Fake Trade Thread

[SeanBobcats]

Tobias is too good of a player to get at such a low value. I would think a first round pick moving from us is a must if we aren’t giving away miles or monk. Plus is it realistic for us to give him and kemba both huge contracts this offseason?

I think two guys we should target with low value are Wes Matthews and Dewayne Dedmon. Both can step into our starting lineup immediately and play both ways. Dedmon is probably the lower valued guy but I really think he’d be a big upgrade at center. Rebounds well, has the strength and length to finish at the rim, and probably spaces the floor better than any of our current centers.

Maybe we could move some mix of zeller+lamb+ second rounders (maybe like a top 18 protected first this year that converts to seconds if the protection holds up) to get Wes and Dewayne into our starting lineup. This would also clear cap and give us more space to sign kemba back this offseason. Assuming we can get Kemba back and the other two for relatively cheapish, run a similar lineup next season, and we should have more cap space the next offseason with Marv, Biyombo, and Parker all coming off the books.

After the deal move Marvin to the bench and insert MKG (doesn’t have to be done but if Marv isn’t making threes I don’t see good reason to keep having him start)

Kemba/Parker/Graham
Matthews/Monk
Batum/Bridges
MKG/Marv
Dedmon/Hernangomez/Biz

[MasterIchiro]

Nothing wrong with giving up 2019 first + MKG + Frank for Tobias Harris and using MKG money + Lamb money to retain T. Harris. He's in his prime with Kemba and is a legit #2 scorer. I think Bridges could push Batum from the starting lineup next year, giving the team more aggressive defense, rebounding, transition buckets and range. The loss of playmaking would be buffered by the increase in scoring with the addition of Harris as a #2 threat.

[MasterIchiro]

The team would have Kemba + Harris in their prime as #1 and #2 options with Monk and Miles pushing to step up in big spots on nights when the top options aren't clicking.

[MasterIchiro]

Not to mention vets like Parker and Batum on the second unit feeding a more established Willy Hernangomez. You could even pair DeVonte Graham with Parker in the backcourt as Graham transitions to primary backup for Kemba's big contract years.

[MasterIchiro]

Tobias Harris will be cheaper than Butler and doesn't block Monk.

[Benjamin Linus]

I'd go for that in a heartbeat... but I can't see the Clips doing it. Seems like they're trying to make a playoff push while keeping capspace open for the offseason. This trade goes against both fronts.

Not nearly as exciting, but I would imagine Gallinari would be easy to get. He's inconsistent, always injured, and locked in for 22.6 million next season, but he is a 6-10 forward putting up 19.8 ppg on 45/48/98. Maybe Marvin, Frank, and a second round pick or two?

[LofJ]

I'd go for that in a heartbeat... but I can't see the Clips doing it. Seems like they're trying to make a playoff push while keeping capspace open for the offseason. This trade goes against both fronts.

Not nearly as exciting, but I would imagine Gallinari would be easy to get. He's inconsistent, always injured, and locked in for 22.6 million next season, but he is a 6-10 forward putting up 19.8 ppg on 45/48/98. Maybe Marvin, Frank, and a second round pick or two?

Gallinari is a guy we can realistically get. Our defense would take a small hit, but our offense would only be 2nd to the Warriors.

[Eoghan]

I don't think I trust Tobias Harris as a no. 2 option.

[HornetJail]

I don't think I trust Tobias Harris as a no. 2 option.

I don't trust him enough to trade MKG and a 1st for him. Something like Frank+Marvin+1st or Frank+Biz+1st, I'd do it for sure. He's not a perfect second option, but he can fill that role well enough to significantly improve the team.

[JMAC3]

Would we do Batum and our first for Porter? Washington might go rebuild some and they would probably value our first.

For us porter is much younger and a better defender. Think he would make playing monk and Kemba together better.


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[Liver_Pooty]

Tobias Harris is seriously underrated

[Eoghan]

Holy crap Porter is making 26 million per? Washington should give us a pick.

[dmutombo321]

I'd be elated to add Tobias Harris to this roster. I dont see any realistic path to do so though without parting with pieces that will make people unhappy.

