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Post#1821 » by BeesWax » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:46 am

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How much do you think the team would be hurt by the absence of Marvin Williams? As long as Bridges and MKG are healthy I don't think we'd miss a beat. We would be fine if Gallinari misses time.

I think they would miss his presence massively if there is nothing to replace him. He provides leadership and has played well at times. I also don't think you can get him for only Marvin which is why this hurts so bad. Also in order to trade Marvin for him you have to include Lamb or Parker who we cannot afford to lose for a guy who would miss so much time.


Marvin and Frank is enough to match Gallinari's salary, no need to send anyone else out.

Not unless we take on enough salary to go into the luxury tax I don't think. I would doubt they would go into the tax for a guy who may or may not play day to day.
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Post#1822 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:21 am

yosemiteben wrote:Trade board proposal - Marv for Brandon Knight + HOU 2019 1st

I'd be interested

Ditto, though I would feel better if there was some kind of trade after that to get rid of the PG jam that would ensue.
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Post#1823 » by Teal25 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:22 am

yosemiteben wrote:Trade board proposal - Marv for Brandon Knight + HOU 2019 1st

I'd be interested

I’ll do it. Knight stinks but he might show something in his contract year + Houston pick will be in the early 20s this year.
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Post#1824 » by HornetJail » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:47 am

if we can trade Knight to a third team that can give us anything other than weak center or a short combo guard... sure
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Post#1825 » by LofJ » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:04 am

BizGilwalker wrote:if we can trade Knight to a third team that can give us anything other than weak center or a short combo guard... sure


Kent Bazemore?
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Post#1826 » by HornetJail » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:41 am

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BizGilwalker wrote:if we can trade Knight to a third team that can give us anything other than weak center or a short combo guard... sure


Kent Bazemore?

no way ATL would trade Bazemore for Knight, would they? Both contracts suck but Baze is worth the few extra mil for sure
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1827 » by Diop » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:23 am

Sac fan offered Zbo and Skal for Batum, with their cap space absorbing the $ difference.

we would finally have a big who won't get bullied but we would also save about $20 mill for next year.
not sure how we would work our starting 5 though.

i havent even seen Zbo for a while, he hasn't played a minute this year although his stats weren't terrible last year.
2nd Kings fan wanted McLemore included instead of Skal, its about the $ really, so it doesn't change much to me.
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Post#1828 » by HornetJail » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:36 pm

Diop wrote:Sac fan offered Zbo and Skal for Batum, with their cap space absorbing the $ difference.

we would finally have a big who won't get bullied but we would also save about $20 mill for next year.
not sure how we would work our starting 5 though.

i havent even seen Zbo for a while, he hasn't played a minute this year although his stats weren't terrible last year.
2nd Kings fan wanted McLemore included instead of Skal, its about the $ really, so it doesn't change much to me.

I'm not a huge fan of dumping a legit contributor in Kemba's contract year, but I think we have to do this if it's offered. Getting out of his contract without giving anything up is probably the best case scenario.
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Post#1829 » by Benjamin Linus » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:02 pm

I think the return in both of those Houston and Sacramento trades are too good to pass up IMO. I think there's something there if you combine the trades. We could send those expirings, that Houston first and our first elsewhere for a pretty good player in return.
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Post#1830 » by Teal25 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:00 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:I think the return in both of those Houston and Sacramento trades are too good to pass up IMO. I think there's something there if you combine the trades. We could send those expirings, that Houston first and our first elsewhere for a pretty good player in return.

Exactly a good way to rebuild without tanking. At the end of the day we are the only team that can offer Kemba 5 years. Getting out of Batum’s contract and getting a pick in the early 20s for Marv could defintely help us. I can’t see the Kings taking Batum without any draft picks though. If they do even better for us.
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Post#1831 » by SeanBobcats » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:15 pm

If we can find a way to turn Batum into a two year deal instead of three without giving up assets, that would be great. I think doing the same with Cody may be smart, but the problem is what reliable 5 man do we have then? Which is why I’ve been saying we should be going strong after dedmon.

