Trade Ideas, AKA Please God Bring Us Shooters

Dn4sty · Post #261 » by **Dn4sty** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:46 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Trading for a PF makes little to no sense because any guy you bring in is still going to be behind Grant in the depth chart.

I think there are minutes to be had at backup PF. Patterson has been rough. I don’t see a ton of minutes on the wing once Roberson returns (at least if he’s healthy). The only places minutes would seemingly be available are at backup PF.

Post #262 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:19 pm

I still think we should buy low on Skal for next year if Patterson opts out. Yes he sucks but he’s young and can shoot the three.

Pillendreher · Post #263 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:22 pm

Knrstz wrote:I still think we should buy low on Skal for next year if Patterson opts out. Yes he sucks but he’s young and can shoot the three.

Post #264 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:38 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:I still think we should buy low on Skal for next year if Patterson opts out. Yes he sucks but he’s young and can shoot the three.

Well he’s been over thirty five percent the last two seasons. He’s deifntiely a buy low guy but he’s buried behind a million bigs.

getrichordie · Post #265 » by **getrichordie** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:58 pm

Knrstz wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:I still think we should buy low on Skal for next year if Patterson opts out. Yes he sucks but he’s young and can shoot the three.

Well he’s been over thirty five percent the last two seasons. He’s deifntiely a buy low guy but he’s buried behind a million bigs.

And he’s more athletic with higher upside than Patterson. There’s no reason to the think he won’t improve with more spacing than he’s had in the past. And he should get more open looks.

Patterson looks a year away from being last year’s Felton. How is he only 29? He looks about 35 with the way he moves.

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Post #266 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:19 am

Thoughts on offering Ferguson for joe Harris? Obviously salaries don’t work so Abrines or Patterson would need to be added.

Dn4sty · Post #267 » by **Dn4sty** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:01 am

Knrstz wrote:Thoughts on offering Ferguson for joe Harris? Obviously salaries don’t work so Abrines or Patterson would need to be added.

I always forget how TPEs work, but is it possible to have the salary difference between Harris and Ferg offset by part of the Melo TPE

Kizz Fastfists · Post #268 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:09 am

Dn4sty wrote:I always forget how TPEs work, but is it possible to have the salary difference between Harris and Ferg offset by part of the Melo TPE

Yes. They could absorb Harris into the TPE, which would basically eliminate it. A TPE can't be combined with salaries so, in theory, they could do a future 1st for Joe Harris with the TPE being how they absorbed Harris' salary and it would have the same effect on the TPE as Ferguson being traded. The question is would someone offer something better for Harris, in the eyes of Brooklyn, than Ferguson?

spearsy23 · Post #269 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:26 pm

Knrstz wrote:Thoughts on offering Ferguson for joe Harris? Obviously salaries don’t work so Abrines or Patterson would need to be added.

I think there's no chance they move Ferguson for so little. They obviously are still high on him.

Eskobar13 · Post #270 » by **Eskobar13** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:16 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Thoughts on offering Ferguson for joe Harris? Obviously salaries don’t work so Abrines or Patterson would need to be added.

I think there's no chance they move Ferguson for so little. They obviously are still high on him.

No way the Nets take Ferguson and Abrines/Patterson for Joe Harris right now.

I understand the team and a lot of you still want to see more out of Ferguson, but if he keeps playing like he has and if Harris keeps playing like he has, I would offer Ferg, Patterson and our 1st.

I really think we might have one realistic shot at a title during the Westbrook era next year and Harris would help with that.

getrichordie · Post #271 » by **getrichordie** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:31 pm

Eskobar13 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:Thoughts on offering Ferguson for joe Harris? Obviously salaries don’t work so Abrines or Patterson would need to be added.

I think there's no chance they move Ferguson for so little. They obviously are still high on him.

No way the Nets take Ferguson and Abrines/Patterson for Joe Harris right now.

I understand the team and a lot of you still want to see more out of Ferguson, but if he keeps playing like he has and if Harris keeps playing like he has, I would offer Ferg, Patterson and our 1st.

I really think we might have one realistic shot at a title during the Westbrook era next year and Harris would help with that.

Bro, what are you smoking? I need some of what you got, homie. Hook a brother up?

Ferguson has far more value than Harris to us right now. Harris isn’t nearly the defender Ferguson is and that says a lot. Ferguson still has tons of upside. We aren’t trading last year’s 1st round draft pick for Harris. Period.

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Thunder Up · Post #272 » by **Thunder Up** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:43 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Eskobar13 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I think there's no chance they move Ferguson for so little. They obviously are still high on him.

No way the Nets take Ferguson and Abrines/Patterson for Joe Harris right now.

I understand the team and a lot of you still want to see more out of Ferguson, but if he keeps playing like he has and if Harris keeps playing like he has, I would offer Ferg, Patterson and our 1st.

I really think we might have one realistic shot at a title during the Westbrook era next year and Harris would help with that.

