enough is enough with these mistakes that has to be fixed

lalalaker · Post #1 » by **lalalaker** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:52 am

I get that we are winning great but right now we are too reliant on lebron to win us games with minimal help. Let me point out luke is doing a terrible job from last year to now on coaching the team offensively and defensively.

1. I'm not impressed by lonzo at all cause we spent the number 2 draft pick on a player that can only score 2 pts in 2 game and plays only about 25mins a night even if rondo is out. How hard is it for luke to actually coach lonzo to play like an actual pg instead of being a catch and shoot guy. There are ways to be engaged in offense even if you cant shoot. look how fox dribbled all the way to the basket and around it to lure in 2nd defender for a pass to an open guy under the rim. this offense right now is pathetic and its part of luke to not have a system in place so we arent reliant on james to make the play for us and lack thereof once he goes to bench.Besides who da hell wants a pg who sucks at offense but is above average in defense i rather have the opposite player who can at least be relied on with a ball in his hand and be an actual facilitator

2. The defense is worse bc luke dont have that switch everything in motion taking place look at the heats game ingram is chasing around the screen and makes mcgee having to decide whether to defend the roller or his initial assignment and allows easy open layup. Why does luke not realize lakers have the size to switch and rotate lot of matchups yet settling on chasing screens and not even having the idea of potentially traping that player away from the ball. I gurantee that lakers arent gonna go anywhere with the way luke is making them defend and i sure would like to slap his face and show him how its really done in the rest of the league

Slink · Post #2 » by **Slink** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:21 am

Young coach and young team with the best player and some vets. Your're going to get mixed results.

AdonisDeMarion · Post #3 » by **AdonisDeMarion** » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:17 am

Everyone is in panic mode already, why is that? The season is still young and y'all ttripping ffor nothing. We turned half our team over and players are still trying to figure each other out.

I swear some of y'all think this it NBA 2K

lalalaker · Post #4 » by **lalalaker** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:54 am

wait a minute i aint panicking about this season i am panicking about the lack of improvement from this team minus lebron because nothing and i repeat nothing has improved from the last seasons style of coaching and plays cause all im seeing is luke doing nothing to make defense work in terms of schemes, no offensive system on half court set and nothing to lonzo's nature has changed. Why am i seeing the same old dam lame style of lonzo who hardly facilitates, hardly go to the rim to assist or score. We got the worst pg in that draft class who can only score 2 dam points in 2 games COMBINED and yall tellin me i shouldnt trip? Is luke so dam afraid to tell his dam pg to play more aggressive EVERY GAME and be more ENGAGED in offense instead of being some gleague level catch and shoot guy? I aint sayin he should average 20 25 pts a game but at least make a dam effort to maintain around 14 15 and at least 7 8 assist. Hell we all seein ben simmons play to assist on others and yea they suck but at least simmons is being looked up as a franchise cornerstone getting everyone involved. our pg hardly scores, assist or shoot normal so hell nah i aint trippin bout this season im trippen about this team from last yr

Spens1 · Post #5 » by **Spens1** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:56 am

AdonisDeMarion wrote:Everyone is in panic mode already, why is that? The season is still young and y'all ttripping ffor nothing. We turned half our team over and players are still trying to figure each other out.

I swear some of y'all think this it NBA 2K

Well they're all coming out somehow worse despite all the spiel about how they were working in the offseason on all these things. Lonzo still can't shoot, Kuzma has regressed in the P.F version of Jordan Clarkson and Brandon Ingram has forgotten how to shoot altogether.

Laker_Kid · Post #6 » by **Laker_Kid** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:59 am

think I found the ranting thread.

in that case, lonzo sucks at scoring the ball so much. can he like, not? because it's painful to watch. how did get this far without learning how to shoot floaters? or a simple layup instead of always having to cradle the ball first? everything else he does is pretty impressive though.

and ingram needs to be better. especially offball, catch and shoot. he gets caught up in iso mode too often. i wish he'd get mad all the time and dunk on people. he plays too small and can barely abuse smaller defenders. i don't get why.

after lebron, the pecking order is wide open, i'd be jumping at that opportunity if i was the young core. but so far, kuzma is the only guy who seem to want to be _the_guy_ the most.

at least josh hart is solid, every time he shoots a 3, i'm even more surprised when it doesn't go in.

kobe808lak · Post #7 » by **kobe808lak** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:42 pm

Time to start exploring deals that may be out there from other teams.. No one is untouchable anymore in my book.

the7boss · Post #8 » by **the7boss** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:25 pm

kobe808lak wrote:Time to start exploring deals that may be out there from other teams.. No one is untouchable anymore in my book.

