Bill Simmons: Terry Rozier unhappy with playing time, NBA circles think the Celtics need to trade him

[GoCeltics123]

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[3D Chess]

Bill tweeted this right after Shams tweeted this;

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Elsewhere in Boston, with Kyrie Irving verbally committing to a return and a new deal with the Celtics, the franchise will eventually have to face a difficult decision when it comes to the possible lucrative restricted free agency of Terry Rozier.

Quietly, at least seven teams have been monitoring Rozier’s status this season, league sources told The Athletic, waiting to see if the Celtics could begin to field trade calls. The Phoenix Suns have aggressively pursued Rozier, even before firing Ryan McDonough as general manager, league sources said.

Nevertheless, Boston appears content with its roster, and who could blame them? Celtics general manager Danny Ainge and his front office staff have built arguably the deepest roster in the Eastern Conference and anywhere in the league outside of the Bay.

They are 6-4 entering Thursday’s game in Phoenix, and must find better flow offensively and tighter rotations. Irving met with Celtics’ brass and ownership leading up to the start of training camp, and informed them of his plans to re-sign as a free agent, sources said.

The Celtics selected Rozier far above where anyone expected them to at No. 16 overall in the 2015 draft. They nailed the pick. But committing a full five-year maximum contract to Irving this offseason would make it difficult to match a potential $16-to-$20 million per year (or more) offer sheet on Rozier.

[truth18]

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Hopefully Danny doesn't do him dirty.

He would be a great pick up for the Magic.

[Pacino62]

And what the **** did he think he’d get for minutes?

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Well he got a taste of starting last year and of course he doesn't want to go back. Like Pacino said how much time did he think he was going to get behind Irving?

Truth be told in the minutes he played he has not been very impressive anyway, bad shots and overall a very low BBIQ.

Celtics won't get a whole lot for him anyway since any team that trades for him has the potential to lose him in FA.

[CelticsLV]

Shams really doesn't mention anything about Rozier being unhappy or that Celtics are exploring trades, just talks about Rozier's upcoming RFA and Celtics options. He even mentions that Celtics are content with the current roster and there's nothing imminent. Simmons knows absolutely nothing when it comes to inside info. He again just speculates based on his own observations. Someone who constantly posts stupid trade ideas on Twitter and plays with the trade machine shouldn't be taken seriously. He's no better than SAS.

[GoCeltics123]

“I’m very concerned about the Boston Celtics. There’s some chemistry stuff. I mentioned this on Friday, but I’m concerned, it’s a classic ‘too many guys’ issue that is just manifesting itself so far and I feel like there’s gonna be a trade coming…

I feel like Terry Rozier is not going to be on this team 10 days from now.”

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[Banks2Pierce]

We are trying to win the title so we'd have to be offered a damn good player, but RFAs in their last year typically return protected 1sts. 1sts are good, but this team needs players more. Can't think of a match off the top of my head.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Unless it comes from reload, I don't trust the info.

[DarkAzcura]

Screw it, go offer Rozier and Morris for Butler and see what happens (I did not check salaries lol). Morris will probably start complaining when Hayward gets healthy anyway. Clearing out Rozier and Morris will open up 48 MPG to spread to whoever we trade for and Hayward when he gets healthy.

I don’t even like Butler but who knows.

[Andrew McCeltic]

San Antonio isn't "intriguing", they have nothing to offer. Orlando and Phoenix will low-ball us. Curious who the seven teams are.

[ddb]

I don't think Terry Rozier is unhappy. But at the same time both Rozier & the Celtics brass know that the writing is on the wall for Rozier to be traded. Without knowing for sure, I can almost guarantee that Danny Ainge has had many conversations with Terry Rozier about hooking him up with a good situation via trade. These things take time. Danny isn't going to just trade him to trade him. He needed to let the market take shape. Obviously, with Smart's new contract & with Kyrie verbally committing to a return, there's no way the team can also fork over 15-20million to TR. Everyone in the league knows this.
The leverage Danny has is 2-fold. "We are competing for a championship and since we own his rights as a RFA, we can deal with this later" and "why can't be turn around and trade Marcus Smart later in the season which would in turn open up the possibility of TR returning to be the long-term 6th man?"

