All Elite Wrestling Rumours

[Spens1]

Apparently has Tony Khan and the Khan family (the owners of the Jacksonville)

Trademarks have been registered as well (All Elite Wrestling, All Out, Tuesday Night Dynamite etc)

https://www.reddit.com/comments/9yzl37 (Source, also Wrestlingnews.co did also report, but would not recommend unless you want new types of viruses on your computer).

The Elite obviously are all linked, as are SCU (Daniels, Kazarian, Scorpio Sky).

The twitter handle is only following arenas by the way:

Sears Center (Chicago, Illinois)
The Forum (Los Angeles, California)
Pepsi Center (Denver, Colorado)
Wells Fargo Center (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)
Target Center (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
Toyota Center (Houston, Texas)
Smoothie King Center (New Orleans, Louisiana)
Key Arena (Seattle, Washington)
Quicken Loans Arena (Cleveland, Ohio)
T-Mobile Arena (Las Vegas, Nevada)
PNC Arena (Raleigh, North Carolina)
Little Caeser's Arena (Detroit, Michigan)
Fiserv Forum (Milwaukee, Wisconsin)

This is the logo btw:



Now this is very early and we have no idea what could happen but if it does happen, with the right TV deal (i.e TNT, CBS or some other big network) then we will have our first real competitor since WCW.

[Spens1]

Assuming this happens, this would be the dream roster:

Elite: Kenny Omega (whilst freelancing with New Japan of course), Cody Rhodes, Young Bucks, Marty Scurll, Flip Gordon (i'd honestly have Page remain in Japan, he's over and he could be IC champ in about 18 months with the right push).

Roster: Shane Strickland (hottest F.A there is, his MLW work is great), Jeff Cobb (deserves a big push, though he may be looking at New Japan), WALTER (unlikely, but maybe they can fly him in for tapings if its on the east coast), Rich Swann, Willie Mack

WWE signings: Uhaa Nation (underused in WWE, would do a good job going away for a few years and rebuilding his career), Gallows & Anderson (moreso because maybe WWE doesn't resign them, at least this way they stay in America), Zach Ryder (is he injured or just not on TV anymore).

There probably are a bunch more underused guys on the main roster that could fit this (just look at the lower card and you'll see good workers).

[JohnPferdelack]

Hopefully WWE gets a legit rival (not like TNA, more a new WCW) . It could be the best for all.

[Spens1]

Hopefully WWE gets a legit rival (not like TNA, more a new WCW) . It could be the best for all.

Hopefully, but for that they need the TV deal to go with it (some prime time TV show that can draw 2 mill + ).

[JohnPferdelack]

yes, that's the most important requirement.

[jakecronus8]

Wrestletalk reporting that two main roster "stars" are pretty much dead set on signing if the promotion takes off. Wonder who it would be? Not sure when their contracts are up but I'll just guess Balor and Nakamura. Those guys are tight and both grossly misused by wwe.

I really wish Punk had an itch to stick it to Vince. If he was in on this they'd get some big time mainstream hype, and to be honest I think that's the biggest thing they need after securing a tv deal. While the true wrestling fans would be pumped for the names currently floated, they need a big big name to get some eyes on the product.

[Scott Hall]

I don't know....

To get to a ROH/Impact level ok but WCW level I don't see it. The wrestling game is not an easy game the owners
better be filthy rich, a major corporation and at least billionaires because odds are you'll probably end up losing some
money especially in the beginning.

The WWE now is apart of pop culture and global and they've over saturated the market with RAW, Smackdown, NXT,
205 Live, Mix Match challenge, Mae Young Classic, NXT UK, the reality shows etc. etc. Then if you're a hardcore fan
you might also watch NJPW, ROH, Lucha Underground, Impact etc etc.

To get the public and major networks attention you better at least match WWE's production value, have completely
different (better storylines) and have some big stars. I don't know how a new company would draw either they might
have to film in one location like TNA in Orlando for awhile.

The thing that WCW had going for it was it was owned by Ted Turner who just happened to own big TV channels and
networks to give it the exposure it needed to flourish.

