GT#13: Nets @ Golden State - Saturday, 11/10/18 8:30pm EST

[Prokorov]

Warriors reserves are curb stomping this team.

I didn't expect to win this game, but getting blown out is a bit much.

why is it a bit much? the expectation for the nets playing the warriors should be a blowout. their starters are a superteam. even without klay and draymond their starters are still a superteam. their bench has as much talent as our starters. factor in the second night of a back to back after a physical game with denver.

i know we were an early .500 team, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. this team should be underdogs ina all 41 road games this year, and back to backs vs elite teams on the road should be expected curb stompings.

unreal win vs denver. will likely be our best win all year. but were still the nets and they are still the warriors.

[Prokorov]

KA needs to do the right thing...revert dudley back to a 3rd stringer..and either start faried or RHJ at pf. Stop playing games. Dudley provides next to nothing. And stop sitting Dlo so early when he's playing well. Dlo went ice cold after sitting 10-11 mins and couldn't buy a basket when he came back. KA also needs to encourage his guys to play more energetic and play harder on back to back games. we looked lethargic tonight esp in the 2nd half.

Dudley provides outstanding court spacing and high iq basketball. Faried shouldnt play he doesnt space the floor and is our worst bigman defender. RHJ should play and he is getting big minutes. he needs to start hitting threes if he is going to claim that starting spot. Levert/Russell/Allen all work much better next to a stretch 4.

if you want dudley to sit, then hope kurucs comes back soon

you think we looked tired the second night of a back to back after playing in mile high altitude in denver? year kenny should have done something about that

[Prokorov]

KA needs to do the right thing...revert dudley back to a 3rd stringer..and either start faried or RHJ at pf. Stop playing games. Dudley provides next to nothing. And stop sitting Dlo so early when he's playing well. Dlo went ice cold after sitting 10-11 mins and couldn't buy a basket when he came back. KA also needs to encourage his guys to play more energetic and play harder on back to back games. we looked lethargic tonight esp in the 2nd half.

Where were these criticisms of Kenny when the Nets won 3 in a row? You were pretty quiet.

Frankly, RHJ has not played well enough to warrant starting right now and Faried is clueless defensively. Dudley is not the answer, but until RHJ gets his head and game back together I can't advocate him starting, and I'm Rondae's biggest supporter on here. He's been flat out awful outside of the Sixers game.

In my opinion, I think Kurucs deserves to get some minutes in the rotation. His PER36 numbers are ridiculous. He needs to play and play often.

agree here, if people want dudley to sit (not sure why he is the whipping boy this year) then look for kurucs, another stretch 4 to get some minutes

[Prokorov]

Yo yall know I like the intangibles. But Faried and Kurucs stat line, say they should be playing.

Jarrett Allen and Ed Davis have played too well for Faried to see minutes. Faried's stats are also irrelevant... he has played a handful of minutes in garbage time

[MGrand15]

I wouldn't mind playing Faried instead of RHJ at center when we do that in spots but I think coaches prefer to play vets no minutes instead of sporadically giving them 3-5 minutes a game.

There's nothing to take away from this game really. Road back to back after a tough game in Denver. Would've taken a super human effort from a couple of guys to make the game competitive.

Also, I've been saying RHJ will start eventually but he really needs to earn it. Right now he's way too up and down. Even when Dudley gets no stats, he moves the ball, doesn't turn it over, talks on defense, spaces the floor. When RHJ doesn't play well, he's been a train wreck forcing up shots and turning the ball over.

I love RHJ but he needs to be a lot steadier if he wants to be a starter. Right now, his frenetic wild play seems better for the bench.

[Paradise]

Warriors reserves are curb stomping this team.

I didn't expect to win this game, but getting blown out is a bit much.

I did expect it.

The Nets were in a tough physical game against Denver that ended late. They fly out after midnight to Oakland but the actual game a 5pm start time which means these guys have to report to the arena around 2 or 3pm pacific time. Meanwhile, the Warriors haven’t played since getting blown out by Milwaukee on Thursday.

It was almost guaranteed they would run out of gas eventually. That’s why a deep bench is necessary but the bench sucks due to Crabbe, RHJ being so rusty, sloppy and slumpy.


