Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG

[Mauro Pedrosa]

We should trade for a better creator to lead our bench. I think we'll make the playoffs comfortably if we get just a little more offense.

Korkmaz would be great or even...



MARIO HEZONJA

[NickAnderson]

We lose by 25 tonight?

[bargnanimvp]

We should trade for a better creator to lead our bench. I think we'll make the playoffs comfortably if we get just a little more offense.

Korkmaz would be great or even...



MARIO HEZONJA

What's mario going to do? or was that joke?

[bargnanimvp]

We lose by 25 tonight?

is curry still out?

[OrlandoDream]

We lose by 25 tonight?

is curry still out?

Yes.......only by 24 then

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

I’m not saying that the rookies are better players than the vets that play over them, but that it makes more sense in the long term to play them over players that you aren’t building a franchise around two or even one year down the road.

I simply don’t buy the idea that young players aren’t capable of playing extended minutes. They should have the most energy at this point in their careers. Will they always look great out there? No, but when you are in asset collection as a team it doesn’t matter anyway.

Well yea if it's coin flip between them in quality sure. That's why i want to see Isaac over Iwundu or Simmons.
But in Bamba's case it's not a case .

Also it's unclear what direction of Magic is, there is solid chance they will just resign Vučević, it's not like he is 35.

It’s 100% unforgivable to spend a #6 lottery pick on a player to be a backup for the next 2-3 years on a team that has no shot at even winning their conference. WeHam won’t have the balls to do it and if they do they’ll look extremely incompetent (which they are) imo.

If the Magic resign Vuc it’s basically WeHam admitting they messed up big time with the 2016 and 2017 draft and will be the beginning of the end of their tenure in Orlando.
Resign Vuc and continue to keep the other garbage= Isaac and Bamba leave after rookie deal.

But if you are a fan of first round sweeps, then be my guest- continue to support the current course.

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

Simmons should be a starter from now on, he can't be as much of a ball hog playing with the main guys

Yeah, I don’t fully hate Simmons like others here do but he will not do well alongside Vuc and Evan. Simmons has one gear and that isn’t changing.

Simmons will not do well alongside most NBA players. He is the Blackhole of the NBA- once he gets the ball, he ain’t passing it back. Everyone knows he is going to try to ploughing his way to the basket. The rare occasion he is successful playing this way justifies his continued ball hogging

[OrlandO]

Read on Twitter

One team executive familiar with the Sixers’ wishes said they would likely settle for a first-round draft pick and a serviceable player whose salary would be close enough to Fultz’s $8.33 million to make the trade work under NBA salary cap rules.

For Orlando, the only asset that would seem to interest the Sixers is a first-round draft pick in 2020 originally belonging to Oklahoma City, although it is top 20 protected and turns into a pair of second-round picks if the Thunder do not finish with one of the worst 10 records next season.

If the Magic dealt Jonathan Simmons or a combination of Jarell Martin and Jerian Grant, the deal would work salary-cap wise. But if the Sixers had no interest in those players, a third team — likely Sacramento — could be brought in to broker a deal.

[NotACat]

Read on Twitter

One team executive familiar with the Sixers’ wishes said they would likely settle for a first-round draft pick and a serviceable player whose salary would be close enough to Fultz’s $8.33 million to make the trade work under NBA salary cap rules.

For Orlando, the only asset that would seem to interest the Sixers is a first-round draft pick in 2020 originally belonging to Oklahoma City, although it is top 20 protected and turns into a pair of second-round picks if the Thunder do not finish with one of the worst 10 records next season.

If the Magic dealt Jonathan Simmons or a combination of Jarell Martin and Jerian Grant, the deal would work salary-cap wise. But if the Sixers had no interest in those players, a third team — likely Sacramento — could be brought in to broker a deal.

I don't think Fultz is going to have much value because outside of us and the Suns, every other team has their starting PG and Fult's salary is way too much for a backup.

The Suns may not even want him if they're committed to Booker as their PG

[fendilim]

Read on Twitter

One team executive familiar with the Sixers’ wishes said they would likely settle for a first-round draft pick and a serviceable player whose salary would be close enough to Fultz’s $8.33 million to make the trade work under NBA salary cap rules.

For Orlando, the only asset that would seem to interest the Sixers is a first-round draft pick in 2020 originally belonging to Oklahoma City, although it is top 20 protected and turns into a pair of second-round picks if the Thunder do not finish with one of the worst 10 records next season.

If the Magic dealt Jonathan Simmons or a combination of Jarell Martin and Jerian Grant, the deal would work salary-cap wise. But if the Sixers had no interest in those players, a third team — likely Sacramento — could be brought in to broker a deal.

i’ll do that trade in less than a heartbeat.

[pepe1991]

Fultz as asset has more value to 76ers than any other team. I don't think they will trade him soon.

[VFX]

Well yea if it's coin flip between them in quality sure. That's why i want to see Isaac over Iwundu or Simmons.
But in Bamba's case it's not a case .

Also it's unclear what direction of Magic is, there is solid chance they will just resign Vučević, it's not like he is 35.

It’s 100% unforgivable to spend a #6 lottery pick on a player to be a backup for the next 2-3 years on a team that has no shot at even winning their conference. WeHam won’t have the balls to do it and if they do they’ll look extremely incompetent (which they are) imo.

If the Magic resign Vuc it’s basically WeHam admitting they messed up big time with the 2016 and 2017 draft and will be the beginning of the end of their tenure in Orlando.
Resign Vuc and continue to keep the other garbage= Isaac and Bamba leave after rookie deal.

But if you are a fan of first round sweeps, then be my guest- continue to support the current course.

Yeah they won’t do it for those reasons. That’s why I believe we don’t resign him for any amount.

