Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

closg00 · Post #341 » by **closg00** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:52 am

What thievery by the 76ers, they were able to
accomplish thx to superior talent evaluation. Philly plucked Covington from the G-League and Dario Saric was a draft and stash, they gave up nothing in the way of a major piece or draft picks.

FAH1223 · Post #342 » by **FAH1223** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:34 am

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closg00 · Post #343 » by **closg00** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:03 pm

So they didn’t want Porter, that would have been huge

I_Like_Dirt · Post #344 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:03 pm

closg00 wrote:So they didn’t want Porter, that would have been huge

Depends a bit on how you look at it. How much better than Covington is Porter? He's paid significantly more. And I'm talking current game as I doubt Thibs values potential too much, and if Porter doesn't actually have another gead those two are really close. Throw Saric in there, too, and the Wizards would need to potentially add just to match the Sixers' offer. I can see where the Beal demand came from.

closg00 · Post #345 » by **closg00** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:24 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
closg00 wrote:So they didn’t want Porter, that would have been huge

Depends a bit on how you look at it. How much better than Covington is Porter? He's paid significantly more. And I'm talking current game as I doubt Thibs values potential too much, and if Porter doesn't actually have another gead those two are really close. Throw Saric in there, too, and the Wizards would need to potentially add just to match the Sixers' offer. I can see where the Beal demand came from.

Good points

Induveca · Post #346 » by **Induveca** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:08 pm

closg00 wrote:So they didn’t want Porter, that would have been huge

No one wants Porter on that ridiculous contract.

Error Afflalo · Post #347 » by **Error Afflalo** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:00 am

We should sign Melo if Houston cuts him. Solidify the tank.

youngWizzy · Post #348 » by **youngWizzy** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:47 am

Mitchell Robinson looks amazing. He just set the knicks all time record for blocks by a rookie with 9!!! Big praise to those who said we should have drafted him. He had a lot of red flags but man was I wrong about him.

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Ruzious · Post #350 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:29 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Ruzious wrote:My favorite UDFA from the 2018 draft - Bonzi Colson - had 23 points, 16 rebounds, 1 steal and 2 blocks in his G League debut for Cleveland's team. Apparently he's recovered from the injury he had last season at Notre Dame.
HE'S BETTER THAN JEFF GREEN OR MARKIEFF MORRIS ...

But the Wizards are not the team to be proactive.

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Not just the Wiz - but no NBa team signed him. If there's ever another expansion team; you and the rest of us should run it and get the players everyone overlooks - like Colson, Christian Wood, Ajdin Penava, etc.

Post #351 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:28 pm

closg00 wrote:What thievery by the 76ers, they were able to
accomplish thx to superior talent evaluation. Philly plucked Covington from the G-League and Dario Saric was a draft and stash, they gave up nothing in the way of a major piece or draft picks.

Butler really put them in a terrible position by waiting until training camp to demand a trade. They would have gotten a much better return on draft night, or at the start of free agency. Could also have shifted how other dominoes fell league-wide (imagine Butler to Toronto instead of Kawhi).

Still, how did Minny not know that their best player absolutely hated playing for them? Even if Butler hadn't demanded a trade, I can't imagine there were any signals that he was going to re-sign with them. So trading him this offseason might have been the best option all along (a la Paul George last summer). Were they just not paying attention?

Ruzious · Post #352 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:37 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
closg00 wrote:What thievery by the 76ers, they were able to
accomplish thx to superior talent evaluation. Philly plucked Covington from the G-League and Dario Saric was a draft and stash, they gave up nothing in the way of a major piece or draft picks.

Butler really put them in a terrible position by waiting until training camp to demand a trade. They would have gotten a much better return on draft night, or at the start of free agency. Could also have shifted how other dominoes fell league-wide (imagine Butler to Toronto instead of Kawhi).

Still, how did Minny not know that their best player absolutely hated playing for them? Even if Butler hadn't demanded a trade, I can't imagine there were any signals that he was going to re-sign with them. So trading him this offseason might have been the best option all along (a la Paul George last summer). Were they just not paying attention?

Yeah, I think they actually were lucky to get Covington and Saric - both on team-friendly contracts. I think the trade helps both teams.

owneroz · Post #353 » by **owneroz** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:50 pm

Error Afflalo wrote:We should sign Melo if Houston cuts him. Solidify the tank.

