WWE General Discussion II

improper · Post #401 » by **improper** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:04 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:I wonder if people wouldn't be as mad about that HbK return if it wasn't at the already controversial Saudi show.

That's obviously part of it. It's also that he came back to do a really, really bad match, or at least every review I've read of it said it was garbage. Didn't actually watch it or any of Crown Jewel. Just read the recap.

LLJ · Post #402 » by **LLJ** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:09 pm

People will forget about HBK's one return like people forgot Jordan's Wizards run.

At the end of the day though, money is money.

improper · Post #403 » by **improper** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:18 pm

LLJ wrote:People will forget about HBK's one return like people forgot Jordan's Wizards run.

At the end of the day though, money is money.

The thing is, I doubt anyone really cares that he did the show for money. We all already know that. I only care because he so obviously did it solely for the money but feels the need to be defensive and lie about it. We know he only did the show because the Saudis backed up a dump truck full of money to his house. Just own up to it. No one will think less of him for being honest, but I will absolutely think less of him for pretending there was any greater reason he did it. It was clearly about the money and nothing else. It sure as hell wasn't about putting on an amazing match (from everything I read, the match was utter garbage) or a compelling feud.

Post #404 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:03 pm

And like it or not, appearance does matter. And bald old HBK just doesn't get it done - even with him being in good shape.

Post #405 » by **Stanford** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:10 pm

I thought HBK looked great

Randy_Savage · Post #406 » by **Randy_Savage** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:24 pm

There is something to be said about a bald HBK. It just looked sad. He should have stayed retired.

Now, Stone Cold..there's a guy I'd like to see come back one last time. Give me one more match. That's all I ask. He needs a proper sendoff.

LLJ · Post #407 » by **LLJ** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:27 pm

HBK = Half Bald Kid

improper · Post #408 » by **improper** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:22 pm

The main problem is that Michaels and Triple H just can't pull of the DX gimmick any more. It just feels sad, like they're in a mid-life crisis. Shawn doesn't even drink any more as far as I know and he found god, and Triple H is a corporate businessman and father. They're about as far from the guys they were when DX was formed as it is possible to get. They'd not edgy or rebellious. They are the system they used to rebel against.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make them grave-digging the DX gimmick feel any less sad.

Post #409 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:29 pm

improper wrote:The main problem is that Michaels and Triple H just can't pull of the DX gimmick any more. It just feels sad, like they're in a mid-life crisis. Shawn doesn't even drink any more as far as I know and he found god, and Triple H is a corporate businessman and father. They're about as far from the guys they were when DX was formed as it is possible to get. They'd not edgy or rebellious. They are the system they used to rebel against.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make them grave-digging the DX gimmick feel any less sad.

I have no issue with it. They are a nostalgia act at this point anyway. It's no different bands playing the hits from 40 years ago imo.

I mean I'd rather the company didn't rely on these acts so much, but I have no issue with them playing their characters.

Post #410 » by **Stanford** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:10 am

Texas Chuck wrote:I mean I'd rather the company didn't rely on these acts so much, but I have no issue with them playing their characters.

I wouldn't say they rely on them at all. Undertaker and Triple H work Mania exclusively and Kane is a freaking mayor.

Post #411 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:31 pm

Stanford wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I mean I'd rather the company didn't rely on these acts so much, but I have no issue with them playing their characters.

I wouldn't say they rely on them at all. Undertaker and Triple H work Mania exclusively and Kane is a freaking mayor.

Sure feels like at least once a year the Machine is randomly thrown in a Triple Threat title match at a ppv, no?

but you are right, I overstated things.

daoneandonly · Post #412 » by **daoneandonly** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:31 pm

This would be interesting if Jericho-Ross and the Elite group are all working together. Not getting my hopes up, but any type of competition for Vince has got to be a good thing as it makes him step it up

https://prowrestling.net/site/2018/11/21/trademarks-filed-for-all-elite-wrestling-potential-startup-involving-cody-young-bucks-adam-page-and-nfl-owner-son-tony-khan/

daoneandonly · Post #413 » by **daoneandonly** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:32 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I mean I'd rather the company didn't rely on these acts so much, but I have no issue with them playing their characters.

I wouldn't say they rely on them at all. Undertaker and Triple H work Mania exclusively and Kane is a freaking mayor.

Sure feels like at least once a year the Machine is randomly thrown in a Triple Threat title match at a ppv, no?

but you are right, I overstated things.

I didnt know you were a fellow wrestling fan Chuck! how often do u watch?

Scott Hall · Post #414 » by **Scott Hall** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:39 pm

So whats the deal with Starrcade?

They aren't even broadcasting it live and are showing a 1 hour special on it the day after? WTF?

improper · Post #415 » by **improper** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:52 pm

Scott Hall wrote:So whats the deal with Starrcade?

They aren't even broadcasting it live and are showing a 1 hour special on it the day after? WTF?

Every now and then Vince likes to remind everyone that he beat WCW. I'd imagine making Starrcade a joke house show is this year's reminder.

Scott Hall · Post #416 » by **Scott Hall** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:01 pm

improper wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:So whats the deal with Starrcade?

They aren't even broadcasting it live and are showing a 1 hour special on it the day after? WTF?

Every now and then Vince likes to remind everyone that he beat WCW. I'd imagine making Starrcade a joke house show is this year's reminder.

Last year it was a giant house show as well... now its been upgraded to a one hour special the day after... #progress lol

Spens1 · Post #417 » by **Spens1** » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:04 am

Stanford wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I mean I'd rather the company didn't rely on these acts so much, but I have no issue with them playing their characters.

I wouldn't say they rely on them at all. Undertaker and Triple H work Mania exclusively and Kane is a freaking mayor.

The issue is they keep on bringing these acts out instead of building what they have here. More often then not instead of being lower down the card (which a nostalgia act should be) they're semi main or main event.

Spens1 · Post #418 » by **Spens1** » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:07 am

daoneandonly wrote:This would be interesting if Jericho-Ross and the Elite group are all working together. Not getting my hopes up, but any type of competition for Vince has got to be a good thing as it makes him step it up

https://prowrestling.net/site/2018/11/21/trademarks-filed-for-all-elite-wrestling-potential-startup-involving-cody-young-bucks-adam-page-and-nfl-owner-son-tony-khan/

I saw this, would love to see all of the elite (flip included), Castle, Cobb, Strickland and some of the hotter independent names right now be on the initial roster and hopefully they can work with Impact as well (though honestly, Khan could just buy Impact, which would make more sense to me).

I'm amazed Cuban (given how much he loves wrestling) never tried to start or buy a promotion.

iMoreland · Post #419 » by **iMoreland** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:13 am

Becky and McGregor vs Cena and Rousey would sell out any stadium in the world

Read on Twitter

Scott Hall · Post #420 » by **Scott Hall** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:04 am

Watching some early 90's WCW on the WWE Network...

The crooked WCW sign at the entrance ramp always frigging annoys me. I like how a lot of matches on the
under card are short and to the point helps with the flow of the PPV. WCW really did do some corny stuff
back then even worse then Vince at times.

I remember as a kid I was always big fans of Van Hammer and Stunning Steve Austin. Van Hammer had such a great
look and was good in the ring for that era and for a big man. Was always a big fan of Austins ring work it's nice to
watch him before all the injuries and knee braces Dolph Zigger has a little Stunning Steve Austin in him.

I guess Van Hammer couldn't cut a promo to save his life as he floundered for awhile and then settled in with the flock
but early 90's Van Hammer was impressive.