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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#41 » by DayofMourning » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:50 pm

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Why not? Versatile, long wing that can handle, facilitate offense and is a smooth athlete. Iguodala probably a more explosive athlete at his peak but there strengths/weaknesses are similar.


If Iggy had been a better shooter, I could get down with that. But since he wasn't, I don't think that works well. Especially since Reddish is so reminiscent of TMac before the Hill injury forced Tracy to be the guy for his team & assert himself. Not as explosive, but the smoothness, the length, the playmaking & PG-background, the skill, and the more laidback personality; Cam just screams pre-breakout Tmac to me :dontknow:


I just think T-Mac was a much more explosive scorer than what Reddish will be at the NBA level. Iguodala isn't a good shooter you're right but I think there offensive contributions in total in terms of scoring+playmaking are a bit more similar.


In order for me to convert Cam into Andre I'd have to:

Make him smaller in stature
Increase his muscle mass significantly
Turn him into a plus, plus athlete
Make him an excellent defender
Turn him into a marginal three point shooter
Get rid of the next level touch he has on offense
Increase his aggressiveness/attacking mindset

To me, that's pretty much an entirely different player altogether.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#42 » by skiz2 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:54 pm

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paulbball wrote:Little has chances to prove himself this year.

If he can punk Zion or RJ/Cam when he guards them 1 on 1, he will rise high. Otherwise, I don't see him a franchise changing prospect, not draftable in the top 5. I don't think UNC stands a chance, but Little has to look competent playing 1 on 1 defense.


Nassir Little is the prospect I am most confident in being a big difference maker for a decade. His game is just so easy to project to the NBA in a big way with that incredibly smooth shooting, energetic dribble-drive game, tenacious & intelligent defense, and intensity/motor.


Really crappy competition, but you can really see almost his full skillset against Elon. Only missing a mid range jumper which he can hit pretty reguarly. Easy to see how this skillset translates:

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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#43 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:59 pm

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If Iggy had been a better shooter, I could get down with that. But since he wasn't, I don't think that works well. Especially since Reddish is so reminiscent of TMac before the Hill injury forced Tracy to be the guy for his team & assert himself. Not as explosive, but the smoothness, the length, the playmaking & PG-background, the skill, and the more laidback personality; Cam just screams pre-breakout Tmac to me :dontknow:


I just think T-Mac was a much more explosive scorer than what Reddish will be at the NBA level. Iguodala isn't a good shooter you're right but I think there offensive contributions in total in terms of scoring+playmaking are a bit more similar.


In order for me to convert Cam into Andre I'd have to:

Make him smaller in stature
Increase his muscle mass significantly
Turn him into a plus, plus athlete
Make him an excellent defender
Turn him into a marginal three point shooter
Get rid of the next level touch he has on offense
Increase his aggressiveness/attacking mindset

To me, that's pretty much an entirely different player altogether.


Are we really going to act like Iguodala was this huge, hulking dude at Arizona as a freshmen? And they're both in that 6'7" range, so I don't know what you mean by 'making him smaller in stature'.

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As for your other points, Reddish is a plus athlete and an excellent defender, and Iguodala has a lot better touch offensively than you think he does.

You're looking at two athletic wings that can handle, facilitate, create on their own or for their own players and are versatile defensively. Really the biggest difference is the outside jump shooting to me at this point.

Is it a perfect comp? Not, but not sure any of these are nor should they be.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#44 » by cgf » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:39 pm

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Why not? Versatile, long wing that can handle, facilitate offense and is a smooth athlete. Iguodala probably a more explosive athlete at his peak but there strengths/weaknesses are similar.


If Iggy had been a better shooter, I could get down with that. But since he wasn't, I don't think that works well. Especially since Reddish is so reminiscent of TMac before the Hill injury forced Tracy to be the guy for his team & assert himself. Not as explosive, but the smoothness, the length, the playmaking & PG-background, the skill, and the more laidback personality; Cam just screams pre-breakout Tmac to me :dontknow:


I just think T-Mac was a much more explosive scorer than what Reddish will be at the NBA level. Iguodala isn't a good shooter you're right but I think there offensive contributions in total in terms of scoring+playmaking are a bit more similar.