Harris has elevated his game to being an all-star caliber talent this year;.. He's is 26yo and averaging 21/8.5/2 on 53% shooting and 43% from outside.

If I'm LAC, I insist on Bridges as the centerpiece for any trade for him.
If I'm Charlotte, I'd counter with MKG/Monk and a 1st. Not sure if that gets it done though, although at 6'6, SGA would be perfect to pair with Monk

As Linus mentions, the clips would be more inclined to part with the equally talented Gallinari who Charlotte could probably obtain for much less. He's a walking injury though, 4 years older than Harris on the wrong side of 30 and on the books for absurd money next year.

[LofJ]

We can't afford to pay Harris next summer. Giving up an asset like Monk to get him makes no sense.

Gallinari is a much more realistic target. I think we could convince the Bulls to take on Marvin and Frank and send Jabari to the Clippers with a 1st round pick as compensation.

And if we really want to be ambitious I'd try to rope the Jazz in to send Lamb and Beverly to them for Exum. Hes a horrible fit on their roster with Mitchell and Rubio, but he'd be an excellent fit on our roster because guard defense is one of our biggest weaknesses.

[316Hornets]

We can't afford to pay Harris next summer. Giving up an asset like Monk to get him makes no sense.

Gallinari is a much more realistic target. I think we could convince the Bulls to take on Marvin and Frank and send Jabari to the Clippers with a 1st round pick as compensation.

And if we really want to be ambitious I'd try to rope the Jazz in to send Lamb and Beverly to them for Exum. Hes a horrible fit on their roster with Mitchell and Rubio, but he'd be an excellent fit on our roster because guard defense is one of our biggest weaknesses.

I don't think Tobias will be that expensive unless LAC wants to give him 20+ mil. And, they don't if they plan on signing a couple max contracts.

So, maybe Marv and Frank plus a 1st round pick would get it done.

It all really depends on what LAC timeline is. If they want to compete next year, then it's a no. But, a prolonged tank could make them better contenders and Marv is a nice veteran presence to have on a young team.

[LofJ]

We can't afford to pay Harris next summer. Giving up an asset like Monk to get him makes no sense.

Gallinari is a much more realistic target. I think we could convince the Bulls to take on Marvin and Frank and send Jabari to the Clippers with a 1st round pick as compensation.

And if we really want to be ambitious I'd try to rope the Jazz in to send Lamb and Beverly to them for Exum. Hes a horrible fit on their roster with Mitchell and Rubio, but he'd be an excellent fit on our roster because guard defense is one of our biggest weaknesses.

I don't think Tobias will be that expensive unless LAC wants to give him 20+ mil. And, they don't if they plan on signing a couple max contracts.

So, maybe Marv and Frank plus a 1st round pick would get it done.

It all really depends on what LAC timeline is. If they want to compete next year, then it's a no. But, a prolonged tank could make them better contenders and Marv is a nice veteran presence to have on a young team.

The Clippers want to pay him, they offered him as much as the CBA allowed last summer but it was much less than what they and other teams will be able to offer him this coming summer so he declined. They offered it as a gesture of goodwill, they plan to pay him next summer AND go after Kawhi Leonard. They aren't going to take on additional salary, but they would likely be interested in clearing Gallinari off their books because he isn't in their long-term plans.

[SeanBobcats]

Trading for Harris on its own is super unlikely. Many teams would be pursuing him, he's a very good offensive player in today's game. Add in signing him along with Kemba with essentially no cap this offseason? Yeah, just not happening.

What we should be doing is trying to clear space while also making marginal improvements to the team. That is why I previously mentioned Dewayne Dedmon and Wes Matthews as realistic targets that we could even potentially bring back. Then next season we will have the expiring contracts of Marv and Biz that we could use in a trade to potentially add a guy that could demand a contract in the offseason.

[Bassman]

Given Kemba is our star, and we have no others, I say we have to re-sign him. Bridges and Monk have such great potential I call them locks (not untouchable but close to it). Anybody else is open to negotiation.

[amcoolio]

Really sucks Washington is in our division. I would offer a godfather package for Beal or Porter.

[MasterIchiro]

Last night Marvin did what Tobias would do on a nightly basis. It makes a huge difference getting a 20 point scorer to go along with Kemba plus the deep bench.