Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG

[bargnanimvp]

I'd rather roll the dice on John Wall than Rozier. At least with Wall you get a max callibre talent.

Different situation though, a deal for wall is going to include far more assets than a deal for terry. Terry could potentially be got for expendable guys like vuc and if he fails in a big role he can walk if he wants money, Wall we'd likely be giving up someone like isaac or ag and some picks.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I'd rather roll the dice on John Wall than Rozier. At least with Wall you get a max callibre talent.

John Wall would eat up like 40 some odd percent of our teams cap (I'm probably off on this) and imo hes declining. I think he's the next Gilbert Arenas oddly enough. No thanks.

I'd rather roll the dice on John Wall than Rozier. At least with Wall you get a max callibre talent.

Different situation though, a deal for wall is going to include far more assets than a deal for terry. Terry could potentially be got for expendable guys like vuc and if he fails in a big role he can walk if he wants money, Wall we'd likely be giving up someone like isaac or ag and some picks.

We shouldn't be trading for either one of those guys.

[bargnanimvp]

I'd rather roll the dice on John Wall than Rozier. At least with Wall you get a max callibre talent.

John Wall would eat up like 40 some odd percent of our teams cap (I'm probably off on this) and imo hes declining. I think he's the next Gilbert Arenas oddly enough. No thanks.

I'd rather roll the dice on John Wall than Rozier. At least with Wall you get a max callibre talent.

Different situation though, a deal for wall is going to include far more assets than a deal for terry. Terry could potentially be got for expendable guys like vuc and if he fails in a big role he can walk if he wants money, Wall we'd likely be giving up someone like isaac or ag and some picks.

We shouldn't be trading for either one of those guys.

I'm not that high on terry, but if they'd do a deal that is basically just vuc for terry and filler if it's true terry wants out i'd do it just to get a look at him before free agency. If they want long term assets back no thanks.

[OrlandoDream]

There have been at least seven teams monitoring the status of Terry Rozier this season waiting to see if the Boston Celtics might begin fielding trade calls for him.

Rozier will be a restricted free agent this offseason and Kyrie Irving plans to re-sign with the Celtics to remain their starting point guard. Rozier could command a contract in the $16 million to $20 million per year range.

The Phoenix Suns have been one of the more aggressive teams in pursuing Rozier.

Whoever gives Rozier 16-20mil per needs to be banned from NBA for life......of course it will be us that does it though.

[IllMagic04]

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Wall's contract is epic tho

That was too funny. That contract is horrid. No way I would even consider trading for Wall. They are stuck with that contract at least for another 2 years. Maybe by year 3 someone might take it but I dunno. 46 mil PLAYER OPTION on the 4th year

[OrlChamps2030]

Give me DLo over Rozier

[Def Swami]

I've been open to considering Rozier if he plays well this season, but he's playing like complete ass so far. The longer he plays like this the more his playoff run will look like a fluke. Last we need is another inconsistent and inefficient scorer who isn't really a playmaker. He needs to pick it up and show something.

I’d be interested to see what he can do as a starter and given the keys.

Same. For a cheap price, which is basically anyone besides 1st round picks, AG, Isaac, and Bamba, I'd do it. It would be nice to see what this team looks like with an average point guard and it gives us a season to see how he fits in a role here. If it works out, great. If it doesn't, then we don't have to commit to him. Hell, they can have that OKC pick, because it's going to be two 2nd rounders that Weltman and Hammond spend on players who can't shoot.

[Def Swami]

Give me DLo over Rozier

I tend to agree. I'm still on DLo Island.

[bargnanimvp]

boston boards seem to think they'll get josh jackson ,isaac, sabonis or saric for rozier, i don't see it for an expiring player who is struggling and wants a big pay day

[FFBlitzace]

Usually with playoff breakouts (Jerome James, Bismack Biyombo, etc), they finish that playoff run and then go right into free agency and get their big, awful contract. With Rozier, we get a rare chance to get a further look at him and see if he can keep it up. So far, it hasn't been pretty. That playoff run was all fine and good, but if he's just a scoring guard who's not even going to score all that well, I'm not interested. He's never cracked 40% shooting for a regular season in his career. Assists aren't necessarily everything, but he doesn't really assist. He rebounds well, he keeps his turnovers down, and he shoots 3s at a good clip, and that's the most you can say about him. If he was legitimately good, he'd make a lot of sense, given his age and our need for a point guard. I'm just not convinced he's all that good.

[bargnanimvp]

Usually with playoff breakouts (Jerome James, Bismack Biyombo, etc), they finish that playoff run and then go right into free agency and get their big, awful contract. With Rozier, we get a rare chance to get a further look at him and see if he can keep it up. So far, it hasn't been pretty. That playoff run was all fine and good, but if he's just a scoring guard who's not even going to score all that well, I'm not interested. He's never cracked 40% shooting for a regular season in his career. Assists aren't necessarily everything, but he doesn't really assist. He rebounds well, he keeps his turnovers down, and he shoots 3s at a good clip, and that's the most you can say about him. If he was legitimately good, he'd make a lot of sense, given his age and our need for a point guard. I'm just not convinced he's all that good.

vuc and the okc pick for terry and baynes

boston need offense right now and vuc playmaking would help them and fit their system well.