That's fair, I think prime Iggy's impact is a fair comp; but stylistically he just screams early TMac to me...even if he never has that moment that TMac did, where he realizes that he just has to take over and be the man for his team. He's not as explosive an athlete, but with that skillset his physical tools are more than high-end enough to be a dynamic scorer...if Zion & RJ rub off on him and can ingrain some more assertiveness into him.
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Re: Nassir Little 

Post#45 » by cgf » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:48 pm

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paulbball wrote:Little has chances to prove himself this year.

If he can punk Zion or RJ/Cam when he guards them 1 on 1, he will rise high. Otherwise, I don't see him a franchise changing prospect, not draftable in the top 5. I don't think UNC stands a chance, but Little has to look competent playing 1 on 1 defense.


Nassir Little is the prospect I am most confident in being a big difference maker for a decade. His game is just so easy to project to the NBA in a big way with that incredibly smooth shooting, energetic dribble-drive game, tenacious & intelligent defense, and intensity/motor.


Really crappy competition, but you can really see almost his full skillset against Elon. Only missing a mid range jumper which he can hit pretty reguarly. Easy to see how this skillset translates:



Yeah, I love watching him play; even against weaker teams that can't challenge him defensively and let him show off just how good of an on-ball defender he already is. I'd be thrilled with any of the top 4, and ZIon is solidifying himself in a tier of his own...but Little might just be the kid that I'd be most thrilled to see join my beloved knicks. That defense & stroke are just a delight to see being paired with his intensity & instincts.

...**** if he showed some playmaking potential as well, he could be damn near the perfect prospect for me :lol:
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Post#46 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:20 pm

Little's best trait, other than his frame/strength combo, it's his unreal shot-making for his size
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Post#48 » by clyde21 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:01 pm

I don't see how this guy won't be a stud in the NBA. Worst case scenario is probably current Josh Richardson type of player.
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Post#49 » by dukes_wild » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:26 am

I have Little as my 3rd best prospect after Zion and RJ.
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Post#50 » by reanimator » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:57 pm

Starting to move towards a Gerald Wallace stylistic comp.
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Post#51 » by cgf » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:21 pm

If he can tighten up his handle in the post-season/pre-draft period, I'm all in on nas. Even if Roy keeps him from starting for way too long.
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Post#52 » by GimmeDat » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:27 pm

I think he's my guy for the Bulls.
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Post#53 » by Funcrusher » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:52 pm

GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.

Nas would be such a good fit on the Bulls... but then again he's probably a good fit for most lottery teams, lol. Pretty much all the bottom feeders need a wing that can defend and at least be able to space the floor right away. But he'd do really well next to Lauri and Carter Jr., my ideal destination for him would probably be Chicago as well.
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Post#54 » by cgf » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:10 pm

GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.


I live in Chicago & my bff is a bulls fan, so I've been thinking about this a lot and I kinda really like the fit with Reddish. With Dunn at the point and two go to scorers in Zach & Lauri, a playmaking wing like Cam seems like just what the doctor ordered...if he keeps up his intensity/focus...
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Post#55 » by GimmeDat » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:57 pm

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GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.


I live in Chicago & my bff is a bulls fan, so I've been thinking about this a lot and I kinda really like the fit with Reddish. With Dunn at the point and two go to scorers in Zach & Lauri, a playmaking wing like Cam seems like just what the doctor ordered...if he keeps up his intensity/focus...




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GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.

Nas would be such a good fit on the Bulls... but then again he's probably a good fit for most lottery teams, lol. Pretty much all the bottom feeders need a wing that can defend and at least be able to space the floor right away. But he'd do really well next to Lauri and Carter JR., my ideal destination for him would probably be Chicago as well.


It's definitely not easy to decide (and ultimately I'll be happy if we end up with any of the top 4).

Yeah, I love the idea of a tenacious 2 way guy in Little given our group, especially one who can move up to the 4 when we want to play Lauri at the 5. He needs to be able to shoot it, and I do feel optimistic about his shooting projection, but he is unproven, and the more he can develop his offensive game the better because we need upside fall stop.

Reddish provides more natural upside and proven shooting, but I want to see him consistently be a plus on defense, and not settle on offense. I agree the point forward qualities would be really valuable for us as well.

Both guys have qualities we could do with. It's tricky to decide.
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Post#56 » by cgf » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:09 am

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GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.


