Around the NBA (2.0), 2018-19 (Non-Celtics Talk)

[JAYZGOAT]

Given your posting history, im leaning towards option c. Also, nothing screams insecurity like running to your rivals board after a trade to argue.

If it helps you

If you don't want people to 'argue' on a forum, maybe you shouldn't spent your time on forums. It's what happens there.

And you cannot deny going after me, not a problem to me. But you're really nitpicking here.

But I understand your anger. Another team (Minnesota) to ruin your Sacramento pick prediction
And still no sign of that pick being a real asset in a trade (read: for an asset to be an asset in a trade, you need a trade).

And stop giving warnings when I haven't offended/insulted anyone please, when you go after someone in the first place.
You act like your president

Lol so you are a 76ers fan? Still recovering from that curbstomping we gave you last spring, huh? Face it: we own you and will always own you. You can't beat us and you know it.

We'll see man, Personally with the addition of Butler I got Philly>>Boston. but that's my opinion and you have yours.

[darrendaye]

Interesting to see Saric on the move - the claim has always been that he has playmaking and passing ability that have been squashed in Philadelphia.. I don't know if Minnesota is the place for those to flourish - but it wouldn't surprise me to see him dealt again. Covington is the culture/chemistry/fit piece.

Reroute to Boston

[JAYZGOAT]

I don't think people realize how bad Dario Saric has been this year. They "lost" his 30% three point shooting and his 36% FG shooting. I think they'll be fine.

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

He also always seemed to play well against us for some reason. Again, he is not a very good player, but his ability space the floor was critical for a team that lacked floor spacing to begin with. Their only shooter is Redick.

He's replaceable. And I will be back to tell you I told you so when they replace him with another shooter.

[Valid]

If it helps you

If you don't want people to 'argue' on a forum, maybe you shouldn't spent your time on forums. It's what happens there.

And you cannot deny going after me, not a problem to me. But you're really nitpicking here.

But I understand your anger. Another team (Minnesota) to ruin your Sacramento pick prediction
And still no sign of that pick being a real asset in a trade (read: for an asset to be an asset in a trade, you need a trade).

And stop giving warnings when I haven't offended/insulted anyone please, when you go after someone in the first place.
You act like your president

Lol so you are a 76ers fan? Still recovering from that curbstomping we gave you last spring, huh? Face it: we own you and will always own you. You can't beat us and you know it.

We'll see man, Personally with the addition of Butler I got Philly>>Boston. but that's my opinion and you have yours.

You are a Cavs fan. You are irrelevant.

[Valid]

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

He also always seemed to play well against us for some reason. Again, he is not a very good player, but his ability space the floor was critical for a team that lacked floor spacing to begin with. Their only shooter is Redick.

He's replaceable. And I will be back to tell you I told you so when they replace him with another shooter.

Better yet, why don't you get back to me in June when the Celtics are in the finals and you are deciding who to take with the No. 1 overall pick?

[klemen4]

No doubt Philly is better now, yes spacing and 3pt shot will be problem for them...but still they will get some FA in February when some players will reach buyout.

Simmons
Fultz
Butler
Chandler
Embid

With McConnel, Reddick, Α. Johnson...+FA

We forgot they traded for Chandler(den) in summer.

Will be a big battler in East no doubt...Tor, Bos, mil, phi, ind

[JAYZGOAT]

Lol so you are a 76ers fan? Still recovering from that curbstomping we gave you last spring, huh? Face it: we own you and will always own you. You can't beat us and you know it.

We'll see man, Personally with the addition of Butler I got Philly>>Boston. but that's my opinion and you have yours.

You are a Cavs fan. You are irrelevant.

I'll be irrelevant but you're mad. Bye now

[Valid]

We'll see man, Personally with the addition of Butler I got Philly>>Boston. but that's my opinion and you have yours.

You are a Cavs fan. You are irrelevant.

I'll be irrelevant but you're mad. Bye now

Lmfao. That didn't even make sense. That's the best you can come up with?

[VeryMuchWoke]

Btw, I'd expect Butler to stay. The Sixers post Hinkie coddle their players to a fault. Brown does this as well. Add Brand, a former player who will give Jimmy whatever he wants, and the fact that this city will seriously embrace him to the mix and I don't see him going anywhere.

He's 3rd in the pecking order with the fans. That could be a problem for an egomaniac.

[titlebound1]

Didn't Jimmy just demand a trade from Minny because he hated paying with young guys? Didn't he have the same problem in Chicago? Only difference was that Rondo was man enough to stand up to him and supported the young guys (I could be wrong about that.) Why exactly would this situation be any different? Embiid, Simmons and Fultz all strike me as either goofy or weak.

He's a good talent. But the dude is a home wrecker. I don't think this works out for them.

As it stands, they probably are better than us right now. But so is over half the league. Our ceiling is higher than any other team in the east, but we might still have to make a move.

