Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG

yoyojw17 · Post #1121 » by **yoyojw17** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:10 pm

Hmmmm..... didn't know that Bayless was included in the trade. that means they have another solid backup. Rose no longer has to start either.... therefore...... Tyus Jones might be more expendable too. Not a star level player.... but would fill in nicely if given the chance. would like to see what he turns into if given the keys.

RickB-Orlando · Post #1122 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:10 pm

drsd wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:What are you'll willing to gamble with inorder to take a chance that he bounces back?

Augustin is a great bench PG. And is actually cheaper than Fultz. Straight-up will not get it done. But I would not be unhappy with Orlando trading Augustin and their own first next year for Fultz. The pick could be top-4, but is more likely to be around 7-10 (with Augustin playing out the year). Augustin and a 7-10 range first for Fultz is a wonderful trade.

How is this a bad gamble for Orlando?

..

Given Fultz's problems, I don't think Orlando should be giving up any first round picks, unless you're talking the OKC deal. The guys is a huge risk that you end up giving up too much and he continues on his current trajectory.

That's not to say I wouldn't want to deal for him - I would and I do, because I'm not necessarily convinced he's a blow out, but I can't see giving up first round picks when we're so probably lottery bound again.

pepe1991 · Post #1123 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:12 pm

I'm so out of Fultz wagon. Guy is terrible. it's not just shooting ,he really doesn't do anything well.

RickB-Orlando · Post #1124 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:23 pm

warren4prez wrote:I’m officially jelly of Philly’s rebuild! I don’t think they gave up much for him! They was a pick Orlando had and was used to land a superstar!

There's a very good chance they can't keep him long term. Philly's taking a chance that they can actually step up and contend with him, enough to convince him to stay. I think there's at least as much if not a better chance he signs out west somewhere when given a chance.

MagicFan4Lyfe · Post #1125 » by **MagicFan4Lyfe** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:23 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I'm so out of Fultz wagon. Guy is terrible. it's not just shooting ,he really doesn't do anything well.

Agree. But he sounds a lot like our current players! :lol:

pepe1991 · Post #1126 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:26 pm

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I'm so out of Fultz wagon. Guy is terrible. it's not just shooting ,he really doesn't do anything well.

Agree. But he sounds a lot like our current players!

Watch on YouTube

MagicFan4Lyfe · Post #1127 » by **MagicFan4Lyfe** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:27 pm

RickB-Orlando wrote:
warren4prez wrote:I’m officially jelly of Philly’s rebuild! I don’t think they gave up much for him! They was a pick Orlando had and was used to land a superstar!

There's a very good chance they can't keep him long term. Philly's taking a chance that they can actually step up and contend with him, enough to convince him to stay. I think there's at least as much if not a better chance he signs out west somewhere when given a chance.

Reports are that Butler will resign with 76ers.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jimmy-butler-trade-update-76ers-to-acquire-wolves-star-in-multiplayer-deal-including-saric-and-covington-per-report/

pepe1991 · Post #1128 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:30 pm

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:
warren4prez wrote:I’m officially jelly of Philly’s rebuild! I don’t think they gave up much for him! They was a pick Orlando had and was used to land a superstar!

There's a very good chance they can't keep him long term. Philly's taking a chance that they can actually step up and contend with him, enough to convince him to stay. I think there's at least as much if not a better chance he signs out west somewhere when given a chance.

Reports are that Butler will resign with 76ers.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jimmy-butler-trade-update-76ers-to-acquire-wolves-star-in-multiplayer-deal-including-saric-and-covington-per-report/

That's why i'm against putting to much hope in FAs to get star. Half of players never hit free agency in first place . They re-sign in first hour of FA.

pepe1991 · Post #1129 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:37 pm

With Butler on East it's another allstar spot locked.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1130 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:48 pm

Saric one of the key players in the trade. Another Henny fail. . . (That was not Martins)

MagicFan4Lyfe · Post #1131 » by **MagicFan4Lyfe** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:02 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Saric one of the key players in the trade. Another Henny fail. . . (That was not Martins)

Hate that guy more and more.

