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cowboyronnie · Post #541 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:08 pm

Omg. Upside down tricep extension counter KO at the buzzer.

cowboyronnie · Post #542 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:13 pm

The judges really messed up if they had KZ ahead. I was worried that they would be making that mistake. I'm neurotypical so don't score fights but there is no way Yair wasn't up at least 3-2.

His defensive work was awesome. He was blocking a huge number of punches in the pocket. Clean, 100% blocks. Reflexes were crazy. But even the stupid announcers were making the mistake of calling them landed blows when you could see he was catching them. And, yeah, it looks bad when someone appears to reel backwards when struck but that's also super effective at escaping the punch's blow. It's less apparent if someone just bites down and eats a punch but those are also going to be borne by the spine and brain. It's way better to be loose and to move with the strike. Yair took very little clean over 5 rounds.

And I guarantee the judges underestimated those body and leg kicks in the early rounds. It's completely unjustified to give KZ either of those first two rounds considering how brutal those kicks were.

Almost as impressive as the insane strikes was teh defensive footwork. I cannot believe some of the escapes out of the pocket he was making. Lateral movement that you don't see from anyone else. Hopefully someone does a breakdown of that footwork.

cowboyronnie · Post #543 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:14 pm

Chas Kelly deserves a Lady Bing award or something for class after that mistaken stoppage. Truly. What a generous guy to the ref and his opponent.

MystikSpiral · Post #544 » by **MystikSpiral** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:58 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:The judges really messed up if they had KZ ahead. I was worried that they would be making that mistake. I'm neurotypical so don't score fights but there is no way Yair wasn't up at least 3-2.

His defensive work was awesome. He was blocking a huge number of punches in the pocket. Clean, 100% blocks. Reflexes were crazy. But even the stupid announcers were making the mistake of calling them landed blows when you could see he was catching them. And, yeah, it looks bad when someone appears to reel backwards when struck but that's also super effective at escaping the punch's blow. It's less apparent if someone just bites down and eats a punch but those are also going to be borne by the spine and brain. It's way better to be loose and to move with the strike. Yair took very little clean over 5 rounds.

And I guarantee the judges underestimated those body and leg kicks in the early rounds. It's completely unjustified to give KZ either of those first two rounds considering how brutal those kicks were.

Almost as impressive as the insane strikes was teh defensive footwork. I cannot believe some of the escapes out of the pocket he was making. Lateral movement that you don't see from anyone else. Hopefully someone does a breakdown of that footwork.

Still, Yair was getting hit a lot, almost everytime he tried to take control and force the action, he was forced to retreat due to Zombie hitting him 2, or 3 times...Yes he was trying to avoid damage, but it is not a good look as you pointed out. And he did take some hard shorts on the retreat as well and was visibly affected by them. He did an amazing job never letting himself get trapped, though...

He did some of his most damage trying to keep KZ at bay with attacks to the leg and body...

Personally, I would have agreed with a decision win for Zombie, had it gone to the judges.

Susan · Post #545 » by **Susan** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:56 am

I don't know him personally but shoutout to Bobby Moffett for making it to the big show and winning last night. One of my first teammates in BJJ is his manager and he's a part of Chicago BRASA. Cool to see.

cowboyronnie · Post #546 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:26 am

He definitely did not win but he definitely said, "All the featherweights in the world need to be put on notice, I'm the best fighter in the world".

REDDzone · Post #547 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:47 pm

I'm not a Cowboy fan, but seeing him with his son and grandma in the cage after that grudge match against his old team was definitely a little emotional for me. Maybe being a father now has turned me into a softy.

Also, to hit an armbar from guard on the UFC's 25th anniversary was about as fitting as it comes. Awesome moment.

Post #548 » by **spykelee** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:56 pm

I can't believe anyone isn't a cowboy fan RZ. He's one of a kind.

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REDDzone · Post #549 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:22 pm

spykelee wrote:I can't believe anyone isn't a cowboy fan RZ. He's one of a kind.

