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KGdaBom wrote:Stanford wrote:You guys will love Covington, but Dario isn't likely to come over for another 3 or 4 years, if at all. You'll probably be left holding his rights and seeing no return.
What the hell are you talking about?
PharmD wrote:KGdaBom wrote:akeefe03 wrote:I can't wait to watch this team now. I really hope Dario starts over Taj. Funny how things change so fast.
Both are very good players. Wolves need to trade Gibson now if they can. We can't have those two fighting for the minutes.
Taj probably more likely to be bought out than traded.
shrink wrote:Truebiscuit wrote:AirP. wrote:
Markkanen wasn't proven at all, LaVine was coming off a major injury and Dunn... more then half this board hated the pick/player it seemed.
You now have your PF of the future, and your 3&D guy.... and with Bayless(when he's back), you can move Teague now too.
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You would trade Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and a 2nd round pick?
I hate people that think this is a direct comparison,
First, nobody new how players would increase or decline at the time of the trade.
Second, MIN traded for two years of Butler. MIN is trading ONE year of Butler.
KGdaBom wrote:PharmD wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Both are very good players. Wolves need to trade Gibson now if they can. We can't have those two fighting for the minutes.
Taj probably more likely to be bought out than traded.
No Reason to buy out a VERY GOOD player like Taj.
Stanford wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Stanford wrote:You guys will love Covington, but Dario isn't likely to come over for another 3 or 4 years, if at all. You'll probably be left holding his rights and seeing no return.
What the hell are you talking about?
We've been waiting for him to come over since Hinkie drafted him over Doug McDermott.
Wingman wrote:I am happy with the deal at this point but we definitely paid more than this to get Jimmy. It was a gamble that we lost. That will happen, glad we took the chance
Domejandro wrote:Is Dario going to regain his magic?
Truebiscuit wrote:shrink wrote:Truebiscuit wrote:
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You would trade Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and a 2nd round pick?
I hate people that think this is a direct comparison,
First, nobody new how players would increase or decline at the time of the trade.
Second, MIN traded for two years of Butler. MIN is trading ONE year of Butler.
I'm a Bulls fan man, for me it's apples to apples.
Sign5 wrote:Yea not happening, I expected a better retort but what do I expect from realgm(ers) in 2025. Just quote and state things that lack context, then repeat the same thing over and over as if something new and profound was said. Just lol.
Kuwolves12 wrote:You can really tell by this trade who understands basketball and watches it compared to the people who are only fans of one team and maybe know 15 players in the league. This is an absolute homerun trade for Min. We are a MUCH better team today than we were yesterday and are set up a ton better for the future. Never expected to do this well for butler. Awesome trade
Neeva wrote:And yet philly felt they needed a better wing defender, covington every game I watch Philly is a non factorKGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:Right are covington and saric going to pull a sabonis and oladipo? I really do not see it at all, certainly not under Thibs.
Those are two of the top 60 players in the league on incredibly team friendly deals. You hated Butler and now you hate the incredibly good trade we got for him. RoCo is first team All NBA defender.
Ugly Duckling wrote:Here's a somewhat non-biased, objective perspective. Saric is a beast. You guys will be happy for years with him. Taj is starting to decline, so you needed a 4. Covington is an elite defender, but overpaid because he was shooting lights out before inking that extension. You had to take the hit there in order to get a young Saric for prime Butler. Philly has a slight edge, especially since you essentially traded Markkanen, LaVine and Dunn for Saric and Covington, but Butler wanted out. All in all, I think Thibs got a decent return. Butler doesn't have many more elite years in the tank and the last couple of the supermax will be overpays
Stanford wrote:Domejandro wrote:Is Dario going to regain his magic?
Yes, he is. One thing you're going to learn is that Dario feels obligated to play for his national team every single offseason. That means he always comes into a season looking tired and then slowly gets it back as the season progresses. The past two games have looked encouraging.
This alone makes me feel better today than yesterdayKing Ken wrote:Rose is the happiest with this deal. They will just PnR to death with Towns
Truebiscuit wrote:AirP. wrote:Truebiscuit wrote:
Really? **** man, I'm thrilled we got LaVine, Markkanen and Dunn out of our deal!
Markkanen wasn't proven at all, LaVine was coming off a major injury and Dunn... more then half this board hated the pick/player it seemed.
You now have your PF of the future, and your 3&D guy.... and with Bayless(when he's back), you can move Teague now too.
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You would trade Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and a 2nd round pick?
Truebiscuit wrote:AirP. wrote:Truebiscuit wrote:
Really? **** man, I'm thrilled we got LaVine, Markkanen and Dunn out of our deal!
Markkanen wasn't proven at all, LaVine was coming off a major injury and Dunn... more then half this board hated the pick/player it seemed.
You now have your PF of the future, and your 3&D guy.... and with Bayless(when he's back), you can move Teague now too.
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You would trade Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and a 2nd round pick?
Saric started crappy, but has been the Saric of the second half of last year recently. I'm not concerned at all.Domejandro wrote:Stanford wrote:Domejandro wrote:With his play this season, you would essentially think as much.
Good dealing, if Jimmy Butler cleans up his act, you guys will think he is awesome; he was for us before all of this nonsense happened.
I'm curious about the board dynamics. Were there 'Team Butler' and 'Team Kat' camps, before and after the trade?
Kind of, at first I was kind of in the middle, but after hearing of his back-stage antics (it got out of control, I can't wait until it gets fully leaked so we all can learn how bad it really got), along with him starting to throw games, it got out of control and I became pretty anti-Jimmy. Some people agree with Jimmy's perspective, but dislike how everything went down. More people were "Team KAT", which is expected given the trade, but I think everybody was ready for the trade to happen, even with our disagreements.
Is Dario going to regain his magic? I have watched a lot of Philadelphia this year and am really concerned about him, he looks pretty lost. Is part of that because there were too many cooks in the kitchen and he just couldn't get in rhythm?
ProcessTrusta wrote:Covington and Saric will be popular players in Minnesota. They are hard working guys who make sacrifices for the betterment of the team. Neither are stars, obviously, but are good quality players. Covington is a very good defender who can shoot the 3. Not going to put the ball on the floor much or attack the rim, makes dumb mistakes at times, and his shooting is inconsistent. He will have months where he is red hot from downtown, and then have a month where he is ice cold. That's what frustrated Sixers fans. But he plays hard every night, always brings it on D, and doesn't play scared.
Saric is a smart player. Crafty around the rim. Solid shooter, not a great one(though he's been bad this season). It will improve when he gets his legs under him. Willing defender, can hit from mid range. Is a great locker room guy, very good passer.
You'll enjoy watching them.
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