Romeo Langford (2019)
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He's a lot bigger and stronger than I projected him to be, and his athletic shortcomings are not as big of an issue as I thought they would be. He finishes through contact and gets shifty around the rim the same way RJ/Manu/Harden do.
If he can show improvements as a playmaker I think we're looking at a ceiling similar to Devin Booker right now.
If he can show improvements as a playmaker I think we're looking at a ceiling similar to Devin Booker right now.
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Doesn't look 6'6" to me. Reminded me of OJ Mayo. Looked like an undersized SG who can score but not a lot of much else. Though didn't have a problem with anything i saw defensively from him vs Marquette. Don't like the stroke a lot either. Like somebody mentioned earlier it isn't broke, but there is something off it seems.
All that said jury definitely still very much out. He has a lot of time to improve his game. If he's a legit 6'6" it would help.
All that said jury definitely still very much out. He has a lot of time to improve his game. If he's a legit 6'6" it would help.
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Oh I think he 6'6 in shoes no problem, legit size also, wide and heavy lower body, strong core, long arms
I have my qualms with but more related to other stuff than his measurements, to me he falls more in the mid to late teens than mid to late top10 that he is been sold as
I have my qualms with but more related to other stuff than his measurements, to me he falls more in the mid to late teens than mid to late top10 that he is been sold as
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I think he's got some refining to do with his skill-set but he's got a quality knack for the art of scoring. I think with some tweaks he'll be a plus shooter. What I like is that he can be a 2-way guy, he's not a defensive liability.
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GimmeDat wrote:I think he's got some refining to do with his skill-set but he's got a quality knack for the art of scoring. I think with some tweaks he'll be a plus shooter. What I like is that he can be a 2-way guy, he's not a defensive liability.
what I like the most about him is his frame/strength and potentially switching ability on D, the thing with him is, does he have that role player type mentality? how does he adjust to a medium usg%?
if he were taller/quicker, I'd say he can be a different iteration of Middleton, kinda, with his size he is more of a bigger Josh Hart but not sure he has the same type of game in terms of just taking what comes his way
I am pretty low on his ability to be a efficient scorer and carry a heavy load honestly, maybe he has some untapped athletic potential that I don't know of (related to an injury or whatever) but I don't know how he gets to the rim really
Seems like I am slamming him pretty hard, and not really, he is still useful, I just can't buy him that high
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I thought he had a great overall game last night. Showed some passing (baseline drive creating open three, few drive and kicks), loved his defensive positioning (especially in first half), and thought his aggressive attacks were nice. Wasn't a huge fan of a few defensive possessions and his man to man defense exposed his lack of great lateral burst...and there were a few drives I didn't like, but I was very impressed. Mostly with his defensive positioning, which was something I wanted to see.
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I have only seen his scoring clips, non of the defensive ones, although I read that some of the steals he got were bogus (?)
Not a fan of how much work he needs to get penetration, and he never gets deep, only in cuts, struggles to turn the corner, not a fast riser, I like his ability to withstand contact but he has to start the contact to early due to lack of a 1st step/pull-up threat/slow in general, and kinda ruins it for me, he has craft and touch to finish at this level, but I am not sure any of that is going to fly at the next level
I hope he falls a little, he would be so much better if he goes to a team that has offensive fire power where he can just be a complimentary wing, he just doesn't have the physical tools to go to an Orlando let's say, or Chicago, and get a huge load of shots
The most important part is going to be the shooting, period, crucial for him
Not a fan of how much work he needs to get penetration, and he never gets deep, only in cuts, struggles to turn the corner, not a fast riser, I like his ability to withstand contact but he has to start the contact to early due to lack of a 1st step/pull-up threat/slow in general, and kinda ruins it for me, he has craft and touch to finish at this level, but I am not sure any of that is going to fly at the next level
I hope he falls a little, he would be so much better if he goes to a team that has offensive fire power where he can just be a complimentary wing, he just doesn't have the physical tools to go to an Orlando let's say, or Chicago, and get a huge load of shots
The most important part is going to be the shooting, period, crucial for him
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Fischella wrote:I have only seen his scoring clips, non of the defensive ones, although I read that some of the steals he got were bogus (?)
