Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG

[basketballRob]

He wouldn't be an expiring contract, he would be a good center locked in a team friendly deal.

And what do you do with Bamba?

Bamba is just a backup at this moment, doesn't require more than 20 minutes and as I mentioned, we can trade Vuc in a few years for a player who plays another position.

On the average Vuc only plays around 65 games per year, but part of that was the team tanking. My guess is that Bamba get a few starts before the trade deadline and they probably activate Mozgov if Vuc is out for a few games.

[MoMM]

What do you think he's been the last 4 years? Now he's only older.

If you think Vuc is going to be cheap AND also be an attractive trade asset with a new contract, then you're just wrong.

Some people here mentioned that something like 7 teams would be interested on signing him next offseason, why do you think he wouldn't be atractive piece to be traded in a few years?

Also, I never said he would be CHEAP, I expect 20mi/year and I think it's fair.

I get that you and BAMBAEXPRESS doesn't like him and I know he is not perfect, but he is kind of young and the best player in our team. Let's not pretend it's really easy to replace him and Bamba is ready. Vuc is loyal and a very constant player, that's something we can't say about any of our players (including Aaron, Bamba, Isaac, etc...).

Trading him for a late 1st round pick is a bad deal, the odds of finding someone as good as him are really low. I can see we trading him and then we drafting someone like Jerian Grant and then people complaining that Vuc is doing a great job in Boston or wherever.

Do you have any ideal trade ideas or have you not thought that far?

No, I haven't thought about specific trade ideas, but we can find some partners. For example:
- Boston has 4 1st round picks in the next Draft;
- Spurs might be interested in Simmons;
- Bucks need some presense inside, we can send Birch + our 2nd (#31) for their 1st (#27).
- Thunder might like Fournier and his outside shooting.
- Perhaps we can trade Aaron + Ross/DJ for McCollum (unlikely, but we can TRY).

[MoMM]

Honestly, I kid about resigning Vuc on here a lot but I don't really see the harm in resigning him to a 1-year deal this offseason. Im not in a particular rush to throw our 20-year-old rookie into the fire, and Vuc has taken a step forward in my eyes this year which has been unexpected but welcomed. Now is it acceptable for Bamba to log 9 minutes in a game like he did the other night? No, it's not and if we do bring Vuc back on a 1 yr deal we will really need to start integrating Bamba into the offense more next year and giving him a bigger role on the team.

Acceptable if he isn't doing ****. I think hes shown enough in small amounts to get an idea of what he can become but he needs to be a better rebounder, and his defensive fundamentals aren't where they need to be. He's still defending at the rim with his arms down. He's going to benefit so much once he adds some muscle.

Yeah on second thought, let's regulate our 6th overall draft pick to 9mpg because he "cant do ****". It's not like he needs a consistent role and steady minutes to start to figure out how to do some of those things anyways.

Let's not act like he is playing less than 10 minutes, he is playing almost 20 minutes, sometimes he will play less, sometimes more, it's part of player development.

Also, he is not ready, he was #6 pick as a project, he isn't Shaq or even D12 in year one.

[MoMM]

And what do you do with Bamba?

Bamba is just a backup at this moment, doesn't require more than 20 minutes and as I mentioned, we can trade Vuc in a few years for a player who plays another position.

On the average Vuc only plays around 65 games per year, but part of that was the team tanking. My guess is that Bamba get a few starts before the trade deadline and they probably activate Mozgov if Vuc is out for a few games.

I'd prefer to play Birch than Mozgov. Mozgov won't help us long term, let's just sit him and let him earn his money. I'd take his job (and salary) very happy

[rcklsscognition]

Despite my overwhelming support of Vucevic I want to trade him before the deadline solely for economic reasons. We need to take advantage of salary situation of having Bamba on a rookie deal and use the other money to rearrange our roster. The only issue I see is that we are currently in a dump-it-to-Vuc offense and he is excelling at it. What happens when we don't have that? What type of team do we become? It's not easy to become an entirely new team during a season but it can be done.

[trebone]

Bamba has, for his limited minutes, actually been one of the top impact rookies (at least prior to the last few games).

If we're rebuilding based on "readiness" from rookies/young players, then this is going to be a lifetime rebuild. 9/10 rookies that are put in 20-30 minute positions from the start aren't really "ready", but they're learning game to game.

Doncic is the only one that I haven't seen look overmatched in most scenarios from the jump. Even Ayton, who is putting up numbers, has long stretches where he isn't quite sure how to impact the game yet.

I don't really agree with this at all.

I love Bamba and really think he has excellent potential, but right now his NET RTG is -17.2 and his on/off is also -21.2. From an impact perspective, he's been one of the worst players in the NBA that's seeing regular minutes.

https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612753

To be fair though, he is playing on a second unit with Simms and Jerian Grant. Lebrons Net rating wouldnt look to great with our second unit either

[j-ragg]

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It's a shame he's still the player he was at Arizona

[Knightro]

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[fendilim]

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It's a shame he's still the player he was at Arizona

I like how Clifford has made the game simple for him. 50% of his shots no dribbles. And 55% of his shots are 2 seconds or less on the touch time range. Less pullups and more closer to the basket.

[CalOrl11]

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[NickAnderson]

These ankles man

[fendilim]

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I guess its Iwundu vs Lebron then.

[pepe1991]

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Hey Martins, buy 50 ankle braces, that's best for bussines.

[Orl_Magic]

Sign Melo on a 10 day contract

[pepe1991]

Sign Melo on a 10 day contract

[j-ragg]

Sign Melo on a 10 day contract

One more chucker can't hurt, we already have a roster full of em.

[OrlandO]

Sign Melo on a 10 day contract

To do what exactly?

[pepe1991]

Sign Melo on a 10 day contract

To do what exactly?

[WeAreVenom]

I gotta give AG some credit he's been balling

[SOUL]

Bamba has, for his limited minutes, actually been one of the top impact rookies (at least prior to the last few games).

If we're rebuilding based on "readiness" from rookies/young players, then this is going to be a lifetime rebuild. 9/10 rookies that are put in 20-30 minute positions from the start aren't really "ready", but they're learning game to game.

Doncic is the only one that I haven't seen look overmatched in most scenarios from the jump. Even Ayton, who is putting up numbers, has long stretches where he isn't quite sure how to impact the game yet.

I don't really agree with this at all.

I love Bamba and really think he has excellent potential, but right now his NET RTG is -17.2 and his on/off is also -21.2. From an impact perspective, he's been one of the worst players in the NBA that's seeing regular minutes.

https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612753

Isn't that specific to lineups (ie off the bench with certain players) rather than individual play though?