Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG
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I'll be at the game in my Magic gear cheering hard!
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fendilim wrote:Listened to a pod recently, and one of the assistant coaches said the difference lst yr and this yr is that our guys are were bought in to what clifford is preaching.
That sure seems like the case. Cliff seems to keep it real even when he talks to the media.
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I still want an Isaac city edition or blue throwback. Do they even exist? I can't find one anywhere.
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:We can win that game with out AG.NavalAviator94 wrote:RookieStar wrote:So AG probably on the bench against POR? Good news is, only Zach is a certified *big* magic killer, bad news is, they have 2 all star guards while we have.... *gulp* DJ , Grant and Evan to slow them down
Yeah, we’re not winning that game. They have 2 Allstar PG’s directing things who we can’t touch.
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Not if they get superstar calls like in GSW.
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NavalAviator94 wrote:RookieStar wrote:So AG probably on the bench against POR? Good news is, only Zach is a certified *big* magic killer, bad news is, they have 2 all star guards while we have.... *gulp* DJ , Grant and Evan to slow them down
Yeah, we’re not winning that game. They have 2 Allstar PG’s directing things who we can’t touch.
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on the flip side, those 2 PG's cant defend a paper bag
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tiderulz wrote:NavalAviator94 wrote:RookieStar wrote:So AG probably on the bench against POR? Good news is, only Zach is a certified *big* magic killer, bad news is, they have 2 all star guards while we have.... *gulp* DJ , Grant and Evan to slow them down
Yeah, we’re not winning that game. They have 2 Allstar PG’s directing things who we can’t touch.
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on the flip side, those 2 PG's cant defend a paper bag
bad news is... does anyone really need to guard fourney grant and/or simmons?
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NavalAviator94 wrote:pepe1991 wrote:InFlames wrote:Isaac looked like hes an inch and a half taller than Durant.
Who cares?
His size bothered Lebron more than Durant. Durant just went at him at will.
I don't get fascination with size of players in league where half of recorded weight and size is fake.
I’m pretty fascinated Boban can dunk standing. Damn
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I had chance to see him on street.
Don't know how to even explain it, guy's fist is bigger than some people

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InFlames wrote:pepe1991 wrote:InFlames wrote:Isaac looked like hes an inch and a half taller than Durant.
Who cares?
His size bothered Lebron more than Durant. Durant just went at him at will.
I don't get fascination with size of players in league where half of recorded weight and size is fake.
Strange post. I was just pointing out how tall Isaac looks and used Durant as a comparison. I never said anything about him defending Lebron or Durant so I don't even know what you are on about.
Because lot of fans bother too much with who is taller, who weights more and things like that.
Durant insisted to be listed as 6'9 comming from college for same reason Isaac didn't want to be listed as 7 footer this summer. Because in their mind it would change their basketball position.
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fendilim wrote:Listened to a pod recently, and one of the assistant coaches said the difference lst yr and this yr is that our guys are were bought in to what clifford is preaching.
This.
You can feel that the players are working their asses off for the coach and the organization.
I had a coach like that in my basketball team, he sold me on a project , trusting me and yelling at me when something was wrong.I was reluctant at the begining but when I saw us starting winning games and moving the ball well I trusted his abilities. That was muy best season in term of stats

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Historically the Magic has been horrible from games 25-35 over this 6-year rebuild. See image below.
Looking over the next 20+ games, a 50% record seems quite reasonable. Is this the beginning of the end of our misery???
Thu, Nov 29 @
Portland
Sat, Dec 1 @
Phoenix
Wed, Dec 5 @
Miami
Thu, Dec 6 vs
Denver
Sat, Dec 8 vs
Indiana
Tue, Dec 11 @
Dallas
Fri, Dec 14 vs
Chicago *
Sat, Dec 15 vs
Utah *
Thu, Dec 20 vs
San Antonio
Sat, Dec 22 @
Chicago
Sun, Dec 23 vs
Miami
Thu, Dec 27 vs
Phoenix
Sat, Dec 29 vs
Toronto
Sun, Dec 30 vs
Detroit
Mon, Dec 31 @
Charlotte
Thu, Jan 3 @
Chicago
Sat, Jan 5 @
Minnesota
Sun, Jan 6 @
LA
Tue, Jan 8 @
Sacramento