Not a fan of how much work he needs to get penetration, and he never gets deep, only in cuts, struggles to turn the corner, not a fast riser, I like his ability to withstand contact but he has to start the contact to early due to lack of a 1st step/pull-up threat/slow in general, and kinda ruins it for me, he has craft and touch to finish at this level, but I am not sure any of that is going to fly at the next level
I hope he falls a little, he would be so much better if he goes to a team that has offensive fire power where he can just be a complimentary wing, he just doesn't have the physical tools to go to an Orlando let's say, or Chicago, and get a huge load of shots
The most important part is going to be the shooting, period, crucial for him
The one steal that I have in my notes was him doing a meh (at best) job getting through a screen (which was odd, because he did a solid job the rest of the game), slowing down a bit, ball tipped, and basically landed in his hands. Completely agree with the middle paragraph, but there was one play where I saw a bit more wiggle.
https://streamable.com/3nts5 -- this is the steal clip I was talking about.
Also agree on the third and fourth paragraphs, BUT BUT BUT I think he MIGHT be able to be a secondary player on a well rounded team (so probably a third option, really). However, as you said, the key to him unlocking his potential is his jumper. Not a huge fan of the form - slow, cockback (wrist flexibility looks to be insane), and seems to be more two-handed than one / 1.5.
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I think his ceiling is like something in between Josh Hart and Khris Middleton, that's a good player no doubt, again, def top20 guy for me, can't buy higher just yet until we see what he has for a jumper for real
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I am Hoosier Alum and have watched him closely... not to impressed. Like his D ability and switchability.
See more as a 8-12 pick. Could be a solid starter. Like the better Josh Hart comp. IMO his shot and his D will determine how much value he has to a team's winning.
See more as a 8-12 pick. Could be a solid starter. Like the better Josh Hart comp. IMO his shot and his D will determine how much value he has to a team's winning.
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Yeah, he defintely needs to show the jumper to enter any top 10, and the playmaking ability he has been so high praised with.
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Chi town wrote:I am Hoosier Alum and have watched him closely... not to impressed. Like his D ability and switchability.
See more as a 8-12 pick. Could be a solid starter. Like the better Josh Hart comp. IMO his shot and his D will determine how much value he has to a team's winning.
I have just about the opposite take: not an Indy alum, haven't watched him closely, and somewhat impressed by what I see in two games. I'm looking for a longterm sg next to Trae and he fits the bill as a two way player so far.
He's the man at Indiana, with the weight of that states expectations on him. That should prepare him for "the moment" as opposing teams will key in on him first. If he produces while playing under those circumstances, he's a guy I'll highly consider with the Mavs pick.
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CP War Hawks wrote:Chi town wrote:I am Hoosier Alum and have watched him closely... not to impressed. Like his D ability and switchability.
See more as a 8-12 pick. Could be a solid starter. Like the better Josh Hart comp. IMO his shot and his D will determine how much value he has to a team's winning.
I have just about the opposite take: not an Indy alum, haven't watched him closely, and somewhat impressed by what I see in two games. I'm looking for a longterm sg next to Trae and he fits the bill as a two way player so far.
He's the man at Indiana, with the weight of that states expectations on him. That should prepare him for "the moment" as opposing teams will key in on him first. If he produces while playing under those circumstances, he's a guy I'll highly consider with the Mavs pick.
I could see him next to Trae. Potentially a good fit.