I don't see a major network investing in a new start up promotion where Vince has a monopoly and the failure rate
is high. Now if a major TV channel or Network wanted some good cheap programming they should buy or start up a
promotion and try to build it up and let it develop organically but I wouldn't be dreaming of being the next WCW right away.

[improper]

Wrestletalk reporting that two main roster "stars" are pretty much dead set on signing if the promotion takes off. Wonder who it would be? Not sure when their contracts are up but I'll just guess Balor and Nakamura. Those guys are tight and both grossly misused by wwe.

Owens would have been my top guess, but he signed a five year contract recently so that's probably not happening any time soon.

[bestnamezRtaken]

This wouldn't rival WWE at all, lol. Wouldn't even make a dent either.

Neat thought tho. I lol'ed at Balor, Nakamura, and Punk perhaps joining (I know it's only speculation for those name but nah lol).

But I would love to be wrong tho. WWE is just too freaking big right now.

[Wo1verine]

Yes please would be for the best.

sign all the talent WWE can't use properly.

Would be nice if it wasn't PG garbage as well.

[JohnPferdelack]

To get the public and major networks attention you better at least match WWE's production value, have completely
different (better storylines) and have some big stars.

And that is the chance for a new wrestling promotion: WWE has no (good) storylines, so in this case, it would be no problem to beat them. Moreover, WWE has also no big stars. The PPV in saudi-arabia was the best proof. In that main-event we didn't see guys like Seth or Drew, who could be the possible the new faces of the company. No, we saw with Kane, Undertaker, HHH and HBK the old ones, wo closed up the show...

[Spens1]

I don't know....

To get to a ROH/Impact level ok but WCW level I don't see it. The wrestling game is not an easy game the owners
better be filthy rich, a major corporation and at least billionaires because odds are you'll probably end up losing some
money especially in the beginning.

The WWE now is apart of pop culture and global and they've over saturated the market with RAW, Smackdown, NXT,
205 Live, Mix Match challenge, Mae Young Classic, NXT UK, the reality shows etc. etc. Then if you're a hardcore fan
you might also watch NJPW, ROH, Lucha Underground, Impact etc etc.

To get the public and major networks attention you better at least match WWE's production value, have completely
different (better storylines) and have some big stars. I don't know how a new company would draw either they might
have to film in one location like TNA in Orlando for awhile.

The thing that WCW had going for it was it was owned by Ted Turner who just happened to own big TV channels and
networks to give it the exposure it needed to flourish.

I don't see a major network investing in a new start up promotion where Vince has a monopoly and the failure rate
is high. Now if a major TV channel or Network wanted some good cheap programming they should buy or start up a
promotion and try to build it up and let it develop organically but I wouldn't be dreaming of being the next WCW right away.

Are they pop culture though? I'm talking about current wwe, obviously the WWF stuff certainly has been, but current WWE is hardly pop culture at all.

I agree though that it will be damn hard to get to WCW levels, but even if they get to TNA late 2000's level on spike (which drew about 2 mill per episode despite the show being the worst wrestling i think i've ever seen) then they're in good stead to compete with the current WWE.

[Spens1]

Also on the two superstars, my guess is Nakamura (expiring and not really being used despite being US champ, which could be an indication) and Rusev (New day broken up, heat with management, not really featured that heavily)

Also the Good brothers wouldn't shock me (more so because they'll be on a good gig whilst staying close to home and with tapings they'd have more time at home rather than being on the circuit), i think Balor is staying even if its in his own best interest to leave (i know he can't swear but they had a framework with the Prince Devitt character and they did a complete 180 instead).

I'd love it if Punk, even if it was the Lesnar schedule, signed just to spite Triple H (he's alright with Vince, it would be HHH he'd be after instead), shame Daniel Bryan is locked in because he'd be another one i'd love to see in on this (and he'd probably be keen on it himself).

That said, they need to make sure they sign some of the better independent talent that actually remain (i.e. Jeff Cobb and Shane Strickland) and then sign a deal with Impact given their roster is pretty good as well. the Lucha Bros would also be a good shout for this project.