[pepe1991]

It’s 100% unforgivable to spend a #6 lottery pick on a player to be a backup for the next 2-3 years on a team that has no shot at even winning their conference. WeHam won’t have the balls to do it and if they do they’ll look extremely incompetent (which they are) imo.

If the Magic resign Vuc it’s basically WeHam admitting they messed up big time with the 2016 and 2017 draft and will be the beginning of the end of their tenure in Orlando.
Resign Vuc and continue to keep the other garbage= Isaac and Bamba leave after rookie deal.

But if you are a fan of first round sweeps, then be my guest- continue to support the current course.

Yeah they won’t do it for those reasons. That’s why I believe we don’t resign him for any amount.

Both Isaac and Bamba can't leave, RFA status always gives Magic chance to keep them. Only thing they could potentially do is to take qual. offer and play another year with Magic. But we talk about 2022 and 2023.

[RookieStar]

Wait we get Fultz to replace Grant? sign me up

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

If the Magic resign Vuc it’s basically WeHam admitting they messed up big time with the 2016 and 2017 draft and will be the beginning of the end of their tenure in Orlando.
Resign Vuc and continue to keep the other garbage= Isaac and Bamba leave after rookie deal.

But if you are a fan of first round sweeps, then be my guest- continue to support the current course.

Yeah they won’t do it for those reasons. That’s why I believe we don’t resign him for any amount.

Both Isaac and Bamba can't leave, RFA status always gives Magic chance to keep them. Only thing they could potentially do is to take qual. offer and play another year with Magic. But we talk about 2022 and 2023.

And signing Vuc to a 2-3 year deal takes him pretty close to 2022-2023. And after multiple 8th/9th/10th finishes and drafting in the mid teens until 2023, the Orlando Magic after a decade of losing and being a pedestrian team FINALLY will decide to mercifully blow it up.

[VFX]

If the Magic resign Vuc it’s basically WeHam admitting they messed up big time with the 2016 and 2017 draft and will be the beginning of the end of their tenure in Orlando.
Resign Vuc and continue to keep the other garbage= Isaac and Bamba leave after rookie deal.

But if you are a fan of first round sweeps, then be my guest- continue to support the current course.

Yeah they won’t do it for those reasons. That’s why I believe we don’t resign him for any amount.

Both Isaac and Bamba can't leave, RFA status always gives Magic chance to keep them. Only thing they could potentially do is to take qual. offer and play another year with Magic. But we talk about 2022 and 2023.

I’m talking about Vuc.

[VFX]

Yeah they won’t do it for those reasons. That’s why I believe we don’t resign him for any amount.

Both Isaac and Bamba can't leave, RFA status always gives Magic chance to keep them. Only thing they could potentially do is to take qual. offer and play another year with Magic. But we talk about 2022 and 2023.

And signing Vuc to a 2-3 year deal takes him pretty close to 2022-2023. And after multiple 8th/9th/10th finishes and drafting in the mid teens until 2023, the Orlando Magic after a decade of losing and being a pedestrian team FINALLY will decide to mercifully blow it up.

Even though some of us have been praying to blow it up for a few years now.

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

It’s 100% unforgivable to spend a #6 lottery pick on a player to be a backup for the next 2-3 years on a team that has no shot at even winning their conference. WeHam won’t have the balls to do it and if they do they’ll look extremely incompetent (which they are) imo.

If the Magic resign Vuc it’s basically WeHam admitting they messed up big time with the 2016 and 2017 draft and will be the beginning of the end of their tenure in Orlando.
Resign Vuc and continue to keep the other garbage= Isaac and Bamba leave after rookie deal.

But if you are a fan of first round sweeps, then be my guest- continue to support the current course.

Yeah they won’t do it for those reasons. That’s why I believe we don’t resign him for any amount.

If the goal is to win championships and have a competitive team, then look for WeHam to trade Vuc at trade deadline.

If the goal is to "sell" tourists and the corporate box seat owners that the Orlando Magic are a "playoff" team, then look for Vuc to be resigned to a 3-4 deal securing our 8-10th seed finish over the next 3-4 years followed by Rebuild 4.0 in 2023.

[MagicFan4Lyfe]

Both Isaac and Bamba can't leave, RFA status always gives Magic chance to keep them. Only thing they could potentially do is to take qual. offer and play another year with Magic. But we talk about 2022 and 2023.

And signing Vuc to a 2-3 year deal takes him pretty close to 2022-2023. And after multiple 8th/9th/10th finishes and drafting in the mid teens until 2023, the Orlando Magic after a decade of losing and being a pedestrian team FINALLY will decide to mercifully blow it up.

Even though some of us have been praying to blow it up for a few years now.

I think we have some nice pieces and with Vuc playing well now, we have a tradeable asset to further add to the collection. The future of the NBA are the mobile, fast pace and athletic players- the Giannis, Porzingis, Draymonds, etc. And WeHam see that and thats why they drafted Isaac and Bamba

[VFX]

And signing Vuc to a 2-3 year deal takes him pretty close to 2022-2023. And after multiple 8th/9th/10th finishes and drafting in the mid teens until 2023, the Orlando Magic after a decade of losing and being a pedestrian team FINALLY will decide to mercifully blow it up.

Even though some of us have been praying to blow it up for a few years now.

I think we have some nice pieces and with Vuc playing well now, we have a tradeable asset to further add to the collection. The future of the NBA are the mobile, fast pace and athletic players- the Giannis, Porzingis, Draymonds, etc. And WeHam see that and thats why they drafted Isaac and Bamba

Let’s hope they know that and aren’t letting his recent play dictate their moves for the future. Otherwise, we will know this franchise only exists to sell tickets to tourists and children.