2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread

[Threezus]

Trae with an efficient 25/17 assists vs Clips. Great game for him. His ability to get open for shots and create is fantastic for a rookie.

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I really want Zion in Atlanta. Such a good pairing.

You and me both my friend although we will have to move either Zion to SF or Collins to Center.

PG - Trae
SG - ?
SF - Prince
PF - Zion
C - Collins

or

PG - Trae
SG - ?
SF - Zion
PF - Collins
C - ?

Either way we have the 6th to 10th pick from the Mavs probably and around 50 to 60 million to figure out those other 2 positions lol.

[leolozon]

Trae with an efficient 25/17 assists vs Clips. Great game for him. His ability to get open for shots and create is fantastic for a rookie.

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Why use the word efficient? 25 and 17 is nice, no need to lie about it. 8/22 and 1/5 isn't efficient. Even more with 6 TOs.

Calm down with the "lie" word buddy. Big difference between a lie and a mistake. At half he was shooting 50%, even pre 4th quarter he was somewhere around there. I didn't realize he shot so badly in the 4th and had 6 turnovers. He was 8/20 late 4th, guess he missed a couple late I didn't account for. Regardless, extremely promising showing from a rookie. His efficiency will improve.

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I'm sorry for that. I was on a political forum right before and people are really dishonest there. I forgot for a moment that realgm is a forum with good posters.

[Goudelock]

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Bagley's shot-blocking has been a very pleasant surprise.

[kg01]

Fun game from Young. I was glad to see him answer the challenge from Beverly and SGA who's a good defensive guard as well.

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[BAMAFREAK]

If there was a redraft today how do y’all see it going? I know it’s a small sample size but some guys are showing some good stuff while others are showing bad. Post your personal top 5 or 10s
Doncic
JJJ
Ayton
Young
Bagley
WCJ
Bamba
Knox
SGA
Sexton
Bridges

[Rn5ho]

Doncic
JJJ
Ayton
WCJ
Bagley
Young
SGA
Bamba
Sexton

[Bob8]

Trae with an efficient 25/17 assists vs Clips. Great game for him. His ability to get open for shots and create is fantastic for a rookie.

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I really want Zion in Atlanta. Such a good pairing.

You and me both my friend although we will have to move either Zion to SF or Collins to Center.

PG - Trae
SG - ?
SF - Prince
PF - Zion
C - Collins

or

PG - Trae
SG - ?
SF - Zion
PF - Collins
C - ?

Either way we have the 6th to 10th pick from the Mavs probably and around 50 to 60 million to figure out those other 2 positions lol.

people constantly repeat 6-10, but odds are not exactly good for picks 6-8, even if Dallas has very bad season. Around 9-12 is much more realistic. http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

[3toheadmelo]

kinda hard to redraft since most rookies have been balling but I would prob do this

Ayton
Doncic
JJJ
Young
Carter jr
Bagley
Bamba
SGA
Sexton
Mitchell Robinson

im sure I’m missing some more rookies, so I apologize if I did. this draft has been great

[BladeKor]

Trae with an efficient 25/17 assists vs Clips. Great game for him. His ability to get open for shots and create is fantastic for a rookie.

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I really want Zion in Atlanta. Such a good pairing.

Won't happen, Zion is going to Cavs when the nba gives them the #1 pick.

[codydaze]

Trae with an efficient 25/17 assists vs Clips. Great game for him. His ability to get open for shots and create is fantastic for a rookie.

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I really want Zion in Atlanta. Such a good pairing.

You and me both my friend although we will have to move either Zion to SF or Collins to Center.

PG - Trae
SG - ?
SF - Prince
PF - Zion
C - Collins

or

PG - Trae
SG - ?
SF - Zion
PF - Collins
C - ?

Either way we have the 6th to 10th pick from the Mavs probably and around 50 to 60 million to figure out those other 2 positions lol.

I'd slide Collins to C, play Zion at PF and try to get Kevin Porter with the Dallas pick. That team would be electrifying.

[DowJones]

Who here had Collin Sexton shooting 52% from 3 early on? He has looked very good since becoming a starter.

[Heej]

Who here had Collin Sexton shooting 52% from 3 early on? He has looked very good since becoming a starter.

Not that high but his jumpshot looked A LOT better to me in the film I watched compared to what he was billed as coming out of college. His offhand is strange but his follow through is money. He's no De'Aaron Fox when it comes to speed but his jumper projects to be even better than what Fox is showing us. He'll be a damn good PG for years to come.

[HotelVitale]

Who here had Collin Sexton shooting 52% from 3 early on? He has looked very good since becoming a starter.

He's looked decent from midrange, too, but he's made all of 12 3s this year and most have been catch-and-shoot. Let's not get ahead of ourselves quoting stats, he's been an extremely low volume 3pt shooter.

[nikster]

I spent whole last year arguing about lack of his driving and shooting numbers and differences between Euroleague and Nba. People called me being many things. And Luka is doing even much better than was my expectations. And most of the time he doesn’t even play in his best position. His ceiling is somewhere around 25/8/8 based on what we’re seeing at the moment.