[Iguodaladon]

The Sixers got Butler and the Raptors got Leonard. And the Celtics, well, we still have a bunch of young guys that won't amount to much.

Trader Danny has become a binkie lover. I'm shocked Danny didn't try to make an addition to compete this year. The current team isn't getting out of the second round...less talent than Toronto, Philly and Milwaukee. We are NOT and will NOT be contenders this year.

Toronto has Kahwaii who is a bonafide top 5 player, but outside of that there is still a lot of question marks about that roster with an aging Lowry and years of choking in the playoffs to answer.
Philly has Embiid and Butler as top 15 players, but Fultz is a complete unknown and without any sign of a jumper it is hard to see what Simmons future looks like.
Milwaukee has Giannis who is an MVP candidate and Middleton who is a fantastic player, but outside of that their bench is incredibly weak.

We have Kyrie, a top 20 player and someone who has proven to turn up in the biggest moments in the game, Horford who is still our cerebral, defensive force and Tatum and Brown who more than showed what they are capable of when leading the team last year. Hayward was also an All star in a loaded West just 2 years ago. That's not even mentioning bench players like Rozier, Morris and Smart.

Granted we don't look great right now, but to say we are less talented than the other teams is crazy, sir.

[JHTruth]

I don't think people realize how bad Dario Saric has been this year. They "lost" his 30% three point shooting and his 36% FG shooting. I think they'll be fine.

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

I'd trade Hayward for Saric in a heartbeat..

[La Flame]

I don't think people realize how bad Dario Saric has been this year. They "lost" his 30% three point shooting and his 36% FG shooting. I think they'll be fine.

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

I'd trade Hayward for Saric in a heartbeat..

That must be sarcasm right?

[CSL_1904]

I don't think people realize how bad Dario Saric has been this year. They "lost" his 30% three point shooting and his 36% FG shooting. I think they'll be fine.

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

I'd trade Hayward for Saric in a heartbeat..

Thankfully you're not making those decisions then

[BRUNiNHO91]

Not impressed. Stop acting like it's a huge deal.

Upgrade ? Possible.
Does it change anything for the East ? No. We are still better if our guys stop playing like G-League players.

Do you remember what Covington looked like against Boston in the playoffs? Dude was a walking bag of crap all series long. Saric had his moments but was eaten up by Al. To replace THAT garbage production with a guy like Butler is a gigantic upgrade.

This is a pretty big deal IMO. If the pieces fit and it works out or not is a topic for another day, but the move was just what Philly needed. Terrific trade.

And now they have Redick and probably Muscala in the starting five....they are terrible defenders.

Matchups are still in our favor.

Embiid was bad against Baynes and Al.
Simmons was terrible.
Butler could be a problem, but Smart and Brown can defend and give him troubles.
Fultz...what a joke.
Muscala is a soft below average PF.
Redick is one of the worst defender in the league.

Who will stop Kyrie ? Who is going to open space in their current roster ?

Unfortunately for us stacking players side by side and comparing them doesn't really work very well in the NBA or we wouldn't be 7-5 right now. Saric was a poor defender, Covington was ok..but Butler is an elite 1-3 defender. He isn't a great shooter, but he can shoot and he can score.

I'm not saying they are the best in the East or better than us. But they have significantly improved their core. Finding a few shooters to surround that core is the next problem..but that should be absolutely cake for them via trade or buyouts.

A lot of hating here in this thread for no reason. That team was going nowhere with Saric and Covington. Now they have a chance. Good for them.

[NYCelticsfan136]

The Celtics need to show they’re a contender. Right now they’re a bunch of underachieving pretenders. Very dissapointing 7-5 record. They should be no worse than 9-3.

[Marvel]

The trade makes Philly better no doubt and if we face them in the playoffs the result will not be the same. I think chemistry wise they will also be fine. Embiid and Simmons are not pansies like KAT and Wiggins.

I also think Chandler once he shakes off rust he will be huge for them come playoffs. Good trade for Philly, the East will be tougher now.

[djFan71]

Minnesota back to irrelevance after that 1 year playoff blip. I know stars never fetch what you'd expect, esp with the way Butler's been going, but man, that is a crap return. They didn't really get win-now players or picks. Kinda split the middling difference.

Good move for Philly. Would have been better if they'd been able to keep Ersan.They're kinda thin up front now, though.

[Jakeopp]

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

I'd trade Hayward for Saric in a heartbeat..

That must be sarcasm right?

Nobody is that dumb.

Right?


Right?

[Triple7]

Not to discredit RoCo and Saric, but that’s a decent upgrade.

Good news for the Celtics as now we may be able to return to underdog status as the #3-4 favorite in the east instead of the runaway #1

Bingo. Stevens and the lads seem to play their best as underdogs. Maybe this takes some pressure off the team

Yup i agree. Hope now they play hard now. They have been cocky to start the season.