the dynamics in Marcus Morris is the one who is currently thriving. Despite the paper results, I see Brown getting slowly comfortable in a role. Kyrie is simply working back from the surgeries still. Same with Gordon. Tatum got trolled by Kobe in the offseason, that'll fix. But it is very tricky, what we're expecting of roles given the lineage of how this team has come together. Just keep looking for signs of cohesion is all I can think to do. Despite all the individual talent this team (offensively) has certainly been ugly to watch so far.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#84 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:51 am

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Well, this has to change.


Lot of talk from a drraammmatticallly underachieving crew on that front.

If the players care at all we should see significant improvement tonight.

It isn't like they could possibly do worse.

Perhaps this will be a statement game in the right direction. Win or lose doesn't matter as much as how we perform.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#85 » by AlCelticFan » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:53 am

3D Chess wrote:Let's eat these nuggets!

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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#86 » by AlCelticFan » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:58 am

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Marvel wrote:Well well i'm glad Brad pointed that out. This offense will struggle to get out of the 2nd round.

Agreed. You can't be last in FT's and expect to get a whistle or have great success in the playoffs. They are a bad offense. I really only look at points per shot and effective FG percentage and theirs sucks and a lot of it is because they don't generate points at the line which can offset bad shooting nights just like the 3 ball can save you sometimes. You need a balance.

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But when you are literally the only team in the NBA that far off... that's scary.

I think you're misreading the chart. We're not the worst offense based on this. The Magic, the Suns, and the Raptors are similarly bad. Not so great for us, but we're not literally the only team in the NBA that is that far off. We're not off the chart.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#87 » by Parliament10 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:58 am

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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#88 » by Froob » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:58 am

Celtics fans traveling well to Denver, love it.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#89 » by Froob » Tue Nov 6, 2018 1:59 am

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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#92 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:05 am

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celticfan42487 wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:Agreed. You can't be last in FT's and expect to get a whistle or have great success in the playoffs. They are a bad offense. I really only look at points per shot and effective FG percentage and theirs sucks and a lot of it is because they don't generate points at the line which can offset bad shooting nights just like the 3 ball can save you sometimes. You need a balance.

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But when you are literally the only team in the NBA that far off... that's scary.

I think you're misreading the chart. We're not the worst offense based on this. The Magic, the Suns, and the Raptors are similarly bad. Not so great for us, but we're not literally the only team in the NBA that is that far off. We're not off the chart.

I think you mean Hawks and not Raptors. Celtics have a lottery team offense. Unbelievable
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Post#93 » by AlCelticFan » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:07 am

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celticfan42487 wrote:But when you are literally the only team in the NBA that far off... that's scary.

I think you're misreading the chart. We're not the worst offense based on this. The Magic, the Suns, and the Raptors are similarly bad. Not so great for us, but we're not literally the only team in the NBA that is that far off. We're not off the chart.

I think you mean Hawks and not Raptors. Celtics have a lottery team offense. Unbelievable

Yup Hawks :) Yup lotto team offense, pretty ridiculous, but at least it's not like we're in this other-wordly-bad next tier of terribad offense.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#94 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:08 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Hopefully the Celtics 27th ranked offense decides to play together for once and doesn’t shoot over 50% of their shots from three point range. Maybe they might shoot over 10 free throws too.

Looking for improvement on offense. Win or Lose.


Naw, the volume of threes is great— its the mid range jumpers thats the problem
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#95 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:10 am

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Celts17Pride wrote:Hopefully the Celtics 27th ranked offense decides to play together for once and doesn’t shoot over 50% of their shots from three point range. Maybe they might shoot over 10 free throws too.

Looking for improvement on offense. Win or Lose.


Naw, the volume of threes is great— its the mid range jumpers thats the problem

Celtics are playing exactly the same way they lost Game 7 to the Cavs. It’s not winning basketball
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Post#96 » by Froob » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:10 am

Has IT been good in Denver? I didn’t see the fit when he signed. They have a lot of ball handlers and he’s a big personality. Surprised Orlando didn’t sign him, they are dying for a competent point guard and IT could play a lot.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#97 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:10 am

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Celts17Pride wrote:
AlCelticFan wrote:I think you're misreading the chart. We're not the worst offense based on this. The Magic, the Suns, and the Raptors are similarly bad. Not so great for us, but we're not literally the only team in the NBA that is that far off. We're not off the chart.

I think you mean Hawks and not Raptors. Celtics have a lottery team offense. Unbelievable

Yup Hawks :) Yup lotto team offense, pretty ridiculous, but at least it's not like we're in this other-wordly-bad next tier of terribad offense.


Ahhhh yes I was reading it wrong.

Okay good. Yeah I was like waaaahhhh

But yeah makes sense when you're top 3 on D and bottom 3 on O that you'd end up in isolation haha.

Nice to hear Brad reiterate on Celtics broadcast it's obvious the 3 isn't the problem, us taking and making 3s isn't the issue.

It's the long 2s.

3 or layups or FTs you **** wussies.
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#98 » by Parliament10 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:10 am

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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#99 » by Parliament10 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:11 am

Do we need Baynes to come in early?
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Re: Celtics (6-3) @ Nuggets (8-1) – 9:00PM, Mon, Nov. 5, 2018 

Post#100 » by Froob » Tue Nov 6, 2018 2:11 am

Denver changed their unis again and STILL failed to bring back the rainbow everybody wanted. Delete this franchise.
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