The Time Lord: Welcome Robert Williams!

cloverleaf · Post #1301 » by **cloverleaf** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:59 am

ParticleMan wrote:mickey was great until he got fat.
but bob is a better prospect. longer, taller, more athletic. seems to have a better feel for the game defensively at least. mickey had a solid j tho, hopefully bob can work on that.

Clearly they don't want Williams to even attempt a jumper in a game yet. But we know they are also having him work on a 3. Which tells me there's potential there that is coming along. But they want him to focus his game for now on what will get him on the floor, particularly with his prodigious gifts on D and at the rim, first.

And Mickey has shown some capability with his blocking, obviously, but also rebounding and scoring a bit. So he might be one of those guys who comes back to the league in a couple of years, ready to at least stick on someone's roster somewhere.

JHTruth · Post #1302 » by **JHTruth** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:40 pm

GuyClinch wrote:Mickey was certainly good enough to be 11-12th man on an NBA roster. I don't think he 'sucked' But I think Williams has more athleticism and is something of an athletic freak. Mickey was sneaky athletic - don't get me wrong. But Williams has some jaw dropping stuff.

I could see him leapfrogging Theis and even playing instead of Baynes some of the time. While coaches don't love his style nowadays 15 years ago this guy would have been a #1 pick, IMHO.

It's a copycat league so everyone wants to be GS. What teams are realizing, including the Celtics, is that you can't play that way unless you have historical shooting talent. Guys who can get a bunch of points at the rim are getting really valuable again.

cloverleaf · Post #1303 » by **cloverleaf** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:14 pm

JHTruth wrote:
GuyClinch wrote:Mickey was certainly good enough to be 11-12th man on an NBA roster. I don't think he 'sucked' But I think Williams has more athleticism and is something of an athletic freak. Mickey was sneaky athletic - don't get me wrong. But Williams has some jaw dropping stuff.

I could see him leapfrogging Theis and even playing instead of Baynes some of the time. While coaches don't love his style nowadays 15 years ago this guy would have been a #1 pick, IMHO.

It's a copycat league so everyone wants to be GS. What teams are realizing, including the Celtics, is that you can't play that way unless you have historical shooting talent. Guys who can get a bunch of points at the rim are getting really valuable again.

Even the Warriors aren't going to be the Warriors anymore, with DMC for the playoffs. I think the new big men are going to tilt the game a bit again.

chrisab123 · Post #1304 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:18 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:mickey was great until he got fat.
but bob is a better prospect. longer, taller, more athletic. seems to have a better feel for the game defensively at least. mickey had a solid j tho, hopefully bob can work on that.

Clearly they don't want Williams to even attempt a jumper in a game yet. But we know they are also having him work on a 3. Which tells me there's potential there that is coming along. But they want him to focus his game for now on what will get him on the floor, particularly with his prodigious gifts on D and at the rim, first.

And Mickey has shown some capability with his blocking, obviously, but also rebounding and scoring a bit. So he might be one of those guys who comes back to the league in a couple of years, ready to at least stick on someone's roster somewhere.

Mickey was nowhere close to the prospect that Williams is

Post #1305 » by **Parliament10** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:24 pm

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JHTruth · Post #1306 » by **JHTruth** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:28 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
GuyClinch wrote:Mickey was certainly good enough to be 11-12th man on an NBA roster. I don't think he 'sucked' But I think Williams has more athleticism and is something of an athletic freak. Mickey was sneaky athletic - don't get me wrong. But Williams has some jaw dropping stuff.

I could see him leapfrogging Theis and even playing instead of Baynes some of the time. While coaches don't love his style nowadays 15 years ago this guy would have been a #1 pick, IMHO.

It's a copycat league so everyone wants to be GS. What teams are realizing, including the Celtics, is that you can't play that way unless you have historical shooting talent. Guys who can get a bunch of points at the rim are getting really valuable again.

Even the Warriors aren't going to be the Warriors anymore, with DMC for the playoffs. I think the new big men are going to tilt the game a bit again.

Look at the guys who everyone wants right now. Giannis can barely shoot but puts so much pressure on the rim its crazy. Embiid of course the classic post force. We're getting back to the big man's game..

cloverleaf · Post #1307 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:30 pm

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cloverleaf · Post #1308 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:33 pm

JHTruth wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
JHTruth wrote:
It's a copycat league so everyone wants to be GS. What teams are realizing, including the Celtics, is that you can't play that way unless you have historical shooting talent. Guys who can get a bunch of points at the rim are getting really valuable again.

Even the Warriors aren't going to be the Warriors anymore, with DMC for the playoffs. I think the new big men are going to tilt the game a bit again.

Look at the guys who everyone wants right now. Giannis can barely shoot but puts so much pressure on the rim its crazy. Embiid of course the classic post force. We're getting back to the big man's game..

That's what makes Simmons's game work as well as it does, too.

Roddy · Post #1309 » by **Roddy** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:42 pm

cloverleaf wrote:

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Finally!!!!

I hope Brad will give him more than 5 minutes... :nonono:

BillessuR6 · Post #1310 » by **BillessuR6** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:12 pm

But can Williams do this?

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brackdan70 · Post #1311 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:59 pm

Williams has been pretty effective on his limited time. I’d like to see him start getting regular minutes.

jfs1000d · Post #1312 » by **jfs1000d** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:02 pm

Williams and Theis need minutes.

Seen enough of those two to know they need to get time. Move Horford to PF and play a 3-man C rotation of Williams, Theis, Baynes with Horford maybe limited at the 5.

Roddy · Post #1313 » by **Roddy** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:14 pm

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cloverleaf · Post #1314 » by **cloverleaf** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:04 pm

jfs1000d wrote:Williams and Theis need minutes.

Seen enough of those two to know they need to get time. Move Horford to PF and play a 3-man C rotation of Williams, Theis, Baynes with Horford maybe limited at the 5.

Yes! Something like 10, 15 and 23 for Williams, Theis and Baynes, respectively.

Dogen · Post #1315 » by **Dogen** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:10 am

Time Lord should be clocking 10 minutes a game. I mean, he's the friggin' TIME LORD, innit he?

Plus, he got MAD HOPS. :wizard:

Post #1316 » by **Parliament10** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:22 am

cloverleaf wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Williams and Theis need minutes.

Seen enough of those two to know they need to get time. Move Horford to PF and play a 3-man C rotation of Williams, Theis, Baynes with Horford maybe limited at the 5.

Yes! Something like 10, 15 and 23 for Williams, Theis and Baynes, respectively.

Sounds Good to me.

Kalela · Post #1317 » by **Kalela** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:36 am

Williams is a perfect player to play alongside Horford. I hope Stevens starts giving him playing time in every game however little.

Post #1318 » by **Parliament10** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:40 am

Kalela wrote:Williams is a perfect player to play alongside Horford. I hope Stevens starts giving him playing time in every game however little.

Agreed.
The Kid shows Good Promise.

3D Chess · Post #1319 » by **3D Chess** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:13 pm

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cloverleaf · Post #1320 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:20 pm

I just loved everything he said in that podcast. Wisdom beyond his years. Hope he's a Celtic for 15 years.