Bro, what are you smoking? I need some of what you got, homie. Hook a brother up?

Ferguson has far more value than Harris to us right now. Harris isn’t nearly the defender Ferguson is and that says a lot. Ferguson still has tons of upside. We aren’t trading last year’s 1st round draft pick for Harris. Period.

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Harris is Klay level cash from outside, something that OKC does not have and his defense isn't that bad

Post #273 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:49 pm

There is a reason that fans of other teams aren’t proposing trades trying to acquire Ferguson. Ferguson does have a ton of upside but he may not realize that potential. His defense is improved but his shot is busted. Between Andre, Diallo and Ferguson how many athletic defenders who can’t shoot do we need? I’m not saying we should trade Ferguson. I’m wondering his value in comparison to Harris.

Eskobar13 · Post #274 » by **Eskobar13** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:54 pm

getrichordie wrote:
Eskobar13 wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:I think there's no chance they move Ferguson for so little. They obviously are still high on him.

No way the Nets take Ferguson and Abrines/Patterson for Joe Harris right now.

I understand the team and a lot of you still want to see more out of Ferguson, but if he keeps playing like he has and if Harris keeps playing like he has, I would offer Ferg, Patterson and our 1st.

I really think we might have one realistic shot at a title during the Westbrook era next year and Harris would help with that.

Bro, what are you smoking? I need some of what you got, homie. Hook a brother up?

Ferguson has far more value than Harris to us right now. Harris isn’t nearly the defender Ferguson is and that says a lot. Ferguson still has tons of upside. We aren’t trading last year’s 1st round draft pick for Harris. Period.

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Yeah, you're right bro. Must be dem greenz. gotta sober up.

Harris is not a bad defender, would probably look even better in our system and is 1000x better than Ferguson on offense right now. I understand not wanting to this now, but if we get to the deadline and Ferguson shows 0 improvement and specially if Roberson comes back by then and plays well, the team would be much better with Harris. Like a late-first better (specially with him locked up to the friendly deal for 2 years).

Plus Diallo already looks better than Ferg even though he hasn't had half the chances.

spearsy23 · Post #275 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:20 pm

Knrstz wrote:There is a reason that fans of other teams aren’t proposing trades trying to acquire Ferguson. Ferguson does have a ton of upside but he may not realize that potential. His defense is improved but his shot is busted. Between Andre, Diallo and Ferguson how many athletic defenders who can’t shoot do we need? I’m not saying we should trade Ferguson. I’m wondering his value in comparison to Harris.

His value doesn't matter, how much Presti values him does.

Post #276 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:36 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Knrstz wrote:There is a reason that fans of other teams aren’t proposing trades trying to acquire Ferguson. Ferguson does have a ton of upside but he may not realize that potential. His defense is improved but his shot is busted. Between Andre, Diallo and Ferguson how many athletic defenders who can’t shoot do we need? I’m not saying we should trade Ferguson. I’m wondering his value in comparison to Harris.

His value doesn't matter, how much Presti values him does.

I’ve not heard as many comments singing his praises since Diallo showed up.

Dn4sty · Post #277 » by **Dn4sty** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:51 am

Read on Twitter

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Not sure exactly who this guy is, other than he works for the Bucks equivalent of the Sports Animal/The Franchise

In this article he mentions OKC having interest in Korver

Kizz Fastfists · Post #278 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:56 am

If OKC doesn't have interest in Korver then they are dumber than even I give them credit for being. OKC needs shooting. Kyle Korver is a GREAT shooter. OKC should have interest. That doesn't mean OKC has, or should have, enough interest to pay whatever the asking price is for Korver.

I'm sure there is a long list of players OKC is interested in. Pretty much any shooter that is available or might become available should be on OKC's interest list. I'm just not sure who they can get given their assets. That doesn't mean Presti won't pull something out of nowhere. I don't think anyone saw Payne, Morrow and Lauvergne for Taj, McDermott and a draft pick coming.

Post #279 » by **bondom34** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:10 am

Jeez take a deep breath. The negative tone is just unbearable and you can't even have a normal discussion.

Korver would be great. Think the Melo TPE works.

Dn4sty · Post #280 » by **Dn4sty** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:13 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:If OKC doesn't have interest in Korver then they are dumber than even I give them credit for being. OKC needs shooting. Kyle Korver is a GREAT shooter. OKC should have interest. That doesn't mean OKC has, or should have, enough interest to pay whatever the asking price is for Korver.

I'm sure there is a long list of players OKC is interested in. Pretty much any shooter that is available or might become available should be on OKC's interest list. I'm just not sure who they can get given their assets. That doesn't mean Presti won't pull something out of nowhere. I don't think anyone saw Payne, Morrow and Lauvergne for Taj, McDermott and a draft pick coming.

Take some time off work, laugh a little, do something fun. You are wound up way too tight. Chill out.