Around the NBA (2.0), 2018-19 (Non-Celtics Talk)

[Homerclease]

The trade makes Philly better no doubt and if we face them in the playoffs the result will not be the same. I think chemistry wise they will also be fine. Embiid and Simmons are not pansies like KAT and Wiggins.

I also think Chandler once he shakes off rust he will be huge for them come playoffs. Good trade for Philly, the East will be tougher now.

It’s a good trade for them but the last time we saw Jimmy Butler in the playoffs he got owned by Avery Bradley. He’s just not as good as everyone makes him out to be

[Triple7]

I don't think people realize how bad Dario Saric has been this year. They "lost" his 30% three point shooting and his 36% FG shooting. I think they'll be fine.

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

I'd trade Hayward for Saric in a heartbeat..

no way!

[Iguodaladon]

I like Saric, I think he'll be even better now that he can get more of the ball and be able to exercise his facilitating chops more with the Wolves. Covington is super overrated tho; he's hailed as this 3&D god, but he was completely ineffective against our wings in the playoffs last year and his 3 point shooting seems extremely streaky. I don't think this is enough to get the Wolves into the playoffs

[Roddy]

That's one crazy clutch shot !

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[titlebound1]

The trade makes Philly better no doubt and if we face them in the playoffs the result will not be the same. I think chemistry wise they will also be fine. Embiid and Simmons are not pansies like KAT and Wiggins.

I also think Chandler once he shakes off rust he will be huge for them come playoffs. Good trade for Philly, the East will be tougher now.

I disagree. I think Embiid and Simmons are both pansies and shrink in big spots. Just because Simmons does that blank LeBron stare does not mean that he's hard. He was invisible in that series last year. Embiid gets all worked up emotionally and we've seen him get completely gassed multiple times.

[titlebound1]

And for the record...I'm not really sure it matters how "tough" the guys are that Jimmy plays with. You're going to tell me that Minny and Chicago had absolutely no tough guys that Butler respected and was willing to listen to? I don't believe that. I think Butler is just a clown and would be a prick to everyone regardless who was on the team. He would probably even try to clown someone like James Johnson

[JAYZGOAT]

You are a Cavs fan. You are irrelevant.

I'll be irrelevant but you're mad. Bye now

Lmfao. That didn't even make sense. That's the best you can come up with?

You mean after you dismissed my opinion because I am a Cavs fan? You don't deserve a legit response. You deserve some time to calm down and come to grips that the 76ers are coming.

[JHTruth]

Butler is good but one has to ask if hes such a needle mover why Minny has been so disappointing. That's a very talented young team..

[Parliament10]

Butler to the Sixers, huh.
That may make them a team to watch.

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[DoubleHappiness]

Watching the Bulls game right now. Sometimes the City jerseys don't look great in games, but I absolutely love the Bulls' City jerseys

[Braindesign]

Celtics are deeper and have Brad, but Simmons/Butler/Embid is for sure the strongest big three in the East. More talent between those three than our entire starting five to be honest.

Obviously chemistry matters. Those three might not gel well. But we have our own chemistry issues right now as well.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Given your posting history, im leaning towards option c. Also, nothing screams insecurity like running to your rivals board after a trade to argue.

If it helps you

If you don't want people to 'argue' on a forum, maybe you shouldn't spent your time on forums. It's what happens there.

And you cannot deny going after me, not a problem to me. But you're really nitpicking here.

But I understand your anger. Another team (Minnesota) to ruin your Sacramento pick prediction
And still no sign of that pick being a real asset in a trade (read: for an asset to be an asset in a trade, you need a trade).

And stop giving warnings when I haven't offended/insulted anyone please, when you go after someone in the first place.
You act like your president

What warning have I given you? Again with the complete and utter lack of reading comprehension, making **** up just to argue. Its tiring.

[pinoyceltic]

I don't think people realize how bad Dario Saric has been this year. They "lost" his 30% three point shooting and his 36% FG shooting. I think they'll be fine.

18 pts / 8 rbs / 2 asts / 8-14 from 3 in the last two games...two wins. He will be fine.

