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Post#41 » by Bergmaniac » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:21 pm

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Dn4sty wrote:So let’s talk a bit more about Hamidou. Does this sample size tell us enough about the player he is going to be?

He struggled for sure in the 1st quarter against the Kings, but he clearly has a bunch more to his game than the usual 45th overall pick.

What current player do you see his game most closely resembling (if he hits his ceiling). I know Iguodala has been mentioned, but does anyone see anyone else?

Butler has been mentioned as a comp for Ferguson. If Diallo develops any kind of a shot I think he resembles butler more than Ferguson does. Although I don’t know if Butler is a great comparison since jimmy isn’t a freak athlete. Everything really hinges on him developing his shot. I would say right now maybe he can be a poor mans Oladipo.


I'm still going with Corey Brewer just based on the terrible jumper though he may be better in the half court than him. He does get to the rim fairly well which is surprising.

He makes way too few boneheaded plays to be the new Corey Brewer.
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Post#42 » by Dn4sty » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:52 pm

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Dn4sty wrote:So let’s talk a bit more about Hamidou. Does this sample size tell us enough about the player he is going to be?

He struggled for sure in the 1st quarter against the Kings, but he clearly has a bunch more to his game than the usual 45th overall pick.

What current player do you see his game most closely resembling (if he hits his ceiling). I know Iguodala has been mentioned, but does anyone see anyone else?

Butler has been mentioned as a comp for Ferguson. If Diallo develops any kind of a shot I think he resembles butler more than Ferguson does. Although I don’t know if Butler is a great comparison since jimmy isn’t a freak athlete. Everything really hinges on him developing his shot. I would say right now maybe he can be a poor mans Oladipo.


So maybe OKC version of Dipo?
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Post#43 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:01 pm

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Dn4sty wrote:So let’s talk a bit more about Hamidou. Does this sample size tell us enough about the player he is going to be?

He struggled for sure in the 1st quarter against the Kings, but he clearly has a bunch more to his game than the usual 45th overall pick.

What current player do you see his game most closely resembling (if he hits his ceiling). I know Iguodala has been mentioned, but does anyone see anyone else?

Butler has been mentioned as a comp for Ferguson. If Diallo develops any kind of a shot I think he resembles butler more than Ferguson does. Although I don’t know if Butler is a great comparison since jimmy isn’t a freak athlete. Everything really hinges on him developing his shot. I would say right now maybe he can be a poor mans Oladipo.


So maybe OKC version of Dipo?

Yea hopefully regular season dipo and not playoff OKC Dipo who crapped his pants.
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Post#44 » by Mattv » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:36 am

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Mattv wrote:If you remember Ad wasn't an offensive player a Kentucky look at him now I think Ferguson and Diallo will both be really good in the future Ferguson going to have to work on his body.Diallo is ahead of Ferguson.By the way dont sleep on Burton let him lose Billy.


AD led his Kentucky team in scoring.


Yeah i think your right he averaged around 13 point a game on mostly lobs and dunks but he didnt have a jumper or the fadeaway shot he has now Diallo averaged 10 point a game on alot better offense team then AD had.
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Post#45 » by Mattv » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:56 am

Diallo floor is a Portland's Wesley Matthews
With a good bit of work ethic Paul George/Jimmy Butler.
If he really wants to be great i could see him as a Kobe Bryant type player.
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Post#46 » by Dn4sty » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:13 am

Mattv wrote:Diallo floor is a Portland's Wesley Matthews
With a good bit of work ethic Paul George/Jimmy Butler.
If he really wants to be great i could see him as a Kobe Bryant type player.


Come on man. I think he will be good, but THAT good is a massive stretch
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Post#47 » by Mattv » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:45 am

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Mattv wrote:Diallo floor is a Portland's Wesley Matthews
With a good bit of work ethic Paul George/Jimmy Butler.
If he really wants to be great i could see him as a Kobe Bryant type player.


Come on man. I think he will be good, but THAT good is a massive stretch


Maybe so but if he is obsessed with being great like kobe was he got all the tools and athleticism to get somewhere in the hemisphere of Kobe.
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Post#48 » by Old Man Game » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:17 am

Well this thread just took on a whole new meaning. :-(
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Post#49 » by Pillendreher » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:41 am

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Post#50 » by Dn4sty » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:01 am

Tell me the last OKC rookie that had this in his skill set

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Post#51 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:46 pm

I’ve tried to be pretty level headed about Diallo but this kid is going to be good. His weaknesses are obvious but he just has a knack for making plays. Ferguson was so bad on defense and seems to have made a nice leap this year. I don’t think Diallo’s defense is as bad as ferg’s was last year. I just hope he makes a full recovery fairly soon.