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[Stone]

I saw some good things last night....I thought we played well in the first half. Joe Harris worked hard and had a good game. Roddy is looking like a quality player who has a high ceiling.

Gray area....Levert , did he have an off night or is he going to be disappearing in games we need him the most? Mental toughness, physical toughness...neither...IDK.......Definetly ok with giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Big Jay....I would have liked to seen him get more touches.


The bad.....RHJ, did not look prepared. Kind of like he was playing in a street game.

Crabbe......I think I could have wheeled my Grandfathers dead corpse out there and got more production.

Hopefully we walk away from this a better team and learn from competing against the best of the best..

[Claud]

KA needs to do the right thing...revert dudley back to a 3rd stringer..and either start faried or RHJ at pf. Stop playing games. Dudley provides next to nothing. And stop sitting Dlo so early when he's playing well. Dlo went ice cold after sitting 10-11 mins and couldn't buy a basket when he came back. KA also needs to encourage his guys to play more energetic and play harder on back to back games. we looked lethargic tonight esp in the 2nd half.

Dudley provides outstanding court spacing and high iq basketball. Faried shouldnt play he doesnt space the floor and is our worst bigman defender. RHJ should play and he is getting big minutes. he needs to start hitting threes if he is going to claim that starting spot. Levert/Russell/Allen all work much better next to a stretch 4.

if you want dudley to sit, then hope kurucs comes back soon

you think we looked tired the second night of a back to back after playing in mile high altitude in denver? year kenny should have done something about that

At first I didn't see it but now It's very clear that Dlo/CL/Din + Fro need a floor spacer at the 4 and when RHJ is in the spacing is horrible. He keeps getting in people's way.

I appreciate RHJ's hard worker mentality but he looks like the odd man out as of now. He hasn't improved at all from last season.

I hope he can pick it up soon because it's not looking good for him. His injury during the off-season might end up biting him in the ass.

[DarkXaero]

I'm not sure why people are so disappointed. We just played in high altitude Denver, and pulled off a big win. I expected us to to be tired, and get blown out, even with no Curry and Draymond. For us to have a chance, we would have needed both KD and Klay to have bad games, but instead, they were both on fire. Additionally, Cook basically played like Curry and torched us. And we ran out of gas in the second half.

[MrDollarBills]

Warriors reserves are curb stomping this team.

I didn't expect to win this game, but getting blown out is a bit much.

why is it a bit much? the expectation for the nets playing the warriors should be a blowout. their starters are a superteam. even without klay and draymond their starters are still a superteam. their bench has as much talent as our starters. factor in the second night of a back to back after a physical game with denver.

i know we were an early .500 team, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. this team should be underdogs ina all 41 road games this year, and back to backs vs elite teams on the road should be expected curb stompings.

unreal win vs denver. will likely be our best win all year. but were still the nets and they are still the warriors.

They didn't have Steph or Draymond so I expected a better effort, but considering they were on the tail end of a back to back there is nothing to be ashamed of.

The Nets beat two playoff teams within a week. Lets give them a bit of credit. I also doubt that Denver will be the last team to get upset by this team.

[MrDollarBills]

Yo yall know I like the intangibles. But Faried and Kurucs stat line, say they should be playing.

Jarrett Allen and Ed Davis have played too well for Faried to see minutes. Faried's stats are also irrelevant... he has played a handful of minutes in garbage time

This. I see no reason why Faried should play over Allen or Davis. Especially Ed Davis, who has been one of the best veterans on this team bar none this season.

[MrDollarBills]

I think eventually Dudley will be be 3rd string but for now KA is going for stability. I think this season was the first in awhile where we had the same starting 5 every game to start the season. Dud is obviously not starting material and I think KA is looking for the right time to make the switch and for who he actually wants to play at the 4.

RHJ looks like he's pressing. He seems to be forcing things a lot nore than he usually does. Lots of tunnel vision and out of control basketball that he mostly eliminated last season. Maybe it's because he's not the starter and is trying too hard to earn it back. Je needs to get back to his midrange game that he was money from last season. Really hope he can get back to what he qas because we need his defense, energy and rebounding.