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Fischella wrote:I think his ceiling is like something in between Josh Hart and Khris Middleton, that's a good player no doubt, again, def top20 guy for me, can't buy higher just yet until we see what he has for a jumper for real
Middleton is likely an all-star this year and Josh Hart is only in his second year so his prime is still ahead of him, but who is to say he won’t be an all-star in his career? I’m just saying that’s not a bad mix to be and is still a top 10 pick. Plus he’s still only a freshman. Did you know Josh Hart when he was a freshman? What about Middleton? What’s impressive is his skill at his age. It’ll only get better. He has a craftiness to his game I really appreciate, he thinks the game and I think that goes a long way. It’s an old school way of playing and if he somehow made his way to the Spurs, watch out. The Spurs would turn him into a superstar.
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doordoor123 wrote:Fischella wrote:I think his ceiling is like something in between Josh Hart and Khris Middleton, that's a good player no doubt, again, def top20 guy for me, can't buy higher just yet until we see what he has for a jumper for real
Middleton is likely an all-star this year and Josh Hart is only in his second year so his prime is still ahead of him, but who is to say he won’t be an all-star in his career? I’m just saying that’s not a bad mix to be and is still a top 10 pick. Plus he’s still only a freshman. Did you know Josh Hart when he was a freshman? What about Middleton? What’s impressive is his skill at his age. It’ll only get better. He has a craftiness to his game I really appreciate, he thinks the game and I think that goes a long way. It’s an old school way of playing and if he somehow made his way to the Spurs, watch out. The Spurs would turn him into a superstar.
Middleton was a tough shot-maker early on, has way better physical tools than Romeo
I said ceiling also, not sure how likely that is, his shooting is nowhere near those guys esp Khris'
He has no path towards superstardom, like none
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Fischella wrote:doordoor123 wrote:Fischella wrote:I think his ceiling is like something in between Josh Hart and Khris Middleton, that's a good player no doubt, again, def top20 guy for me, can't buy higher just yet until we see what he has for a jumper for real
Middleton is likely an all-star this year and Josh Hart is only in his second year so his prime is still ahead of him, but who is to say he won’t be an all-star in his career? I’m just saying that’s not a bad mix to be and is still a top 10 pick. Plus he’s still only a freshman. Did you know Josh Hart when he was a freshman? What about Middleton? What’s impressive is his skill at his age. It’ll only get better. He has a craftiness to his game I really appreciate, he thinks the game and I think that goes a long way. It’s an old school way of playing and if he somehow made his way to the Spurs, watch out. The Spurs would turn him into a superstar.
Middleton was a tough shot-maker early on, has way better physical tools than Romeo
I said ceiling also, not sure how likely that is, his shooting is nowhere near those guys esp Khris'
He has no path towards superstardom, like none
You can’t underestimate how a player thinks, work ethic and craftiness.
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Any recent thoughts on this kid? Isn't his shot supposed to be good?
Otherwise, his offensive game looks solid, no?
Otherwise, his offensive game looks solid, no?
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Capn'O wrote:Any recent thoughts on this kid? Isn't his shot supposed to be good?
Otherwise, his offensive game looks solid, no?
The thing that stands out with his game for me is how in control he looks. Never seems to be sped up and makes good decisions for the most part. Not an explosive athlete but serviceable for the wing because of his size. Really understands how to move without the ball, cuts really well, rebounds well too.
The jumper is the main concern right now only shooting a horrible 22% on 3.7 ATTS. He shoots 68% at the line so he should be a little better than 22%. He is their primary initiator for the most part so maybe a more secondary role with more spot ups will help him raise the %.
His jumpshot doesn't look broken, I just think if he takes better shots he will make more (what a crazy idea!). His current role doesn't really let him play more off ball though.
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Capn'O wrote:Any recent thoughts on this kid? Isn't his shot supposed to be good?
Otherwise, his offensive game looks solid, no?
Had a good game tonight. 18/11/5 with 2 blocks.
He (along with Little) are the top 2 guys in my 'will be a lot better as an NBA player' category. People soured a bit on him because he lacks that explosive first step but he's a smooth athlete in my opinion and always moves with a purpose/deliberately. He's got good length, is strong, can playmake and defend. I think he's a legitimate top 12 guy in this draft.
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