[NotACat]

Usually with playoff breakouts (Jerome James, Bismack Biyombo, etc), they finish that playoff run and then go right into free agency and get their big, awful contract. With Rozier, we get a rare chance to get a further look at him and see if he can keep it up. So far, it hasn't been pretty. That playoff run was all fine and good, but if he's just a scoring guard who's not even going to score all that well, I'm not interested. He's never cracked 40% shooting for a regular season in his career. Assists aren't necessarily everything, but he doesn't really assist. He rebounds well, he keeps his turnovers down, and he shoots 3s at a good clip, and that's the most you can say about him. If he was legitimately good, he'd make a lot of sense, given his age and our need for a point guard. I'm just not convinced he's all that good.

vuc and the okc pick for terry and baynes

boston need offense right now and vuc playmaking would help them and fit their system well.

We need to hold on to the OKC pick

[NotACat]

boston boards seem to think they'll get josh jackson ,isaac, sabonis or saric for rozier, i don't see it for an expiring player who is struggling and wants a big pay day

Boston fans are delusional

[bargnanimvp]

Usually with playoff breakouts (Jerome James, Bismack Biyombo, etc), they finish that playoff run and then go right into free agency and get their big, awful contract. With Rozier, we get a rare chance to get a further look at him and see if he can keep it up. So far, it hasn't been pretty. That playoff run was all fine and good, but if he's just a scoring guard who's not even going to score all that well, I'm not interested. He's never cracked 40% shooting for a regular season in his career. Assists aren't necessarily everything, but he doesn't really assist. He rebounds well, he keeps his turnovers down, and he shoots 3s at a good clip, and that's the most you can say about him. If he was legitimately good, he'd make a lot of sense, given his age and our need for a point guard. I'm just not convinced he's all that good.

vuc and the okc pick for terry and baynes

boston need offense right now and vuc playmaking would help them and fit their system well.

We need to hold on to the OKC pick

It'll turn into a 2nd rounder won't it?

[IllMagic04]

boston boards seem to think they'll get josh jackson ,isaac, sabonis or saric for rozier, i don't see it for an expiring player who is struggling and wants a big pay day

Boston fans are delusional

I mean they are used to fleecing teams with trades so I understand why they are thinking that way.

[bargnanimvp]

boston boards seem to think they'll get josh jackson ,isaac, sabonis or saric for rozier, i don't see it for an expiring player who is struggling and wants a big pay day

Boston fans are delusional

I mean they are used to fleecing teams with trades so I understand why they are thinking that way.

If they did get vucevic in return i fully expect it to look like they fleeced us, i think he'd look great in boston with good defenders around him and system that will use his play making and shooting to good effect as well. Floor would be more spread for his inside game too. His numbers over all would drop but his %s would be nice and he'd have solid games i imagine. Could see Terry being horrible in a lead role too. But it's not much risk we want vuc gone anyway.

[NotACat]

vuc and the okc pick for terry and baynes

boston need offense right now and vuc playmaking would help them and fit their system well.

We need to hold on to the OKC pick

It'll turn into a 2nd rounder won't it?

Its top 20 protected, I think it'll be in the 20-25 range since they're keeping Paul George and actually have a solid squad. If we do move it, I would want it to be for someone better than Rozier or if it saves us a ton of money (ex. Fournier for Crabbe)

[Andrew McCeltic]

boston boards seem to think they'll get josh jackson ,isaac, sabonis or saric for rozier, i don't see it for an expiring player who is struggling and wants a big pay day

Boston fans are delusional

I’m the only person who posted those names, and I said they’d be “great value”, like, Rozier’s trade “ceiling” - but I think Josh and Saric (if he weren’t a Sixer) are absolutely fair value and attainable - Rozier isn’t really struggling, he’s hitting almost 40 percent from 3 - he’s just part of the collective offensive ice age that’s descended on Boston. Look up his shot percentages - the whole team has been launching long 2’s inexplicably.

[shadrock]

Ok, so im now all-in on us trading for Dedmon. We should never have let him go when we had him the first time. He can start in place of Vuc until such a time that Bamba is ready to start. That way, out team gets used to playing the same kind of style with Dedmon and Bamba being of similar profile. Waive Vuc, put him down, send him to the glue factory, i do not care, i just dont want to see him here anymore. Stay at home and drink beer for all i care, but do not take minutes and shots from this team anymore. This joke has to end now.

We need out center to run, defend, dunk, block shots, rebound. We do NOT need out center to be slow, ball dominant, bad on defense, and have a negative impact on the overall pace and space of the team and a bad sulky attitude. He has been one of the "leaders" of this team for 6 feking years and where has it gotten us? We have tried like 5 different squads around him and just as many different coaches and each time the results have been eerily similar. Its time to wake up. This is madness.

[NotACat]

Ok, so im now all-in on us trading for Dedmon. We should never have let him go when we had him the first time. He can start in place of Vuc until such a time that Bamba is ready to start. That way, out team gets used to playing the same kind of style with Dedmon and Bamba being of similar profile. Waive Vuc, put him down, send him to the glue factory, i do not care, i just dont want to see him here anymore. Stay at home and drink beer for all i care, but do not take minutes and shots from this team anymore. This joke has to end now.

We need out center to run, defend, dunk, block shots, rebound. We do NOT need out center to be slow, ball dominant, bad on defense, and have a negative impact on the overall pace and space of the team.

Why would Atlanta trade him?