Kurucs needs to be un the rotation. Hopefully post all star break, he takes Duds mins and comes off the bench as the stretch 4. He looks so good whenever he's on the floor. Excited to see how he develops.

He is pressing. He lost his starting job due to injury and has yet to find his way in the offense. He's under a lot of pressure tbh, if you've read about his family he's got a lot of people depending on him to pull through in a contract year.

Hopefully he can keep plugging away and turn things around, but right now if anyone should be in line to knock Dudley's 29% 3PT shooting ass out of the line up it's Rodi.

[SpeedyG]

I think eventually Dudley will be be 3rd string but for now KA is going for stability. I think this season was the first in awhile where we had the same starting 5 every game to start the season. Dud is obviously not starting material and I think KA is looking for the right time to make the switch and for who he actually wants to play at the 4.

RHJ looks like he's pressing. He seems to be forcing things a lot nore than he usually does. Lots of tunnel vision and out of control basketball that he mostly eliminated last season. Maybe it's because he's not the starter and is trying too hard to earn it back. Je needs to get back to his midrange game that he was money from last season. Really hope he can get back to what he qas because we need his defense, energy and rebounding.

Kurucs needs to be un the rotation. Hopefully post all star break, he takes Duds mins and comes off the bench as the stretch 4. He looks so good whenever he's on the floor. Excited to see how he develops.

He is pressing. He lost his starting job due to injury and has yet to find his way in the offense. He's under a lot of pressure tbh, if you've read about his family he's got a lot of people depending on him to pull through in a contract year.

Hopefully he can keep plugging away and turn things around, but right now if anyone should be in line to knock Dudley's 29% 3PT shooting ass out of the line up it's Rodi.

I can't imagine he'll take that leap. Honestly right now I like his fit off the bench. He was always a spark plug when he came in before he got hurt.

I'd lean towards Demarre first.

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[MrDollarBills]

I would out of courtesy but frankly Demarre isn't going to be here next season and Kurucs is. Kurucs is disruptive and brings energy and efficient shooting. This is really a no brainer decision, the only thing that is the downside about playing him is his age.

[NyCeEvO]

I'm not sure why people are so disappointed. We just played in high altitude Denver, and pulled off a big win. I expected us to to be tired, and get blown out, even with no Curry and Draymond. For us to have a chance, we would have needed both KD and Klay to have bad games, but instead, they were both on fire. Additionally, Cook basically played like Curry and torched us. And we ran out of gas in the second half.

Yeah, they still have a top 5 superstar (KD) and a top 15 player (Klay) on the team along with solid young players and vets coming off the bench. While our bench could give there’s a good run, KD and Klay blow our starters out of the water.


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[kamaze]

KA needs to do the right thing...revert dudley back to a 3rd stringer..and either start faried or RHJ at pf. Stop playing games. Dudley provides next to nothing. And stop sitting Dlo so early when he's playing well. Dlo went ice cold after sitting 10-11 mins and couldn't buy a basket when he came back. KA also needs to encourage his guys to play more energetic and play harder on back to back games. we looked lethargic tonight esp in the 2nd half.

Dudley provides outstanding court spacing and high iq basketball. Faried shouldnt play he doesnt space the floor and is our worst bigman defender. RHJ should play and he is getting big minutes. he needs to start hitting threes if he is going to claim that starting spot. Levert/Russell/Allen all work much better next to a stretch 4.

if you want dudley to sit, then hope kurucs comes back soon

you think we looked tired the second night of a back to back after playing in mile high altitude in denver? year kenny should have done something about that

At first I didn't see it but now It's very clear that Dlo/CL/Din + Fro need a floor spacer at the 4 and when RHJ is in the spacing is horrible. He keeps getting in people's way.

I appreciate RHJ's hard worker mentality but he looks like the odd man out as of now. He hasn't improved at all from last season.

I hope he can pick it up soon because it's not looking good for him. His injury during the off-season might end up biting him in the ass.

Rhondae's a hard worker it's just that he missed training camp when the new offense was put in place. He's learning how to play in it he'll figure it out.