I don’t want to overreact and say he’s untouchable in any trades but i really can’t think of many that I would be willing to include him in. I like him better than Ferguson but still like both guys. They both have potential but their rookie contracts make them exceptionally more valuable to the thunder. I just want us to add some good players without getting rid of any young pieces or major contributors. That’s totally reasonable, right?
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Post#52 » by Dn4sty » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:01 pm

Knrstz wrote:I’ve tried to be pretty level headed about Diallo but this kid is going to be good. His weaknesses are obvious but he just has a knack for making plays. Ferguson was so bad on defense and seems to have made a nice leap this year. I don’t think Diallo’s defense is as bad as ferg’s was last year. I just hope he makes a full recovery fairly soon.

I don’t want to overreact and say he’s untouchable in any trades but i really can’t think of many that I would be willing to include him in. I like him better than Ferguson but still like both guys. They both have potential but their rookie contracts make them exceptionally more valuable to the thunder. I just want us to add some good players without getting rid of any young pieces or major contributors. That’s totally reasonable, right?


I’d include Ferguson in a Porter trade, but I’d have to REALLY be convinced to move Diallo in a deal for Porter.

Diallo is closely reaching a place where I’d only be ok with moving him for a Beal type impact player.

At this point (and yes it’s early), Diallo would be a top 10 pick if there was a re-draft
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Post#53 » by spearsy23 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:23 pm

It's tough to see what Hami has really been. If he was starting on a bad team then his per 36's look like they'd be in the ROY race during a normal year, on the other hand that's probably partly a function of not having been forced to do too much. I'm still cautiously optimistic due to his draft position and lack of jumper, but the caution is fading as he continues to just find buckets even without doing any one thing particularly well.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#54 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:26 pm

spearsy23 wrote:It's tough to see what Hami has really been. If he was starting on a bad team then his per 36's look like they'd be in the ROY race during a normal year, on the other hand that's probably partly a function of not having been forced to do too much. I'm still cautiously optimistic due to his draft position and lack of jumper, but the caution is fading as he continues to just find buckets even without doing any one thing particularly well.

The talent is there. He appears coachable and hard working. That’s what gets me excited.
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Post#55 » by ThunderBolt » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:20 pm

Update from Royce. It’s officially a left ankle sprain only. Will be re-evaluated in 7-10 days.
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Post#56 » by spearsy23 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:49 pm

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Post#57 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:58 am

Nice to see him have a decent game even if some were garbage time buckets. I’m hopeful he can make the same kind of defensive improvement that we’ve seen from Ferguson.
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Post#58 » by Old Man Game » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:06 pm

There was so little in terms of depth at the SG position for so long. It almost feels sort of unfamiliar to have two young SGs that both look promising.
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Post#59 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:40 am

Old Man Game wrote:There was so little in terms of depth at the SG position for so long. It almost feels sort of unfamiliar to have two young SGs that both look promising.


I’m just glad we can agree that Ferguson looks promising. I predict he starts shooting better too as he gets stronger.


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Post#60 » by getrichordie » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:44 am

Old Man Game wrote:
Knrstz wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:So let’s talk a bit more about Hamidou. Does this sample size tell us enough about the player he is going to be?

He struggled for sure in the 1st quarter against the Kings, but he clearly has a bunch more to his game than the usual 45th overall pick.

What current player do you see his game most closely resembling (if he hits his ceiling). I know Iguodala has been mentioned, but does anyone see anyone else?

Butler has been mentioned as a comp for Ferguson. If Diallo develops any kind of a shot I think he resembles butler more than Ferguson does. Although I don’t know if Butler is a great comparison since jimmy isn’t a freak athlete. Everything really hinges on him developing his shot. I would say right now maybe he can be a poor mans Oladipo.


I'm still going with Corey Brewer just based on the terrible jumper though he may be better in the half court than him. He does get to the rim fairly well which is surprising.


Hami = Jamario Moon?


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