I agree.

But not right now. We need to keep winning and going up in the standings, try to get our young guys' value back and let other franchises panick. Then, pull the trigger when trade deadline approaches. Pau Gasol trade style.

We have Bron on our roster, man, maybe the best ever to play the game, we have to compete for the championship since year 1. Don't waste the opportunity of a ring for an uncertain future of a pair of young guys that maybe will amount to nothing. Ask Cleveland if it was worthy getting rid of a much hyped Wiggins.

Dr Aki · Post #9 » by **Dr Aki** » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:42 pm

the7boss wrote:
kobe808lak wrote:Time to start exploring deals that may be out there from other teams.. No one is untouchable anymore in my book.

I agree.

But not right now. We need to keep winning and going up in the standings, try to get our young guys' value back and let other franchises panick. Then, pull the trigger when trade deadline approaches. Pau Gasol trade style.

We have Bron on our roster, man, maybe the best ever to play the game, we have to compete for the championship since year 1. Don't waste the opportunity of a ring for an uncertain future of a pair of young guys that maybe will amount to nothing. Ask Cleveland if it was worthy getting rid of a much hyped Wiggins.

Any incoming player(s) need to earn less than outgoing contracts in 2019.

I don't know what the rush is. We have a timing window, we've known this for over two years, the second we moved Dlo, we knew the time to go all in is after we nab a second max guy in free agency

Post #10 » by **zimpy27** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:07 am

I kind of agree about Lonzo, I would like him to have more run of the floor. Problem is his lack of confidence and ability to make shots around the rim. He needs to be working on that.

danfantastk32 · Post #11 » by **danfantastk32** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:15 am

This is why I like sports. It's not some sitcom where it gets solved in 30 minutes. Lonzo has alot going for him. So does Ingram. Both have issues. May sort it out....may not.

Alot of work to do. Might take a couple years, and we may not even hoist a trophy with Lebron. Enjoy the journey....that's all the advice I can give you guys. Young squad learning to play with Lebron. I think its entertaining myself.

Laker_Kid · Post #12 » by **Laker_Kid** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:29 am

it's entertaining and fun for sure, but at times could be excruciatingly painful to watch.

lalalaker · Post #13 » by **lalalaker** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:00 am

we all love lakers and basketball and look we all gain certain b ball common sense and see the trends of how good teams play compared to the bad ones so thats why it frustrates me that our bball knowledge is obviously above that of luke. All i can say is that let others be objective about wat a normal guy like me is complaining about pls do it after luke has done his part to at least coach at the standard of todays nba and stop giving me reason to complain about him in the first place. switching on defense, stable half court offense and more pushing of lonzo and ingram is all i ask. do that 1st then complain about me till then stop coaching like a high school HC

Michael Lucky · Post #14 » by **Michael Lucky** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:28 pm

AdonisDeMarion wrote:Everyone is in panic mode already, why is that? The season is still young and y'all ttripping ffor nothing. We turned half our team over and players are still trying to figure each other out.

I swear some of y'all think this it NBA 2K

I think there is reason for negativity. We are winning because LeBron is godly that is it. The rest of the team outside of Javale are just pieces out there right now and it does not help that Ingram, Lonzo, and Kuzma are either the same players as last year or have slightly regressed so far. The season is still young but it is irritating that they are all playing worse at game 15 than at game 5. The most concerning part by far is the play of the young core.

Optms · Post #15 » by **Optms** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:20 pm

No need to make any moves. This ship sinks or takes off next off season. Why compromise our golden ticket?

Landsberger · Post #16 » by **Landsberger** » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:08 am

Michael Lucky wrote:
AdonisDeMarion wrote:Everyone is in panic mode already, why is that? The season is still young and y'all ttripping ffor nothing. We turned half our team over and players are still trying to figure each other out.

I swear some of y'all think this it NBA 2K

I think there is reason for negativity. We are winning because LeBron is godly that is it. The rest of the team outside of Javale are just pieces out there right now and it does not help that Ingram, Lonzo, and Kuzma are either the same players as last year or have slightly regressed so far. The season is still young but it is irritating that they are all playing worse at game 15 than at game 5. The most concerning part by far is the play of the young core.

Ball and Ingram were the leaders of every team they have every played on. Kuzma had a longer road here and grew into what he is. It's not a surprise to me that Kuz seems much more comfortable with Bron than the other 2. It will take a while to learn that you aren't the leader. That's what I'm seeing. How they adjust will determine if they stay IMHO.