[Prokorov]

Dudley provides outstanding court spacing and high iq basketball. Faried shouldnt play he doesnt space the floor and is our worst bigman defender. RHJ should play and he is getting big minutes. he needs to start hitting threes if he is going to claim that starting spot. Levert/Russell/Allen all work much better next to a stretch 4.

if you want dudley to sit, then hope kurucs comes back soon

you think we looked tired the second night of a back to back after playing in mile high altitude in denver? year kenny should have done something about that

At first I didn't see it but now It's very clear that Dlo/CL/Din + Fro need a floor spacer at the 4 and when RHJ is in the spacing is horrible. He keeps getting in people's way.

I appreciate RHJ's hard worker mentality but he looks like the odd man out as of now. He hasn't improved at all from last season.

I hope he can pick it up soon because it's not looking good for him. His injury during the off-season might end up biting him in the ass.

Rhondae's a hard worker it's just that he missed training camp when the new offense was put in place. He's learning how to play in it he'll figure it out.

what new offense?

[LOUiS-D]

I think eventually Dudley will be be 3rd string but for now KA is going for stability. I think this season was the first in awhile where we had the same starting 5 every game to start the season. Dud is obviously not starting material and I think KA is looking for the right time to make the switch and for who he actually wants to play at the 4.

RHJ looks like he's pressing. He seems to be forcing things a lot nore than he usually does. Lots of tunnel vision and out of control basketball that he mostly eliminated last season. Maybe it's because he's not the starter and is trying too hard to earn it back. Je needs to get back to his midrange game that he was money from last season. Really hope he can get back to what he qas because we need his defense, energy and rebounding.

Kurucs needs to be un the rotation. Hopefully post all star break, he takes Duds mins and comes off the bench as the stretch 4. He looks so good whenever he's on the floor. Excited to see how he develops.

He is pressing. He lost his starting job due to injury and has yet to find his way in the offense. He's under a lot of pressure tbh, if you've read about his family he's got a lot of people depending on him to pull through in a contract year.

Hopefully he can keep plugging away and turn things around, but right now if anyone should be in line to knock Dudley's 29% 3PT shooting ass out of the line up it's Rodi.

Yeah I've loved what I've seen from Rodi so far. Looks sharp as a tack. No hesitation in his decision making. Dude's hungry af.

[kamaze]

At first I didn't see it but now It's very clear that Dlo/CL/Din + Fro need a floor spacer at the 4 and when RHJ is in the spacing is horrible. He keeps getting in people's way.

I appreciate RHJ's hard worker mentality but he looks like the odd man out as of now. He hasn't improved at all from last season.

I hope he can pick it up soon because it's not looking good for him. His injury during the off-season might end up biting him in the ass.

Rhondae's a hard worker it's just that he missed training camp when the new offense was put in place. He's learning how to play in it he'll figure it out.

what new offense?

DETROIT — After being the second-worst shooting team in the NBA last season, Nets coach Kenny Atkinson has tweaked his offense to go for even more spacing. After mixed results in the preseason-opening loss to the Knicks, Monday’s 110-108 overtime win over the Pistons looked more like how he drew it up.

“Ultimate optimal spacing,” Atkinson told The Post. “It’s not just for 3s, but high-value shots: Get to the free throw line more, get it to the rim more. That spacing gives us driving lanes, it gives us rolls to the rim, lobs for Jarrett [Allen]. And teams have to close us out for drives.

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It’s new to us. I figure the more time we get to practice it, the easier it’ll be,” Russell said. “It’ll come like second nature.”

“Instead of four-out, one-in, we’re doing a lot more five-out. We have a lot more motion out of that. That does free up a lot more spacing,” Spencer Dinwiddie said. “We still have some of that four-out, one-in look. But to start, we’re trying to keep it as spaced as possible.”

https://nypost.com/2018/10/08/this-is-the-new-look-offense-the-nets-have-envisioned/

That's why Rhondae started he was the one in and why Dudley is starting it's a different offense.

“Really the change was what best fit our personnel,” Atkinson said. “I come from that vein, our whole philosophy, what fits our personnel better than what fits Kenny Atkinson best, or our staff, or [general manager] Sean [Marks], but what fits our players. That’s how I think about it.”

The offense was changed for LeVert and Russell who had another good game in the loss.