[improper]

And that is the chance for a new wrestling promotion: WWE has no (good) storylines, so in this case, it would be no problem to beat them. Moreover, WWE has also no big stars. The PPV in saudi-arabia was the best proof. In that main-event we didn't see guys like Seth or Drew, who could be the possible the new faces of the company. No, we saw with Kane, Undertaker, HHH and HBK the old ones, wo closed up the show...

The issue is that they've spent the past four years building up Roman Reigns and no one else, and now Roman is gone and so they sacrificed everyone at his altar for nothing. It's why their system of building around one guy is stupid to begin with. That guy gets hurt or sick and suddenly you've got no stars at all.

And then, instead of using Roman's absence to elevate a young guy to the top of the company like Rollins, they just put the belt right back on part-timer Brock, who just used up his one quality appearance for the calendar year.

[jakecronus8]

Regardless of how this plays out, if something comes out of it, it can only be good for current wwe guys. I'm not talking kayfabe or storyline wise but it gives them Loren options, which should lead to either an easier schedule or wwe giving more pay/benefits.

[Stanford]

Has anyone suggested what the business model might be for this new company? National house shows? Regional? No house shows at all? Television? Streaming? Are wrestlers going to be allowed to sell their own merch? (this one is huge, IMO) I don't know how they're going to keep these guys under contract for competitive money without running successful house shows.

[iMoreland]

I really do hope it does become a threat to WWE because that's when WWE is at its best, but c'mon lmao. Everyone knows this is going to amount to anything.

[Scott Hall]

To get the public and major networks attention you better at least match WWE's production value, have completely
different (better storylines) and have some big stars.

And that is the chance for a new wrestling promotion: WWE has no (good) storylines, so in this case, it would be no problem to beat them. Moreover, WWE has also no big stars. The PPV in saudi-arabia was the best proof. In that main-event we didn't see guys like Seth or Drew, who could be the possible the new faces of the company. No, we saw with Kane, Undertaker, HHH and HBK the old ones, wo closed up the show...

Well with Saudi Arabia it appears the Saudis got what they paid for. They paid big money and requested to see guys
like Hogan, HBK, Taker, HHH, Angle etc. because the current guys aren't connecting with most fans.

I thought Lucha Underground had great storylines I thought everything they did was done well and it was my favorite
promotion to watch a year or 2 ago and they struggle to exist.

[Scott Hall]

I don't know....

To get to a ROH/Impact level ok but WCW level I don't see it. The wrestling game is not an easy game the owners
better be filthy rich, a major corporation and at least billionaires because odds are you'll probably end up losing some
money especially in the beginning.

The WWE now is apart of pop culture and global and they've over saturated the market with RAW, Smackdown, NXT,
205 Live, Mix Match challenge, Mae Young Classic, NXT UK, the reality shows etc. etc. Then if you're a hardcore fan
you might also watch NJPW, ROH, Lucha Underground, Impact etc etc.

To get the public and major networks attention you better at least match WWE's production value, have completely
different (better storylines) and have some big stars. I don't know how a new company would draw either they might
have to film in one location like TNA in Orlando for awhile.

The thing that WCW had going for it was it was owned by Ted Turner who just happened to own big TV channels and
networks to give it the exposure it needed to flourish.

I don't see a major network investing in a new start up promotion where Vince has a monopoly and the failure rate
is high. Now if a major TV channel or Network wanted some good cheap programming they should buy or start up a
promotion and try to build it up and let it develop organically but I wouldn't be dreaming of being the next WCW right away.

Are they pop culture though? I'm talking about current wwe, obviously the WWF stuff certainly has been, but current WWE is hardly pop culture at all.

I agree though that it will be damn hard to get to WCW levels, but even if they get to TNA late 2000's level on spike (which drew about 2 mill per episode despite the show being the worst wrestling i think i've ever seen) then they're in good stead to compete with the current WWE.

