Game 11: Celtics (6-4) @ Suns (2-8), 7:00pm

[MrMiyagi]

You mean can't blame his non-existing D ?

IF you are #1 overall, you are supposed to be able to play some decent D. Not harden type of D.

Anderson is pure garbage and Canaan is a G-League point guard.

I will continue to blame them until they are both gone.

How can someone blame a goddamn rookie C but not two vets?

You go see how Ayton compares to every premier big in the NBA's rookie season and then tell me about how bad he's been.

Honestly most people overrate the defense of other NBA bigs. Ayton's doing just fine for a rookie big.

[Cutter]

Bledsoe-Dragic-IT. I really miss the 3 headed hydra. Add Booker and Ayton and the NBA trembles in fear.

[SunsRback4Good]

Neither are true winners I'd stick with Caanan & Booker as they blossom into a beautiful flower.

Laugh all you want but remember, with great power comes great responsibility.

[denial]

Everyone here that thinks we have high-IQ players go rewatch that Morris three. Then come back here and tell me Booker/Canaan even know what it means to defend the three point line.

GOOD NIGHT SWEET PRINCE

We missed a rotation. One rotation. I'm not saying we do or don't have smart players. But basing anything off of one play, or even one game, is very narrow minded, and won't be accurate over the long term. Basing it off of one rotation, against any NBA offense, is short sighted. Have you seen these guys on offense (any NBA player). They're pretty good.I dont disagree. It was bad perimter defense. On one play.

[Frank Lee]

Ayton is just Enes Kanter

Stoppit.... this is so not true... cause Kanter would bust your ass if you looked at him or a teammate wrong.

Ayton is as passive as they come. Zero mean streak. No temper mon, such a dont worry be happy attitude. He's got his $$, his #1 status. I remember the bad feeling I got when they were introducing the draftees... he came out and showed off his new watch/jewelry I swear to god.

How do you coach up a bad motor? or a 'its OK to lose' mentality. He will get owned by any toughie. Really.... has anyone seen him pissed off yet ?

I cant figure out Igor yet.... but any team that doesn't foul when up by three like that has to either be not listening or weren't told. Which is it?


Now, Its time for a collage.... cant hurt.

[itlnsunsfan]

This board seems to overreact just a little bit.

Seriously? That was one of the most heartbreaking losses in awhile. Negativity is to be expected.

Negativity is fine. Saying we should fire Igor and that Watsons teams would crush this team. Calling out our ROOKIE big man etc etc is overreacting.

Ayton's lack of interior defense and intensity is concerning. BW posted a really good stat showing Ayton is giving up 71%fg at the rim, which is worst in the NBA by a center. I dont blame people at all for calling it out.

[bwoolf2]

I still don’t understand why teams don’t foul when up by 3 with less than 6 seconds left. It just makes no sense to me.

Fear of fouling on a flopping three point shooter and getting three free throws.

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Hate to say it but if this is the case there is a chance Igor is in danger of losing the team already and by team I mean Booker...

[grumpysaddle]

Maybe starting Holmes next game sends a message to Ayton on his effort and defense? Ayton started the game strong then just faded as it went on. Need constant effort. Suns also need a PG (rubio) to get him the ball consistently without having to jump 10 feet in the air to catch the entry pass. I'd also contemplate starting Okobo next game and bringing up Melton for backup minutes. Canaan and Anderson are useless if they're missing all their open 3s. At least Melton will be a defensive pest and Okobo is aggressive in driving to the rim.

[TheLogician]

Fear of fouling on a flopping three point shooter and getting three free throws.

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Ugh. If this is true, it's really bad. Makes me wonder again if Koko's lack of fluent English is a problem.

It looked like Prunty was directing the final possession during the timeout.

[_79_]

Ayton needs a damn coach! Igor is a soft and pathetic little beta male that doesn't have the testicles to chew Ayton out about playing defense. That is exactly what he needs! Also, when Ayton doesn't get the ball on O makes he checks out on D.

[denial]

he gave him a try. It was on tv. it was not a good thing.

He's given him 14 minutes on the court. He's given Anderson 237. I think we can draw conclusions on one of those, and it isn't Bender.

And Bender at least TRIES on defense. Anderson is old enough to know that he's not good or even average even when he tries, so he doesn't.

I *try* harder than any NBA player you have ever seen. I'm 5' 8". I *try* like crazy. I have to play hard or I get clowned. I'm small and slow. I'm Jared Dudly and Dellavadova, minus 8 inches.