You talking his rookie ceiling or his prime ceiling? Because those are two very different things and ceiling means it is absolute maximum he can reach and he's already shown he can go beyond 25ppg - probably not as a rookie, but when he hits prime for sure. Not saying he will, but there's no ceiling limiting him from surpassing that. Now, if you were talking rookie ceiling, that's a whole different story..

He'll probably never average those assist numbers. Even if his USG% goes over 30%... He is slowly transforming himself to be their primary scorer and mostly all around guy. Don't know why people still think of him as a pure PG. He also plays with DSJ in the lineup so it's basically impossible to sustain those numbers through the whole year. His "prime" ceiling could probably be close to 30ppg and 8-10rb... but i can see him averaging max 5as, which is already decent. Obviously only if gets stronger and faster, but like i said, that's years away.
Also his ppg is lower a bit right now because he is basically getting no calls. In EU, refs protected him a lot more than they do in the NBA. So i expect FT numbers to go way up when he starts getting respect from the res. Last night GSW were hammering him the whole game and he got only 2 lousy calls.

How do you figure max 5 assists? He’s averaging 4.2 as a rookie and is sharing the floor with 2 inefficient scorers in Matthews and Barnes and a ball dominant gaurd in DSJ.

[Archx]

You talking his rookie ceiling or his prime ceiling? Because those are two very different things and ceiling means it is absolute maximum he can reach and he's already shown he can go beyond 25ppg - probably not as a rookie, but when he hits prime for sure. Not saying he will, but there's no ceiling limiting him from surpassing that. Now, if you were talking rookie ceiling, that's a whole different story..

He'll probably never average those assist numbers. Even if his USG% goes over 30%... He is slowly transforming himself to be their primary scorer and mostly all around guy. Don't know why people still think of him as a pure PG. He also plays with DSJ in the lineup so it's basically impossible to sustain those numbers through the whole year. His "prime" ceiling could probably be close to 30ppg and 8-10rb... but i can see him averaging max 5as, which is already decent. Obviously only if gets stronger and faster, but like i said, that's years away.
Also his ppg is lower a bit right now because he is basically getting no calls. In EU, refs protected him a lot more than they do in the NBA. So i expect FT numbers to go way up when he starts getting respect from the res. Last night GSW were hammering him the whole game and he got only 2 lousy calls.

How do you figure max 5 assists? He’s averaging 4.2 as a rookie and is sharing the floor with 2 inefficient scorers in Matthews and Barnes and a ball dominant gaurd in DSJ.

Was just a guess. Wes wasn't playing bad when he was just a spot up shooter. He actually made a lot of open shots. Barnes is not a bad shooter either if he doesn't have a completely bad night. I didn't say it was set in stone, just my feeling.

[Bob8]

He'll probably never average those assist numbers. Even if his USG% goes over 30%... He is slowly transforming himself to be their primary scorer and mostly all around guy. Don't know why people still think of him as a pure PG. He also plays with DSJ in the lineup so it's basically impossible to sustain those numbers through the whole year. His "prime" ceiling could probably be close to 30ppg and 8-10rb... but i can see him averaging max 5as, which is already decent. Obviously only if gets stronger and faster, but like i said, that's years away.
Also his ppg is lower a bit right now because he is basically getting no calls. In EU, refs protected him a lot more than they do in the NBA. So i expect FT numbers to go way up when he starts getting respect from the res. Last night GSW were hammering him the whole game and he got only 2 lousy calls.

How do you figure max 5 assists? He’s averaging 4.2 as a rookie and is sharing the floor with 2 inefficient scorers in Matthews and Barnes and a ball dominant gaurd in DSJ.

Was just a guess. Wes wasn't playing bad when he was just a spot up shooter. He actually made a lot of open shots. Barnes is not a bad shooter either if he doesn't have a completely bad night. I didn't say it was set in stone, just my feeling.

People are being misled with this small sample and current position Luka is playing. I don’t believe Luka is a 30ppg player, not many are, and I don’t believe he will average only 4-5 assists per game when all is set and done.

[GameBredAPBT]

Lol @ Doncic winding up being a 30ppg guy. Riiiiiiiight

[Johnny Firpo]

Lol @ Doncic winding up being a 30ppg guy. Riiiiiiiight

I don't think he's ever going to average 30, but he certainly has the tools to do it. It's just not his playing style, probably.

[Rn5ho]

Lol @ Doncic winding up being a 30ppg guy. Riiiiiiiight

Lol @ Doncic translating to NBA. Riiiiiiight

[Archx]

Lol @ Doncic winding up being a 30ppg guy. Riiiiiiiight

The amount of contact Doncic already absorbs is insane. You only breath on guys like Harden and its a foul. He can already score easily close to 25 points without even going to a FT line. When he will get a bit more respect from refs and actually get some calls, he'll be up there. Obviously depends on his role and how well he will improve his shoot %, but he could already have many games close to 30 points with more trips to the FT line.

Obviously if you're not watching Mavs games this will sound crazy to you. But for people who do watch it, they'll understand.