Blue Jays next manager – Charlie Montoyo

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What is the new analytics other than starting a bullpen pitcher?

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What is the new analytics other than starting a bullpen pitcher?

More aggressive platoon/lineup alteration versus the old school "settled lineup', the use of more tailor-made shifts (which is very soon going to evolve into a frequent use of four OFs), shorter SP stints overall, a focus on trying to use data from Trackman/Statcast and the like to identify areas of improvement in players, and working with players to alter their approach to maximize production. The modern model is an integrated FO/on-field team rather than having a group of people that acquire the talent, and then another group responsible for figuring out how to use them.

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Then there’s the much discussed “opener” strategy.

But just because Montoyo helped implement it in Tampa Bay, that doesn’t necessarily mean the Blue Jays plan on radically reallocating their innings in the same way.

Here’s why:

“Just because I come from Tampa Bay doesn’t mean we’re going to do everything that they did over there,” Montoyo explained Monday during his introductory press conference in Toronto. “We’re a different team and we’re going to adjust to what we have. When you guys talk about openers, that doesn’t mean that’s what we’re going to do. We’ll put our brains together, talk about it and go from there.”

Simply put, the Blue Jays won’t adopt the opener just for the sake of doing so. They begin the off-season in search of pitching and if GM Ross Atkins adds two established starters to a healthy rotation before opening day, there would be no need to even consider an opener.

“What every team would prefer is that they’d have five starters that can go seven or eight innings,” Atkins said, “but that’s hard to find.”

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[Natural11]

They aren't actually keeping Rivera, are they?

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They aren't actually keeping Rivera, are they?

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[So_Fresh]

Good riddance! I was never a fan of Jacoby and his swing for the fences approach. Feel bad about Leiper however. Seems like a nice guy and he did a decent job as our 1B coach since 2014.

Not a fan of Rivera either. Might as well clean ship and start fresh with a new coaching staff.

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Good riddance! I was never a fan of Jacoby and his swing for the fences approach. Feel bad about Leiper however. Seems like a nice guy and he did a decent job as our 1B coach since 2014.

Not a fan of Rivera either. Might as well clean ship and start fresh with a new coaching staff.

I believe Leiper was also the OF coach and the Jays looked anything but able & confident out there... no need to keep a coach for their personality, at the expense of teaching fundamentals

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WALKER, JOHNSON LIKELY TO STAY

The Jays have will not be bringing back hitting coach Brook Jacoby and first-base coach Tim Leiper (first reported by John Lott of The Athletic) under new manager Charlie Montoyo but Atkins suggested that pitching coaches Pete Walker and Dane Johnson will be back, and that they’d like to bring bench coach DeMarlo Hale back as well, though Hale is reportedly looking at other opportunities. Former Sun baseball writer Bob Elliott reported on Monday that Jays 3B coach Luis Rivera expected to named to Montoyo’s staff.

“There still could be changes (to the coaching staff) but I’m not anticipating them at this point,” said Atkins.

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At the general managers’ meeting in Carlsbad, Calif., on Monday, Atkins told reporters he does not expect further departures, but didn’t rule out the possibility. He seemed to want to keep pitching coach Pete Walker and bullpen coach Dane Johnson. DeMarlo Hale, the Jays’ bench coach for the past six seasons, is weighing his options.

“Feel very good about Pete Walker as our pitching coach and confident that he’ll be back,” Atkins told a scrum of Toronto-based media. “Dane has done a great job for us. DeMarlo has been fantastic and he’s got different alternatives he wants to think about, as well. Really, it’s just thinking through all the alternatives we have and the opportunities we have to complement Charlie’s staff in the best way we can.”

He was not about to say whether he meant infield coach Luis Rivera would be back. Rivera also served as third-base coach. He joined the Jays’ staff in 2011 and has been third-base coach for six years.

Montoyo said he and Atkins are working together on the coaching staff, and he is eager to get the job done.

“We’re taking our time, but I’m hoping that time comes quick because the sooner we get my coaches, the sooner we can start working on what we’re going to do in spring training,” he said.

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[Davey0]

Great hiring. I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. That being said, I take it Demarlo Hale is done with the Blue Jays.

[Skin Blues]

Yeah for a guy that seemed to be in the running for a lot of manager jobs the last couple years, I don't think he'll accept a demotion from replay phone operator to 1B coach.

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Atkins has some past familiarity with Hudgens, who served as Cleveland’s field co-ordinator from 2006-2010. An 18th-round pick of the Milwaukee Brewers in 1977, Hudgens didn’t sign and instead joined Cleveland as an amateur free agent in 1979, spending two years in their system before signing with Oakland, where he eventually appeared in six games with the Athletics in 1983.

He moved into coaching once his days as a first baseman came to an end, working in both the Oakland and Houston systems before eventually becoming the director of player development for the Athletics from 1996-98 and 2000-02.

"First and foremost, his character," Atkins said of what he likes about Hudgens. "He’s a consummate learner, teacher, extremely well respected by his peers, incredible integrity. His experiences across player development and major-league coaching are exactly what we were looking for."

Additionally, he’ll give the Blue Jays an additional support for their new hitting coach given his background and recent success.

"That’s a nice benefit to have, his hitting expertise," said Atkins. "As we now look to hire a new hitting coach, he will be helpful in identifying that person and his experiences when we do onboard that person will be powerful."

[Black Watch]

What is the new analytics other than starting a bullpen pitcher?

More aggressive platoon/lineup alteration versus the old school "settled lineup', the use of more tailor-made shifts (which is very soon going to evolve into a frequent use of four OFs), shorter SP stints overall, a focus on trying to use data from Trackman/Statcast and the like to identify areas of improvement in players, and working with players to alter their approach to maximize production. The modern model is an integrated FO/on-field team rather than having a group of people that acquire the talent, and then another group responsible for figuring out how to use them.

Basically, how you take an idea that is borne out of a front office and implement it into a game.

Today it's not so much about gaps in collecting measurements, it's about gaps in implementing and executing them. Most of the raw data is readily available to all 30 clubs. The difference is how is it being packaged, messaged, and delivered.

Shapiro knows all this and is likely to go all-in.

[BigLeagueChew]

What is the new analytics other than starting a bullpen pitcher?

More aggressive platoon/lineup alteration versus the old school "settled lineup', the use of more tailor-made shifts (which is very soon going to evolve into a frequent use of four OFs), shorter SP stints overall, a focus on trying to use data from Trackman/Statcast and the like to identify areas of improvement in players, and working with players to alter their approach to maximize production. The modern model is an integrated FO/on-field team rather than having a group of people that acquire the talent, and then another group responsible for figuring out how to use them.

Basically, how you take an idea that is borne out of a front office and implement it into a game.

Today it's not so much about gaps in collecting measurements, it's about gaps in implementing and executing them. Most of raw data is readily available to all 30 clubs. The difference is how is it being packaged, messaged, and delivered.

Shapiro knows all this and is likely to go all-in.

I have some reading to do then.Last year was the first year i noticed many people we're talking about spin rates for pitchers, and bat speed or launch angles for hitters.

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• It has not been made official yet, but the Blue Jays expect pitching coach Pete Walker to return despite new manager Charlie Montoyo plumping for his former Triple-A pitching coach, Neil Allen #walkthisway