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Sorry I didn't mean it as in "I'm not a fan of Cowboy". Just more that I was pretty indifferent about the results of that fight. I think both guys are colorful and make the sport more interesting tbh, even if I don't necessarily root for either.

REDDzone · Post #550 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:15 pm

BTW Cowboy must have been cranking the sh*t out of that because Perry was pretty close to being out of that armbar positionally I think.

cowboyronnie · Post #551 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:09 pm

When cowboy ran to the cage and started pointing, I assumed it was to Wink. But, no, it was his son. He seemed to ignore rubbing it in entirely. Impressive.

Jasen777 · Post #552 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:17 am

UFC Denver draws best FS1 Fight Night ratings in almost six months

Bernman · Post #553 » by **Bernman** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:11 am

Herb Dean has MMA futures' bets against the health of fighters into their 40's. *Fight Back* (after 20 more shots, then I'll stop it). He didn't need to see Magny get ko'ed after he couldn't walk. He should lose from one or the other, not both.

I'd hate to see Herb ref one of Elkins' fights right now. He's the definition of too tough for his own good. Another fight where you felt like it would have just taken one more leg kick. Instead he got ko'ed. But can't blame that ref because Elkins was still coming forward.

You've got to be impressed with the debuts of Walker and Heinisch. Could be major problems for their divisions. I've seen Heinisch a lot. He's well-rounded, a powerful athlete, and has intangibles. Didn't know he had that kind of cardio too. Those were a lot of high energy moves. He just kept coming, against a guy who has had an underrated career like Mutante. And for Walker to just light up Roundtree on the feet who took out Saki was another statement. Can fight at distance or in close. Next he needs to answer questions about the ground game.

Slo · Post #554 » by **Slo** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:49 am

Walker was

Super impressive all the way.. behaves like a prick though, will be interesting in the future

cowboyronnie · Post #555 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:09 pm

Bernman wrote:Herb Dean has MMA futures' bets against the health of fighters into their 40's. *Fight Back* (after 20 more shots, then I'll stop it). He didn't need to see Magny get ko'ed after he couldn't walk. He should lose from one or the other, not both.

I'd hate to see Herb ref one of Elkins' fights right now. He's the definition of too tough for his own good. Another fight where you felt like it would have just taken one more leg kick. Instead he got ko'ed. But can't blame that ref because Elkins was still coming forward.

You've got to be impressed with the debuts of W

Agreed. I shut it off when I saw the combination of Herb + Magny's strategy. Magny must have had a 7-10 inch reach advantage. So push a jab w your shoulder, dont rotate your body or extend your arm, and stand straight up? How could he possibly win that fight? Conceding length, power, and the ability to change levels.

Dean must have have been able to cut diamonds with his hard on: 'Maybe tonight's the night I see a man die'.

cowboyronnie · Post #556 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:11 pm

Slo wrote:Walker was Super impressive all the way.. behaves like a prick though, will be interesting in the future

Did you see him hip bump the ref afterwards? What an ****. Then, thank Jesus.

REDDzone · Post #557 » by **REDDzone** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:53 pm

Herb sucks.

Slo · Post #558 » by **Slo** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:27 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:
Slo wrote:Walker was Super impressive all the way.. behaves like a prick though, will be interesting in the future

Did you see him hip bump the ref afterwards? What an ****. Then, thank Jesus.

Yep but there were a bunch of things that rubbed me the wrong way.. Interrupted or basically took the mic away from the spanish translator, went down on the knees to Rountree after the fight to "show respect" but then 2minutes later in the interview makes fun of him with the "i dont know what happened, i just touched him with the elbow and he went down" comment.. Might be one of those fighters you really respect their talent but always tune in hoping to watch them lose

But fighting alone, boy was he impressive.

Steelo Green · Post #559 » by **Steelo Green** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:37 pm

REDDzone wrote:Herb sucks.

Yeah not sure what happened. He went from excellent a few years ago to off his rocker.

cowboyronnie · Post #560 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:54 am

Exceptionally bad stoppage in the Blades v Ngannou fight. None of those follow-ups landed - it was actually a pretty poor ability to land anything. Glancing blows to his shoulder and chest.