I'd trade Hayward for Saric in a heartbeat..

Hope you just forgot to put the green font on

[Taget]

Philly awfully light on shooting. How long before Butler ruins Simmons and Fultz?

Why would he ruin them? We know he is a glue player who has been a great mentor to young players such as Kris Dunn in Chicago and Wiggins and KAT in Minnesota.

We'll see what they get. Butler is a gamble. The reward can be high but he can also be a chemistry killer. Not a bad trade. They can evaluate him this season and see what he can do. They didn't really give too much for him.

[colaroaster]

to complete the cleansing thibs could be out sooner vs later

[ParticleMan]

you can argue about whether it's a smart long term move for them, going all in when your young guys are still developing and even jimmy butler doesn't put you into chip contention. plus butler isn't necessarily the sort of vet leader you like to have around, unless he does an attitude 180 which sometimes happens.

but it's nuts to think they didn't get better in the short term. they absolutely did. i mean saric and covington? nice players but nowhere in butler's category. they needed better wing play. they needed a go-to scorer not named embiid.

so it's a 4-team race in the EC -- raps, bucks, us, and philly. right now raps are blowing everyone away but they are RS champs. the bucks have the best player. philly is now legit in that group. we're maybe the best on paper but haven't shown it.

gonna be a lot more interesting in the EC than i thought this year. bring it on!

[FlatearthZorro]

you can argue about whether it's a smart long term move for them, going all in when your young guys are still developing and even jimmy butler doesn't put you into chip contention. plus butler isn't necessarily the sort of vet leader you like to have around, unless he does an attitude 180 which sometimes happens.

but it's nuts to think they didn't get better in the short term. they absolutely did. i mean saric and covington? nice players but nowhere in butler's category. they needed better wing play. they needed a go-to scorer not named embiid.

so it's a 4-team race in the EC -- raps, bucks, us, and philly. right now raps are blowing everyone away but they are RS champs. the bucks have the best player. philly is now legit in that group. we're maybe the best on paper but haven't shown it.

gonna be a lot more interesting in the EC than i thought this year. bring it on!

I think it's a win-win for both teams. Minny did pretty well considering Butler has 1 year left and will demand big time money. Phily got another scorer.

[VeryMuchWoke]

I'd rather have Josh Richardson or two Houston firsts than that package. I don't know how anyone can see this as a good deal for Minny.

For Philly I think it probably makes them better this year, unless Butler immediately clashes with Simmons or Embiid, but the guy is not going to be worth his next contract.

[SichtingLives]

I'm not thinking about the future now, no team is going to look the same in three years anyway. Three NBA years is like an irl decade. This is a great deal for Philly, dumping Roco for a real wing is exactly what the needed to do and they did it. Saric is collateral damage but so what, Bayless and a 2nd bleh. I'm not scared of them but there are now 4 other legit teams in the East that we need to be game for. I love it. We've got our work cut out for us which is more refreshing than the idea that we were going to cruise into the finals this year.

[JudBuchler]

Man I love analyzing how humans work. No better place than on a sports forum.

Narcissism at it's best. "Im right, you are wrong". Incredible what age gives a person. The majority don't even get to that point.

Hilarious though, but not shocking, and most importantly, it's sports so it's fun and games. No hurt in a fan of a team being biased.


But funny, Butler , a pretty good player, with flaws, but still a damn good player, goes on a team that can take them at least to another level of play.

Fans in here do what?

Immediately, all you get is the cons and doubts. What he will do to the young guys, how he will choke because of Avery Bradley shutting him down somewhat (injured by the way) .

If Butler somehow was traded in green you would get the following....

Butler youtube video highlights, and those same fans proclaming "Butler really isnt a bad guy, look, he does this this and this, man butler is going to be a changed man on this team because he can do this this and this"

"man butler is going to buy into the culture, horford will set him straight"



How can anyone in here not laugh at the ridiculousness of posters?

Where have those both sides of the coin people gone? That won't immediately respond to the opinion you have by telling you that you are wrong and an idiot