Jimmy Butler Traded to Philadelphia (Discussion Continued)

_AIJ_ · Post #81 » by **_AIJ_** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:13 pm

Yes!!!!!

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T-wOlvEs 420 · Post #82 » by **T-wOlvEs 420** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:13 pm

Stanford wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Stanford wrote:You guys will love Covington, but Dario isn't likely to come over for another 3 or 4 years, if at all. You'll probably be left holding his rights and seeing no return.

What the hell are you talking about?

We've been waiting for him to come over since Hinkie drafted him over Doug McDermott.

Lmao!!!

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KGdaBom · Post #83 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:14 pm

Stanford wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Stanford wrote:You guys will love Covington, but Dario isn't likely to come over for another 3 or 4 years, if at all. You'll probably be left holding his rights and seeing no return.

What the hell are you talking about?

We've been waiting for him to come over since Hinkie drafted him over Doug McDermott.

You are insane, but making me LMAO. Saric was amazing for you last year.

Neeva · Post #84 » by **Neeva** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:14 pm

Two complimentary players just don’t excite me. I wanted a potential break out star to pair up with Kat or at least a decent draft pick thrown in with those complimentary role players.

KGdaBom · Post #85 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:15 pm

Neeva wrote:Two complimentary players just don’t excite me. I wanted a potential break out star to pair up with Kat or at least a decent draft pick thrown in with those complimentary role players.

Two top 60 players in the NBA. Both young on GREAT CONTRACTS. We did amazing.

Truebiscuit · Post #86 » by **Truebiscuit** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:15 pm

AirP. wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Markkanen wasn't proven at all, LaVine was coming off a major injury and Dunn... more then half this board hated the pick/player it seemed.

You now have your PF of the future, and your 3&D guy.... and with Bayless(when he's back), you can move Teague now too.

I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You would trade Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and a 2nd round pick?

Oh... you want to use hindsight. Gotcha!

Do I believe Teague/Rose, Wiggins, Covington, Saric/Gibson, Towns is better then Teague/Dunn, LaVine, Wiggins, Gibson, Towns, yes I do. People complete forget there's only 1 basketball on the court and defense comes into play also.

LaVine is a scorer on a bad team... I'd be ok with him as a scoring 6th man, not so much as a starter.

You also need to calculate in not being on year 15 of no playoffs.

The ceiling of this team has just dropped with this Butler trade, a good .500 or a little above .500 team is in the future for this franchise now.

No, I want to use reality and facts.

Could you answer my question with a yes or no, please?

AirP. · Post #87 » by **AirP.** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:15 pm

Read on Twitter

Loyal[]Wolf · Post #88 » by **Loyal[]Wolf** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:15 pm

I just hope Saric will start over Taj in the near future.

KGdaBom · Post #89 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:16 pm

PharmD wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
PharmD wrote:Taj probably more likely to be bought out than traded.

No Reason to buy out a VERY GOOD player like Taj.

no reason not to buy out an old, not part of the future, expiring contract, not very good player like Taj.

Very good player.

_AIJ_ · Post #90 » by **_AIJ_** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:16 pm

I always say bad things about Saric. Not anymore! Welcome to Minny boys!

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Inspectah Tech · Post #91 » by **Inspectah Tech** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:16 pm

Was kind've hoping we would get a first round pick even if it was lottery protected but even without it I don't mind this trade

KGdaBom · Post #92 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:16 pm

Domejandro wrote:
Stanford wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:What the hell are you talking about?

We've been waiting for him to come over since Hinkie drafted him over Doug McDermott.

I am just glad this will stop you delusional Philadelphia fans from telling everyone that he is going to come to play in the NBA for you guys. Big power-play by Dario to force Philadelphia's hand like this, it is crazy how everyone is just forcing their way to Minnesota nowadays. Really makes us feel like big-game players.

Best post of the month.

Truebiscuit · Post #93 » by **Truebiscuit** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:17 pm

shrink wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
shrink wrote:I hate people that think this is a direct comparison,

First, nobody new how players would increase or decline at the time of the trade.

Second, MIN traded for two years of Butler. MIN is trading ONE year of Butler.

I'm a Bulls fan man, for me it's apples to apples.

So what would you trade me for Eddy Curry today? Do you think trade value changes over time?

That would be apples to apples. This isn’t about fan loyalty.

What? Eddy Curry has been out of the league for 5 years.

The Bulls' Butler deal with Minnesota occurred a year ago :lol:

SO_MONEY · Post #94 » by **SO_MONEY** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:18 pm

With where this team is you know you screwed up when a 27 y/o (good) role player is a key piece. Needed at least a first. And I still wouldn't love it. Out of all the "rumored" deals this was my least favorite (and that assumed a first).

The right thing to do is clean house. Trade Taj, Tolliver, Tyus, Rose, Teauge ect... With this deal one that's aims seem to be to stick us in mediocrity I doubt we will do that right either. Winning a couple of games is more important than our future. Why can't we just do the right thing for once?

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Ugly Duckling · Post #95 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:18 pm

AirP. wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Markkanen wasn't proven at all, LaVine was coming off a major injury and Dunn... more then half this board hated the pick/player it seemed.

You now have your PF of the future, and your 3&D guy.... and with Bayless(when he's back), you can move Teague now too.

I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You would trade Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn for Robert Covington, Dario Saric, and a 2nd round pick?

Oh... you want to use hindsight. Gotcha!

Do I believe Teague/Rose, Wiggins, Covington, Saric/Gibson, Towns is better then Teague/Dunn, LaVine, Wiggins, Gibson, Towns, yes I do. People complete forget there's only 1 basketball on the court and defense comes into play also.

LaVine is a scorer on a bad team... I'd be ok with him as a scoring 6th man, not so much as a starter.

You also need to calculate in not being on year 15 of no playoffs.

The ceiling of this team has just dropped with this Butler trade, a good .500 or a little above .500 team is in the future for this franchise now.

LOL you can't add Rose and take out Markkanen

twix2500 · Post #96 » by **twix2500** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:18 pm

Saric is a nice role player next to KAT. But some of you do not realize how Covington offense was a product of Ben Simmons. He was a low percentage player offensive who just stood at the 3 point line before Simmons. The Wolves a ball handling distributor. Is Wiggins gonna be that?

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TheProdigy · Post #97 » by **TheProdigy** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:18 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:Two complimentary players just don’t excite me. I wanted a potential break out star to pair up with Kat or at least a decent draft pick thrown in with those complimentary role players.

Two top 60 players in the NBA. Both young on GREAT CONTRACTS. We did amazing.

Saric is a top 60 player in the league? :lol:

I like your enthusiasm but I think you might be drinking the cool-aid a bit.

T-wOlvEs 420 · Post #98 » by **T-wOlvEs 420** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:19 pm

Gtfo Jimmy Butler, so happy this is over finally. I'm happy with this trade. Jimmy will be hurt soon anyway and is not worth a max that will pay him till he's 34 or 35.

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Ugly Duckling · Post #99 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:19 pm

twix2500 wrote:Saric is a nice role player next to KAT. But some of you do not realize how Covington offense was a product of Ben Simmons. He was a low percentage player offensive who just stood at the 3 point line before Simmons. The Wolves a ball handling distributor. Is Wiggins gonna be that?

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Rose

_AIJ_ · Post #100 » by **_AIJ_** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:20 pm

Gibson next please

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Who won the deal?