Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG
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So all it took was another ankle injury to turn on Isaac. Fascinating.
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Ducklett wrote:So all it took was another ankle injury to turn on Isaac. Fascinating.
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Hey if the magic want to tank let’s take on melo 

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Seems like a precaution that should have been taken a long time ago.

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Quick hypothetical: would y'all be willing to trade for Beal if it meant Dwight being included in the deal? This is likely to not happen, just asking out of curiousity. So it'd be something along the lines of Howard/Beal for Vuc/Fournier.
I would, but then again, I'd like to see Dwight retire here.
I would, but then again, I'd like to see Dwight retire here.
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WeAreVenom wrote:Quick hypothetical: would y'all be willing to trade for Beal if it meant Dwight being included in the deal? This is likely to not happen, just asking out of curiousity. So it'd be something along the lines of Howard/Beal for Vuc/Fournier.
I would, but then again, I'd like to see Dwight retire here.
I would do that and give up a first rounder if it meant getting Beal.
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WeAreVenom wrote:Quick hypothetical: would y'all be willing to trade for Beal if it meant Dwight being included in the deal? This is likely to not happen, just asking out of curiousity. So it'd be something along the lines of Howard/Beal for Vuc/Fournier.
I would, but then again, I'd like to see Dwight retire here.
I would, with the right roster.
I just dont see this trade helping us in particular. You replace arguably two of our best floor spacers for Beal, and add another nonfloor spacer in Dwight. I dont see how it helps us.
Not to mention,Dwight has been a really bad locker room presence on every team, that wont fit into the idea of WeHam of having good locker room guys on the team.

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WeAreVenom wrote:Quick hypothetical: would y'all be willing to trade for Beal if it meant Dwight being included in the deal? This is likely to not happen, just asking out of curiousity. So it'd be something along the lines of Howard/Beal for Vuc/Fournier.
I would, but then again, I'd like to see Dwight retire here.
Obviously yes.
Dwight wouldn’t keep me from doing anything regarding Beal.
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I thought he already wore ankle braces on both feet. Maybe they were just pads and not braces. I wonder if they weren't taking it seriously enough before.
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He already had them in past



Pretty much wore them whole last year, didn't really help i guess
Pretty much wore them whole last year, didn't really help i guess
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The Steph Curry braces are a little more heavy duty.


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I'm still stunned that so many NBA guys wear low top sneakers...It was always a given that you wore high-tops just for the ankle support.Ankles suck.
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GlassAnkles just needs an ankle replacement and he’ll be good!
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Would rather have Isaac out there on half an ankle than Iwundu. The guy made his first two jumpers this season and we act like he cured cancer because of how bad he is.
I can’t wait until we have a small forward and point guard that fit.
I can’t wait until we have a small forward and point guard that fit.
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j-ragg wrote:Would rather have Isaac out there on half an ankle than Iwundu. The guy made his first two jumpers this season and we act like he cured cancer because of how bad he is.
I can’t wait until we have a small forward and point guard that fit.
Id argue that Iwundu is outplaying Simmons right now and he should be getting Simms minutes when Isaac returns
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I don't think tanking is a good idea if Bamba/AG/Isaac are the core we see going forward. Winning culture trumps a 52% chance at a top 3 pick.
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trebone wrote:j-ragg wrote:Would rather have Isaac out there on half an ankle than Iwundu. The guy made his first two jumpers this season and we act like he cured cancer because of how bad he is.
I can’t wait until we have a small forward and point guard that fit.
Id argue that Iwundu is outplaying Simmons right now and he should be getting Simms minutes when Isaac returns
I agree, and it's mainly because Wes shoots a lot less. If Simms only shot 3 or 4 times a game, it wouldn't be so bad!
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Isn't it funny that Issac endorses Florida Hospital? All these ankle injuries IDK if its good or bad marketing for Florida Hospital.
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A lot of players avoid those ankle braces and hi-top sneakers because they prefer the extra mobility in their ankles. Personally, I used to wear hi-tops until a few years ago. The low-top sneakers have increasingly become more popular.
As for the ankle braces, Isaac wore them last season too. Surprised he didn't keep wearing them this season, especially after already having an ankle injury in pre-season. I don't know how much they really help, TBH. There is data out there that they prevent incidence of ankle injuries.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3213051/
As for the ankle braces, Isaac wore them last season too. Surprised he didn't keep wearing them this season, especially after already having an ankle injury in pre-season. I don't know how much they really help, TBH. There is data out there that they prevent incidence of ankle injuries.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3213051/
Background
Ankle injuries are the most common injury in basketball players. However, no prospective studies have been performed to determine if wearing lace-up ankle braces will reduce the incidence of ankle injuries in high school athletes.
Purpose
This trial was undertaken to determine if lace-up ankle braces reduce the incidence and severity of acute first-time and recurrent ankle injuries sustained by high school basketball players.
Design
Randomized controlled trial; Level of evidence, 1.
Methods
A total of 1460 male and female basketball players from 46 high schools were randomly assigned to a braced or control group. The braced group players wore lace-up ankle braces during the 2009–2010 basketball season. Athletic trainers recorded brace compliance, athlete exposures, and injuries. Cox proportional hazards models (adjusted for demographic covariates), accounting for intracluster correlation, were utilized to compare time to first acute ankle injury between groups. Injury severity (days lost) was tested with the Wilcoxon rank-sum test.
Results
The rate of acute ankle injury (per 1000 exposures) was 0.47 in the braced group and 1.41 in the control group (Cox hazard ratio [HR] 0.32; 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.20, 0.52; P <.001). The median severity of acute ankle injuries was similar (P = .23) in the braced (6 days) and control group (7 days). For players with a previous ankle injury, the incidence of acute ankle injury was 0.83 in the braced group and 1.79 in the control group (Cox HR 0.39; 95% CI 0.17, 0.90; P = .028). For players who did not report a previous ankle injury, the incidence of acute ankle injury was 0.40 in the braced group and 1.35 in the control group (Cox HR 0.30; 95% CI 0.17, 0.52, P <.001).
Conclusion
Use of lace-up ankle braces reduced the incidence but not the severity of acute ankle injuries in male and female high school basketball athletes both with and without a previous history of an ankle injury.
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JBSouthpaw wrote:trebone wrote:j-ragg wrote:Would rather have Isaac out there on half an ankle than Iwundu. The guy made his first two jumpers this season and we act like he cured cancer because of how bad he is.
I can’t wait until we have a small forward and point guard that fit.
Id argue that Iwundu is outplaying Simmons right now and he should be getting Simms minutes when Isaac returns
I agree, and it's mainly because Wes shoots a lot less. If Simms only shot 3 or 4 times a game, it wouldn't be so bad!
That doesn’t make him even an average player though. Simms is playing like the worst rotation player in the league.
Iwundu just doesn’t really provide anything except the occasional hustle, while giving virtually zero offense.
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