I think most people 50 and under know what Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, SummerSlam, RAW and
Smackdown are. The Rock, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are wide known celebrities. John Cena is entering Hollywood
and might be as well. Whenever you watch sports and there is a melee that breaks out the commentators usually make
a WWE or WWF reference.

This decade has been the first time ever sports networks like ESPN will report on it or have features. Brock Lesnar
and Ronday Rousey are pretty big stars in the Sports/MMA world.

The wrestling industry is a lot like other slumping parts of the entertainment industry...When was the last time
there was any good music or movies out where things were booming?

Usually when there's a big PPV or something big happens it trends worldwide on social media. When a wrestler dies
whether he was a mid carder or comedic act from the 80's it usually trends on twitter reported by most sports and
entertainment publications.

There's also more entertainment options then ever so if someone is in the mood (who isn't a hardcore fan) to watch
watch wrestling they will check out what's going on in WWE as it's perceived as the major leagues of wrestling.

[Spens1]

I don't know....

To get to a ROH/Impact level ok but WCW level I don't see it. The wrestling game is not an easy game the owners
better be filthy rich, a major corporation and at least billionaires because odds are you'll probably end up losing some
money especially in the beginning.

The WWE now is apart of pop culture and global and they've over saturated the market with RAW, Smackdown, NXT,
205 Live, Mix Match challenge, Mae Young Classic, NXT UK, the reality shows etc. etc. Then if you're a hardcore fan
you might also watch NJPW, ROH, Lucha Underground, Impact etc etc.

To get the public and major networks attention you better at least match WWE's production value, have completely
different (better storylines) and have some big stars. I don't know how a new company would draw either they might
have to film in one location like TNA in Orlando for awhile.

The thing that WCW had going for it was it was owned by Ted Turner who just happened to own big TV channels and
networks to give it the exposure it needed to flourish.

I don't see a major network investing in a new start up promotion where Vince has a monopoly and the failure rate
is high. Now if a major TV channel or Network wanted some good cheap programming they should buy or start up a
promotion and try to build it up and let it develop organically but I wouldn't be dreaming of being the next WCW right away.

Are they pop culture though? I'm talking about current wwe, obviously the WWF stuff certainly has been, but current WWE is hardly pop culture at all.

I agree though that it will be damn hard to get to WCW levels, but even if they get to TNA late 2000's level on spike (which drew about 2 mill per episode despite the show being the worst wrestling i think i've ever seen) then they're in good stead to compete with the current WWE.

I think most people 50 and under know what Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, SummerSlam, RAW and
Smackdown are. The Rock, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan are wide known celebrities. John Cena is entering Hollywood
and might be as well. Whenever you watch sports and there is a melee that breaks out the commentators usually make
a WWE or WWF reference.

This decade has been the first time ever sports networks like ESPN will report on it or have features. Brock Lesnar
and Ronday Rousey are pretty big stars in the Sports/MMA world.

The wrestling industry is a lot like other slumping parts of the entertainment industry...When was the last time
there was any good music or movies out where things were booming?

Usually when there's a big PPV or something big happens it trends worldwide on social media. When a wrestler dies
whether he was a mid carder or comedic act from the 80's it usually trends on twitter reported by most sports and
entertainment publications.

There's also more entertainment options then ever so if someone is in the mood (who isn't a hardcore fan) to watch
watch wrestling they will check out what's going on in WWE as it's perceived as the major leagues of wrestling.

That is true, but a lot of the the relevance other than Cena seems to come from stars of the past (when wrestling indeed not only was a part of pop culture, but was pop culture). Ronda and Brock got their relevancy from the UFC. When it comes to other top stars in the company they're not even relevant.

Big PPV's do trend though and WWE is the big league's of wrestling, but even then in the grand scheme of pop culture or even combat sports it still is well behind the biggest in each genre (UFC in combat sports and basically any other major TV show and significant movie franchise for pop culture). You mentioned the slump, that would be my argument as to why it isn't, the PG era to now is amongst the weakest wrestling (especially for WWE) has been globally in a long time. Most of the people who have become major pop culture icons in recent times have done it because of other things. When wrestling was in its golden era, guys like Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair became pop culture icons because of wrestling.