Looking over the next 20+ games, a 50% record seems quite reasonable. Is this the beginning of the end of our misery???
Thu, Nov 29 @
Portland
Sat, Dec 1 @
Phoenix
Wed, Dec 5 @
Miami
Thu, Dec 6 vs
Denver
Sat, Dec 8 vs
Indiana
Tue, Dec 11 @
Dallas
Fri, Dec 14 vs
Chicago *
Sat, Dec 15 vs
Utah *
Thu, Dec 20 vs
San Antonio
Sat, Dec 22 @
Chicago
Sun, Dec 23 vs
Miami
Thu, Dec 27 vs
Phoenix
Sat, Dec 29 vs
Toronto
Sun, Dec 30 vs
Detroit
Mon, Dec 31 @
Charlotte
Thu, Jan 3 @
Chicago
Sat, Jan 5 @
Minnesota
Sun, Jan 6 @
LA
Tue, Jan 8 @
Sacramento

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RookieStar wrote:tiderulz wrote:NavalAviator94 wrote:
Yeah, we’re not winning that game. They have 2 Allstar PG’s directing things who we can’t touch.
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on the flip side, those 2 PG's cant defend a paper bag
bad news is... does anyone really need to guard fourney grant and/or simmons?
i bet Evan puts up 20
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Evan has been playing quite good defense lately, bit foul prone, but we just have to hope he gets his shot together. Watching his videos, he is putting a lot of pressure on himself this year, he knows he isn't shooting well and is not like he's just given up out there. Got to shoot through this. We have Ross picking up the slack now and hopefully we can drag along around .500 until our shooting guard can start shooting like normal again.
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rcklsscognition wrote:Evan has been playing quite good defense lately, bit foul prone, but we just have to hope he gets his shot together. Watching his videos, he is putting a lot of pressure on himself this year, he knows he isn't shooting well and is not like he's just given up out there. Got to shoot through this. We have Ross picking up the slack now and hopefully we can drag along around .500 until our shooting guard can start shooting like normal again.
We have historical data that proves his slump is a fluke and I understand that he needs to come out of that slump but trying to come out of that slump, I believe cost us the GSW game. So maybe better in game management when trying to get shots to fall.
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:Evan has been playing quite good defense lately, bit foul prone, but we just have to hope he gets his shot together. Watching his videos, he is putting a lot of pressure on himself this year, he knows he isn't shooting well and is not like he's just given up out there. Got to shoot through this. We have Ross picking up the slack now and hopefully we can drag along around .500 until our shooting guard can start shooting like normal again.
We have historical data that proves his slump is a fluke and I understand that he needs to come out of that slump but trying to come out of that slump, I believe cost us the GSW game. So maybe better in game management when trying to get shots to fall.
The weird thing is he's shooting a career high 45% on "wide open" threes, but it drops all the way to 12% on "open" threes... doesn't make any sense.
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Hes in a Janurary Vince Carter level slump.OrlandO wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:Evan has been playing quite good defense lately, bit foul prone, but we just have to hope he gets his shot together. Watching his videos, he is putting a lot of pressure on himself this year, he knows he isn't shooting well and is not like he's just given up out there. Got to shoot through this. We have Ross picking up the slack now and hopefully we can drag along around .500 until our shooting guard can start shooting like normal again.
We have historical data that proves his slump is a fluke and I understand that he needs to come out of that slump but trying to come out of that slump, I believe cost us the GSW game. So maybe better in game management when trying to get shots to fall.
The weird thing is he's shooting a career high 45% on "wide open" threes, but it drops all the way to 12% on "open" threes... doesn't make any sense.
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magicman112 wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:
That's the biggest difference. He's holding these guys accountable and they've been responding. It's going to take time still but you can tell a difference.
Finally some accountability from a Magic coach, actually setting high standards and not wishy washy crap.
aka: prorl
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OrlandO wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:Evan has been playing quite good defense lately, bit foul prone, but we just have to hope he gets his shot together. Watching his videos, he is putting a lot of pressure on himself this year, he knows he isn't shooting well and is not like he's just given up out there. Got to shoot through this. We have Ross picking up the slack now and hopefully we can drag along around .500 until our shooting guard can start shooting like normal again.
We have historical data that proves his slump is a fluke and I understand that he needs to come out of that slump but trying to come out of that slump, I believe cost us the GSW game. So maybe better in game management when trying to get shots to fall.
The weird thing is he's shooting a career high 45% on "wide open" threes, but it drops all the way to 12% on "open" threes... doesn't make any sense.
i think the faster SG's are bothering him more than playing at SF the last 2 years.
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On Evan I think part of it is the mentality change, he's passing more and not taking/forcing some of the shots he used to take. Could be messing with his rhythm and his head trying not to be a black hole and play his natural game. He's had times he's forced things sure but he's deferring a lot more than previous years going by the eye test
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When are people going to realize that Evan simply needs to be replaced?
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See how long it takes for a thread to pop up about why we should sign Isaiah Cannan
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