MagicFan4Lyfe · Post #1132 » by **MagicFan4Lyfe** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:04 am

pepe1991 wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:
There's a very good chance they can't keep him long term. Philly's taking a chance that they can actually step up and contend with him, enough to convince him to stay. I think there's at least as much if not a better chance he signs out west somewhere when given a chance.

Reports are that Butler will resign with 76ers.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jimmy-butler-trade-update-76ers-to-acquire-wolves-star-in-multiplayer-deal-including-saric-and-covington-per-report/

That's why i'm against putting to much hope in FAs to get star. Half of players never hit free agency in first place . They re-sign in first hour of FA.

Doubt we will draft potential stars anytime soon.
Lets continue to hope Vucevic and Fournier can get us into the 8th spot for the playoffs. Thats a "championship" for this miserable franchise.

fendilim · Post #1133 » by **fendilim** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:29 am

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Saric one of the key players in the trade. Another Henny fail. . . (That was not Martins)

Hate that guy more and more.

Tbh, more concerned we passed on lavine.

pepe1991 · Post #1134 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:38 am

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:

Reports are that Butler will resign with 76ers.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jimmy-butler-trade-update-76ers-to-acquire-wolves-star-in-multiplayer-deal-including-saric-and-covington-per-report/

That's why i'm against putting to much hope in FAs to get star. Half of players never hit free agency in first place . They re-sign in first hour of FA.

Doubt we will draft potential stars anytime soon.
Lets continue to hope Vucevic and Fournier can get us into the 8th spot for the playoffs. Thats a "championship" for this miserable franchise.

lol
I don't know what's the goal tbh.
So let's say Magic somehow make playoffs this year, lose in first round and than what?
If you let Vučević go what was point of that season?
If they resign him why da hell draft Bamba in first place ?
It's just such a case of being trapped between rock and hard place

DjPuffnStuff · Post #1135 » by **DjPuffnStuff** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:06 am

pepe1991 wrote:I'm so out of Fultz wagon. Guy is terrible. it's not just shooting ,he really doesn't do anything well.

I've never really understood the hype.

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DiplomaticMagic · Post #1136 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:44 am

I'm all in for trading for Fultz.

pepe1991 · Post #1137 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:00 am

DjPuffnStuff wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I'm so out of Fultz wagon. Guy is terrible. it's not just shooting ,he really doesn't do anything well.

I've never really understood the hype.

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Looked good at college.

OrlandoDream · Post #1138 » by **OrlandoDream** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:22 am

pepe1991 wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I'm so out of Fultz wagon. Guy is terrible. it's not just shooting ,he really doesn't do anything well.

Agree. But he sounds a lot like our current players!

Watch on YouTube

I dont understand how the guy could go from dominating in college to just being so bad in the NBA. I knew the competition is different but the fall in every aspect of his game is just unreal. Ive never seen anything like it.

OrlandO · Post #1139 » by **OrlandO** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:26 am

OrlandoDream wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:
Agree. But he sounds a lot like our current players!

Watch on YouTube

I dont understand how the guy could go from dominating in college to just being so bad in the NBA. I knew the competition is different but the fall in every aspect of his game is just unreal. Ive never seen anything like it.

He tried to change his shot before he was even picked and then got injured. Now he's a total mess trying to find a shot that works for him again and probably battling some serious confidence issues as a result.

OrlandoDream · Post #1140 » by **OrlandoDream** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:30 am

OrlandO wrote:
OrlandoDream wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I dont understand how the guy could go from dominating in college to just being so bad in the NBA. I knew the competition is different but the fall in every aspect of his game is just unreal. Ive never seen anything like it.

He tried to change his shot before he was even picked and then got injured. Now he's a total mess trying to find a shot that works for him again and probably battling some serious confidence issues as a result.

He is healthy now so we know health isnt the issue anymore. Also why did he need to change? It looked fine in Washington. Its menta at this point. Look at the video of him shooting a free throw and coming nowhere near close. He is shaking and look on his face is like he isnt even mentally in the game. Its a mental case to the highest degree. Kid just is not ready for the spotlight.