My educated guess is that Terry Rozier WILL be traded at some point. But looking at Danny's history should tell us 1 thing for sure....he isn't giving Rozier away. He would rather hang on to him and figure it out later then give him up for less than market value.

Danny is playing with house money, y'all.

[ddb]

Screw it, go offer Rozier and Morris for Butler and see what happens (I did not check salaries lol). Morris will probably start complaining when Hayward gets healthy anyway. Clearing out Rozier and Morris will open up 48 MPG to spread to whoever we trade for and Hayward when he gets healthy.

I don’t even like Butler but who knows.

doesn't work $$ wise. Only way we can get a deal to satisfy the CBA is including Marcus Smart. And the Celtics would have to wait until Smart is eligible to be dealt. And if Smart is dealt then Boston would probably try to keep Rozier long-term as the 6th man. Butler to Boston is a LONG-SHOT

[GoCeltics123]

If you can get Korver for Terry+filler, that'd be an interesting trade.

Celtics shoot a lot of threes so would make sense.

[BigTrade92]

Was just a matter of time I suppose...

[Banks2Pierce]

Turner and KO both got paid coming off the bench so some of these guys need to realize that Boston's bench is going to be a better path to $ than being exposed in another place.

[DarkAzcura]

Screw it, go offer Rozier and Morris for Butler and see what happens (I did not check salaries lol). Morris will probably start complaining when Hayward gets healthy anyway. Clearing out Rozier and Morris will open up 48 MPG to spread to whoever we trade for and Hayward when he gets healthy.

I don’t even like Butler but who knows.

doesn't work $$ wise. Only way we can get a deal to satisfy the CBA is including Marcus Smart. And the Celtics would have to wait until Smart is eligible to be dealt. And if Smart is dealt then Boston would probably try to keep Rozier long-term as the 6th man. Butler to Boston is a LONG-SHOT

True. Forgot how little Morris makes.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Josh Jackson, Domantas Sabonis, Jonathan Isaac, Dario Saric.. that's about it for great value in a 1:1 swap. Next tier down would be Trey Lyles or Juan Hernangomez, or one of the Knicks' point guards. Giles or Skal. Awful time for this to be leaking. Uh, another option for Phoenix on December 15th would be to move Bird's money, Rozier, and Morris for TJ Warren. Warren is a better player than Morris, a better scorer, he seems like he might be able to shoot three-pointers now, he's on a good contract, and we would open up front court bench minutes for Theis, Yabu, Ojeleye at the 4. I could really live with the Warren option. Phoenix cuts salary short-term and goes with Bridges/Jackson at small forward.

Or you wait until January and find a Smart trade - Smart/Jaylen/filler for Bradley Beal was my bright idea this morning.

[24istheLAW]

Turner and KO both got paid coming off the bench so some of these guys need to realize that Boston's bench is going to be a better path to $ than being exposed in another place.

Yep. Terry is a competitive dude and he wants to be on the floor. But looking dispassionately at the financial picture, he's in a great spot right where he is.

[Taget]

With Kyrie's minutes not being too far north of 30 Rozier's minutes have been usually in the high 20s. Nearly even to "starter" minutes on this team as we try to be cautious about not having Kyrie, Hayward, and Horford be too beatup come playoff time.

But while I'm giving the team to December to right the ship (and that really is not that far off!) we do have to face the possibility that perhaps our critics may have been correct about our over abundance of talent perhaps turning into a minus rather than a plus. That for example players would try to play for their next contract rather than the greater good. The Shaq/Kobe Lakers got rid of Nick Van Exel, Elden Campbell, and Eddie Jones all potential alpha players and all far more talented than what they got in return to in part make sure who their leaders and who their role players were was better defined.

Come trade deadline don't be surprised if some players are traded below what we see their trade value as. However Rozier is someone I do expect us to hold on to for value. We're not under the gun to trade him at the deadline.