Absolutely, however analysts think it would be a mistake.

payitforward · Post #354 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:00 pm

closg00 wrote:
I_Like_Dirt wrote:
closg00 wrote:So they didn’t want Porter, that would have been huge

Depends a bit on how you look at it. How much better than Covington is Porter? He's paid significantly more. And I'm talking current game as I doubt Thibs values potential too much, and if Porter doesn't actually have another gead those two are really close. Throw Saric in there, too, and the Wizards would need to potentially add just to match the Sixers' offer. I can see where the Beal demand came from.

Good points

Disagree. First off, Porter is enormously better than Covington -- & please don't argue the opposite based on this season. Look at the previous two seasons.

Secondly, we can't afford our current "big 3," so how would we afford Butler in place of Porter? Or in place of Beal for that matter?

In place of Wall, yes.

In the end, however, I would not have expected Butler to re-sign here. We don't give him a route to a title. Philly being a much better team than the Wizards does. For that reason alone, I would have preferred to trade Wall for him. I'd have been curious to know whether they'd have been interested in that possibility.

payitforward · Post #355 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:02 pm

owneroz wrote:
Error Afflalo wrote:We should sign Melo if Houston cuts him. Solidify the tank.

Absolutely, however analysts think it would be a mistake.

Ummm, did you read Error's whole post? Both sentences?

Signing Melo would seal our fate -- down the tubes to rebuild!!

Post #356 » by **nate33** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Error Afflalo wrote:We should sign Melo if Houston cuts him. Solidify the tank.

Indeed.

Trade Wall for a pick and a bad contract. Then tank the season by starting Rivers, Melo, Morris and Howard. LOL, what a disaster that lineup would be! The only problem is that Beal might actually kill himself after playing with those guys for 60 games.

Mt. Zion, here we come!

payitforward · Post #357 » by **payitforward** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:34 pm

Love it!

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #358 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:50 am

Clippers are definitely better than the Wizards. Today, the game after they beat Milwaukee, they defeated Golden State.

Lou.Williams.is.CLUTCH!!! He scored the last 10 points for LAC one game after hitting the game winner against the Bucks.

Harrell is a beast! GILGEOUS Alexander is my favorite rookie. Washed up Gortat had 12 and 6 in 20 minutes. He was +9. Another regular rotation player Mike Scott had 6 and 7 and was +6 in 16 minutes.

GS was without Curry. Durant had 33/11/10 and Klay also had over 30 in the loss.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #359 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:01 am

payitforward wrote:
closg00 wrote:
I_Like_Dirt wrote:Depends a bit on how you look at it. How much better than Covington is Porter? He's paid significantly more. And I'm talking current game as I doubt Thibs values potential too much, and if Porter doesn't actually have another gead those two are really close. Throw Saric in there, too, and the Wizards would need to potentially add just to match the Sixers' offer. I can see where the Beal demand came from.

Good points

Disagree. First off, Porter is enormously better than Covington -- & please don't argue the opposite based on this season. Look at the previous two seasons.

Secondly, we can't afford our current "big 3," so how would we afford Butler in place of Porter? Or in place of Beal for that matter?

In place of Wall, yes.

In the end, however, I would not have expected Butler to re-sign here. We don't give him a route to a title. Philly being a much better team than the Wizards does. For that reason alone, I would have preferred to trade Wall for him. I'd have been curious to know whether they'd have been interested in that possibility.

I posted about Covington when he was in the D-League. He's about 3 or 4 years older than Otto Porter. Porter is the better player. However, I haven't evaluated Porter under Scott Brooks; or, Porter vs his max deal production under current limitations due to poor coaching.

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #360 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:03 am

payitforward wrote:
owneroz wrote:
Error Afflalo wrote:We should sign Melo if Houston cuts him. Solidify the tank.

Absolutely, however analysts think it would be a mistake.

Ummm, did you read Error's whole post? Both sentences?

Signing Melo would seal our fate -- down the tubes to rebuild!!

How much worse would Washington be if Melo replaced Markieff Morris and Ian Mahinmi?

Bumps Thomaa Bryant up to backup C.

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