bradley beal

[vic]

I think people are seriously underestimating Bradley Beal...

He's an alpha and if he comes to this team he's immediately the offensive leader and closer... Partly because of the perimeter position he plays and partly because he spaces the floor and gets to the cup. He becomes the perimeter at-will scorer and closer that balances out Blake and Dre's paint heavy offense.

He's waaay more worth a first round pick than Blake was. And I NEVER think its a good idea to give up a first round pick.

However in this case, if you're not going to trade Blake you might as well go all in for an actual BALANCED Big 3 of Beal, Blake, and Drummond.

[vic]

I'd give Kennard, Ellenson, 2020 top 3 protected 1st Rounder for Beal. Do it while you can!

[buzzkilloton]

Beal has more trade value then Butler. Hes not going to be had for a SVG draft pick in Kennard and a 1st rounder. I guess if we made a 3 team trade and we fired off Drummond and some 1sts something could happen depending on whos interested in giving up value for Drummond.

That said adding Beal wont take us off the treadmill anyways. Sitting back and drafting talented players is the only way to fix this mess. The pistons scouting department has missed out on tons of talent in recent years. Not just the standard guys we complain about like Mitchell/Booker but really good starter level-6th man type players that have been coming out through the late lotto-early 2nd round picks in recent years. We need to sit back make some good picks and develop the talent for a few years under cheap contracts and then start looking at adding all star guys in trades.

A good model to follow to build a team is the clippers. Trade Blake and get some young players/picks with cap flexibility.

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2018-19-week-6

Clippers number 1 in the power rankings after trading the face of their franchise.

[MotownMadness]

I think people are seriously underestimating Bradley Beal...

He's an alpha and if he comes to this team he's immediately the offensive leader and closer... Partly because of the perimeter position he plays and partly because he spaces the floor and gets to the cup. He becomes the perimeter at-will scorer and closer that balances out Blake and Dre's paint heavy offense.

He's waaay more worth a first round pick than Blake was. And I NEVER think its a good idea to give up a first round pick.

However in this case, if you're not going to trade Blake you might as well go all in for an actual BALANCED Big 3 of Beal, Blake, and Drummond.

I would definitely pay to bring him here. People not wanting too are getting caught up in they’re own head games. We aren’t becoming a champion through the draft any time soon either so I would lower my expectations on that as well.

[vic]

Beal has more trade value then Butler. Hes not going to be had for a SVG draft pick in Kennard and a 1st rounder. I guess if we made a 3 team trade and we fired off Drummond and some 1sts something could happen depending on whos interested in giving up value for Drummond.

That said adding Beal wont take us off the treadmill anyways. Sitting back and drafting talented players is the only way to fix this mess. The pistons scouting department has missed out on tons of talent in recent years. Not just the standard guys we complain about like Mitchell/Booker but really good starter level-6th man type players that have been coming out through the late lotto-early 2nd round picks in recent years. We need to sit back make some good picks and develop the talent for a few years under cheap contracts and then start looking at adding all star guys in trades.

A good model to follow to build a team is the clippers. Trade Blake and get some young players/picks with cap flexibility.

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2018-19-week-6

Clippers number 1 in the power rankings after trading the face of their franchise.

That's a great plan, but unfortunately the Logo already took advantage of SVG and set the Pistons back another 5 years. We both knew this was going to happen. But... Who's going to take Blake now?

[Kilo]

Beal has more trade value then Butler. Hes not going to be had for a SVG draft pick in Kennard and a 1st rounder. I guess if we made a 3 team trade and we fired off Drummond and some 1sts something could happen depending on whos interested in giving up value for Drummond.

That said adding Beal wont take us off the treadmill anyways. Sitting back and drafting talented players is the only way to fix this mess. The pistons scouting department has missed out on tons of talent in recent years. Not just the standard guys we complain about like Mitchell/Booker but really good starter level-6th man type players that have been coming out through the late lotto-early 2nd round picks in recent years. We need to sit back make some good picks and develop the talent for a few years under cheap contracts and then start looking at adding all star guys in trades.

A good model to follow to build a team is the clippers. Trade Blake and get some young players/picks with cap flexibility.

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2018-19-week-6

Clippers number 1 in the power rankings after trading the face of their franchise.

That's a great plan, but unfortunately the Logo already took advantage of SVG and set the Pistons back another 5 years. We both knew this was going to happen. But... Who's going to take Blake now?

Jordan's Charlotte Hornets? Kemba and Blake could be interesting.

[The Penguin]

The rumor du jour has the Hornets offering something built around Monk or Bridges - draft picks - Marvin Williams - Jeremy Lamb for Beal, which is better than Kennard, one of our picks, our filler.

Bottom line, we lack any young players teams doing these deals would be interested in and we lack expiring contracts to make the deals work in the cap.

[buzzkilloton]

Beal has more trade value then Butler. Hes not going to be had for a SVG draft pick in Kennard and a 1st rounder. I guess if we made a 3 team trade and we fired off Drummond and some 1sts something could happen depending on whos interested in giving up value for Drummond.

That said adding Beal wont take us off the treadmill anyways. Sitting back and drafting talented players is the only way to fix this mess. The pistons scouting department has missed out on tons of talent in recent years. Not just the standard guys we complain about like Mitchell/Booker but really good starter level-6th man type players that have been coming out through the late lotto-early 2nd round picks in recent years. We need to sit back make some good picks and develop the talent for a few years under cheap contracts and then start looking at adding all star guys in trades.

A good model to follow to build a team is the clippers. Trade Blake and get some young players/picks with cap flexibility.

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/2018-19-week-6

Clippers number 1 in the power rankings after trading the face of their franchise.

That's a great plan, but unfortunately the Logo already took advantage of SVG and set the Pistons back another 5 years. We both knew this was going to happen. But... Who's going to take Blake now?

I think Blakes value today is as high as it will ever be for us. Hes healthy and has looked good. Do i think he stays healthy? Hell no.

I'm sure we could find a team willing to gamble on him. Not sure we would get back a young player as good as Harris and a lotto pick + borderline starter and bench player like we gave. I feel like we could get a lesser young player and protected lotto pick or something.

Obv were all just theory crafting deals here as we all know we dont have the pieces to land Beal nor a ownership group smart enough to think longterm and move Blake.

[Snakebites]

I make a couple of assumptions here:

1) The Wizards won't want a large contract like Griffin or Drummond coming back in a deal for Wall or Beal. It's antithetical to the reasoning behind dealing those guys.
2) They're probably not going to be in love with the idea of taking on smaller non-expiring deals on less valuable guys either. Galloway and Leuer would be tough sells and either or both would be essential to make salaries match.

I realize this thread is about Beal so I won't get into how bad an idea going for Wall is. But I think Beal has some trade value and wouldn't be an easy player to acquire with our assets.

[buzzkilloton]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251697/Wizards-In-No-Rush-To-Trade-Either-John-Wall-Or-Bradley-Beal

"League executives believe Beal could generate a bigger return on the trade market than recent trades involving Blake Griffin and Kawhi Leonard."

[BadMofoPimp]

Being there is an "I want Beal" thread on 90% of RealGM boards, I have to think the chances are slim to none that the Pistons have any shot of obtaining Beal. A few of those teams have just as great a need of Beals services while having more assets to facilitate such a trade. Keep dreaming tho.