We could maintain flexibility to give Kemba his big deal this offseason and then potentially have space to acquire a second guy during the 2019-2020 season trading expirings or use that space during the free agency. I think managements goal has to be to build one of the top teams in the east by the 2020-2021 season, where the league could be a lot more open with a greater amount of parity.
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Post#1832 » by JDR720 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:32 pm

Nic for Ryan Anderson and Daniels.

Take a year off Nics deal and Daniels and Anderson would become our 2nd and 3rd best 3pt shooters.
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Post#1833 » by Eoghan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:03 am

Trade Marvin and Batum for something, anything at this point. Throw Zeller in too.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1834 » by Rich4114 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:49 pm

Marvin Williams + Frank Kaminsky + top 10 protected 1st for Draymond Green!

What this team lacks mostly is toughness and rebounding. What GS lacks is locker room glue. Marvin's wide open three point misses won't hurt us too bad and he doesn't do much in any other category anyway but someone like Draymond instantly becomes a leader and will demand the rest of this team performs. I know it's risky (and not sure GS would even go for it) but if they would go for it, right now would be the time to strike.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1835 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:52 pm

Suns
Batum
Biz
Devonté

Hornets
T.J. Warren
Ryan Anderson
Troy Daniels

Kemba
Lamb
Warren
Anderson
Cody

Parker/Monk
Monk/Daniels
Miles/Bacon
MKG/Marvin
Willy/Frank

Suns get their PG.
Hornets upgrade 2 starting spots
Hornets lose Devonté but add a breakout candidate in Warren
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Post#1836 » by Radu_Hornets » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:50 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Suns
Batum
Biz
Devonté

Hornets
T.J. Warren
Ryan Anderson
Troy Daniels

Kemba
Lamb
Warren
Anderson
Cody

Parker/Monk
Monk/Daniels
Miles/Bacon
MKG/Marvin
Willy/Frank

Suns get their PG.
Hornets upgrade 2 starting spots
Hornets lose Devonté but add a breakout candidate in Warren


Man, not Devonté, I want to see him mature behind Parker and see what it gives us in a couple of years.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1837 » by stinger14 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:04 pm

Batum, Marvin, and top 10 protected 1st to the Suns for Ryan Anderson and Trevor Ariza
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Post#1838 » by Teal25 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:12 pm

stinger14 wrote:Batum, Marvin, and top 10 protected 1st to the Suns for Ryan Anderson and Trevor Ariza

I would do it but lottery protected protection but this doesn’t help Phoenix at all. They need a point guard.
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Post#1839 » by bravor » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:55 pm

If a deal not involving picks that would send Batum anywhere can be reached, Hornets should do it. But not at the cost of a 1st pick - especially if Kupchak is really good during the draft - or for a real upgrade on the court (i had suggested Hill/filler for batum+sweetener on trade forum not so long ago).
Houston could easily be a good opportunity if they really waive KA and if they can't get Ariza or alike. If some kings fans are not hostile to a deal for Batum, that says it all about how he is still seen across the league. And right now, and unlike last two years, Batum is not responsible for this team's losses, at worst he is a non factor.

Trading him for scrubs does not move the needle to convince Kemba to stay here on a relative discount. In a few weeks there will be even more opportunities (like Bradley..). If somehow you can insert say guys like Bradley, either vucevic (but guy is on contract year unfortunately and he's playing like there is no tomorrow) or R. Lopez (much more reasonable target and great guy) while keeping a core of Kemba-mkg-Miles-Cody, things would look much better imo. And it's not out of reach.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 

Post#1840 » by amcoolio » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:16 pm

Looks like Draymond Green is available, not sure how well he will do outside of the Warriors system though. Probably still an upgrade over Marv.

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