But trust me, you don't want me on the Suns.

Trying is nice and all. But Bender is a 100% scrub. Im sorry.

[SuperSunsFan]

Who is that suit wearing young man who is a doppelganger of Brandon knight sitting next to Booker, is he like a assistant coach or something? why would we hire someone so green and inexperienced to develop our young players instead of someone having more experience in coaching and developing nba players?

[denial]

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Ugh. If this is true, it's really bad. Makes me wonder again if Koko's lack of fluent English is a problem.

It looked like Prunty was directing the final possession during the timeout.

I work with really smart people from USA and UK, English first language. We miscommunicate every day.
I've heard Koko at the podium. His English is fine. I'm sure he says "foul" just fine.

[SunsRback4Good]

Love me some Rebecca Black :heart:

[DaleyBlind]

Ayton is just Enes Kanter

Stoppit.... this is so not true... cause Kanter would bust your ass if you looked at him or a teammate wrong.

Ayton is as passive as they come. Zero mean streak. No temper mon, such a dont worry be happy attitude. He's got his $$, his #1 status. I remember the bad feeling I got when they were introducing the draftees... he came out and showed off his new watch/jewelry I swear to god.

How do you coach up a bad motor? or a 'its OK to lose' mentality. He will get owned by any toughie. Really.... has anyone seen him pissed off yet ?

I cant figure out Igor yet.... but any team that doesn't foul when up by three like that has to either be not listening or weren't told. Which is it?


Now, Its time for a collage.... cant hurt.

Kanter is a pussy as well, just another Jane.

I meant they will get their points and rebounds. But they won’t protect the rim and they don’t play and\y defense

[Frank Lee]

Nice chime in Miyag..... but stats dont tell the whole story. This kid has a head problem and doesnt really know how to play basketball.....yet.



And not comparing basketball talents with Kanter.... the big turk aint afraid of throwing bows or bustin knuckles. I cant imagine what it would take to get Ayton so fired up he'd react aggressively.

[grumpysaddle]

He's given him 14 minutes on the court. He's given Anderson 237. I think we can draw conclusions on one of those, and it isn't Bender.

And Bender at least TRIES on defense. Anderson is old enough to know that he's not good or even average even when he tries, so he doesn't.

I *try* harder than any NBA player you have ever seen. I'm 5' 8". I *try* like crazy. I have to play hard or I get clowned. I'm small and slow. I'm Jared Dudly and Dellavadova, minus 8 inches.

But trust me, you don't want me on the Suns.

Trying is nice and all. But Bender is a 100% scrub. Im sorry.

And Anderson isn't? I don't want to have to play Bender, trust me, but if it's him or Anderson (at this age, not prime Anderson)... I might go with Bender. I'd prefer neither though.

[Qwigglez]

Who is that suit wearing young man who is a doppelganger of Brandon knight sitting next to Booker, is he like a assistant coach or something? why would we hire someone so green and inexperienced to develop our young players instead of someone having more experience in coaching and developing nba players?

LMAO I said the same thing the other game. Thought it was Knight sitting on the bench.

[bwoolf2]

Seriously? That was one of the most heartbreaking losses in awhile. Negativity is to be expected.

Negativity is fine. Saying we should fire Igor and that Watsons teams would crush this team. Calling out our ROOKIE big man etc etc is overreacting.

Ayton's lack of interior defense and intensity is concerning. BW posted a really good stat showing Ayton is giving up 71%fg at the rim, which is worst in the NBA by a center. I dont blame people at all for calling it out.

the coach should know that information and sub him out Offense for Defense at the end of games

[MrMiyagi]

He's given him 14 minutes on the court. He's given Anderson 237. I think we can draw conclusions on one of those, and it isn't Bender.

And Bender at least TRIES on defense. Anderson is old enough to know that he's not good or even average even when he tries, so he doesn't.

I *try* harder than any NBA player you have ever seen. I'm 5' 8". I *try* like crazy. I have to play hard or I get clowned. I'm small and slow. I'm Jared Dudly and Dellavadova, minus 8 inches.

But trust me, you don't want me on the Suns.

Trying is nice and all. But Bender is a 100% scrub. Im sorry.

Anderson is currently WORSE than Bender was last season by just about every metric. Even if Bender regressed, he'd be about the same as Anderson. Bender actually got a tiny bit better between his rookie year and his sophomore season. Let's at least see if he made even a minuscule improvement.