I live in Chicago & my bff is a bulls fan, so I've been thinking about this a lot and I kinda really like the fit with Reddish. With Dunn at the point and two go to scorers in Zach & Lauri, a playmaking wing like Cam seems like just what the doctor ordered...if he keeps up his intensity/focus...




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GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.

Nas would be such a good fit on the Bulls... but then again he's probably a good fit for most lottery teams, lol. Pretty much all the bottom feeders need a wing that can defend and at least be able to space the floor right away. But he'd do really well next to Lauri and Carter JR., my ideal destination for him would probably be Chicago as well.


It's definitely not easy to decide (and ultimately I'll be happy if we end up with any of the top 4).

Yeah, I love the idea of a tenacious 2 way guy in Little given our group, especially one who can move up to the 4 when we want to play Lauri at the 5. He needs to be able to shoot it, and I do feel optimistic about his shooting projection, but he is unproven, and the more he can develop his offensive game the better because we need upside fall stop.

Reddish provides more natural upside and proven shooting, but I want to see him consistently be a plus on defense, and not settle on offense. I agree the point forward qualities would be really valuable for us as well.

Both guys have qualities we could do with. It's tricky to decide.


Only thing I'd disagree with is their shooting. Nas is the most advanced shooter of the top 4 with the best & most reliable mechanics...it's a big part of why I like him so much. His handle needs to tighten up, but I have no doubts about his shot being a strength in the NBA. He's shown it can be a weapon in catch-and-shoot as well as pull up situations, and he's got a developing arsenal of ways to get enough space for it. Reddish is the best shooter of the Dukies and he seems to have cleaned up his mechanics, but I still want to see that consistency from his shot as the season goes on.
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Post#57 » by Funcrusher » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:40 am

GimmeDat wrote:
cgf wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.


I live in Chicago & my bff is a bulls fan, so I've been thinking about this a lot and I kinda really like the fit with Reddish. With Dunn at the point and two go to scorers in Zach & Lauri, a playmaking wing like Cam seems like just what the doctor ordered...if he keeps up his intensity/focus...




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GimmeDat wrote:I think he's my guy for the Bulls.

Nas would be such a good fit on the Bulls... but then again he's probably a good fit for most lottery teams, lol. Pretty much all the bottom feeders need a wing that can defend and at least be able to space the floor right away. But he'd do really well next to Lauri and Carter JR., my ideal destination for him would probably be Chicago as well.


It's definitely not easy to decide (and ultimately I'll be happy if we end up with any of the top 4).

Yeah, I love the idea of a tenacious 2 way guy in Little given our group, especially one who can move up to the 4 when we want to play Lauri at the 5. He needs to be able to shoot it, and I do feel optimistic about his shooting projection, but he is unproven, and the more he can develop his offensive game the better because we need upside fall stop.

Reddish provides more natural upside and proven shooting, but I want to see him consistently be a plus on defense, and not settle on offense. I agree the point forward qualities would be really valuable for us as well.

Both guys have qualities we could do with. It's tricky to decide.

Yeah, definitely. I'm probably down on RJ more than most right now, but that probably speaks to how good this top 4 is that I would rank him at the bottom. Each of these guys bring their own tangibles to the table, they all IMO, have relatively high floors, and if you have to choose between the 3 wings (which i'm assuming is the biggest position of need), that's a good problem to have. Or, you could say to hell with it and just take Zion, if you're that lucky haha.

Between Nas and Cam, it's close as far as who I would take, but right now would go with Nas. I think right now Nas has less glaring question marks than Cam, and his game seems a little easier to project going forward (though I will say that Cam has more dynamic strengths as a playmaker and maybe as a shooter). But yeah, if Reddish can show that he can consistently be a dog on defense I'd probably take him over Little.
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Post#58 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:54 am

Would not be surprised if this kid was the best player out of this draft 5 years down the line.
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Post#59 » by PLO » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:07 pm

I mentioned this in another thread but at the moment he's bad. Why can't he crack the starting 5 on his own college team?

Outside of the physical profile what is he showing that says top 5 pick?

He sounds good in theory, but when you watch him play, ugh.
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Post#60 » by Hoopz Afrik » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:11 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Would not be surprised if this kid was the best player out of this draft 5 years down the line.


I'd be very surprised. I really like him but I'm not passing on Zion or Cam for him. Maybe not RJ either.
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