John Lynch Should Be Fired; Will He Be?

[Pattersonca65]

the fact that we're not going to look good for awhile would make the Jimmy G trade seem like a waste. We probably can't/won't field a true overall competitive team til Jimmy's 4th yr LOL

Dude just turned 27, so I'm fine with the team not being good until he's 30. Either he's got it or he doesn't, but he's got a decade in him if he does have it, so you don't let the caliber of the team around him factor into the decision to trade for him.

In some ways, having a terrible season this year may be a blessing in disguise. If we could land a guy like Bosa, that would address our #1 weakness. We still have lots of holes, and we desperately need Witherspoon and/or Moore to pan out at CB, but adding an impact pass rusher can cover up a lot of weaknesses. On offense, I think we could return this cast with Jimmy and McKinnon and be fine, though obviously there are several areas where you'd like to upgrade.

I wouldn't be opposed to trying out Moore at his natural safety position of it is a better fit. The safety position is not as settled as it looked during the offseason.

[CrimsonCrew]

As memory serves, Sick (and pretty much everyone else except me) was ready to jump ship on McCloughan back around 2007. I'm certainly not equating Lynch to McCloughan as an evaluator, but there is a tendency to jump the gun when things aren't going well.

Actually, I loved the 2007 draft, and I was And I don't remember ever calling for McCloughan to be fired. I hated the Crabtree pick with a passion in 2009, and I hated drafting Anthony Davis at 10 or 11 the next year (that was after McCloughan was fired for being drunk, but the draft board was probably set by then).

McClouhgan being fired was a surprise to me & to everyone who didn't know he was a boozehound.

Baalke, on the other hand, I wanted fired after the 2013 NFC Championship game because he was clueless enough to think the team had a future with Kaeptard at QB. If you can't see that he was never going to be a good QB, you have no business being a scout in the NFL, much less a GM.

And I never liked the Lynch hire in the first place. I hated the 2017 draft, and I think he's out of his league.

People came around on McCloughan, of course, but there was a period there when pretty much everyone was calling for his head. You may not have been one of them, but if so, you were in a very small minority.

[CrimsonCrew]

Kyle shanny just lost to the Bucs... Then once again threw the team under the bus... just like many good coaches are known for

There are some legit questions about Shanahan as a HC, but he gets a pass this year. We're starting Nick Mullens at QB for God's sake (though, in fairness, that's because Mullens has arguably played better than Shanahan's hand-picked guy). We have literally no outside pass rush. We don't have the players to compete right now. Obviously his offensive scheme is very effective. The bigger question is defense and the bigger-picture stuff. And, until this week at least, the team has not given up despite a lost season. That's a testament to the HC, though the inability to finish those close games is a glaring red flag. Though there again, with Jimmy at QB, we were winning those close ones.

[NinerSickness]

People came around on McCloughan, of course, but there was a period there when pretty much everyone was calling for his head. You may not have been one of them, but if so, you were in a very small minority.

Weird. I don't remember any of that, and it doesn't make sense because he had an excellent 2007 draft, a decent 2006 draft (I think he was making the picks in 2006), and it was too soon to tell that the 2008 draft was a bust when he was fired for being drunk on the job.

But I'll take your word for it.

[I_am_1z]

People came around on McCloughan, of course, but there was a period there when pretty much everyone was calling for his head. You may not have been one of them, but if so, you were in a very small minority.

Weird. I don't remember any of that, and it doesn't make sense because he had an excellent 2007 draft, a decent 2006 draft (I think he was making the picks in 2006), and it was too soon to tell that the 2008 draft was a bust when he was fired for being drunk on the job.

But I'll take your word for it.

I remember you calling him scotch mccloughan for the longest. As well as other names that labeled him a drunk

[I_am_1z]

Kyle shanny just lost to the Bucs... Then once again threw the team under the bus... just like many good coaches are known for

There are some legit questions about Shanahan as a HC, but he gets a pass this year. We're starting Nick Mullens at QB for God's sake (though, in fairness, that's because Mullens has arguably played better than Shanahan's hand-picked guy). We have literally no outside pass rush. We don't have the players to compete right now. Obviously his offensive scheme is very effective. The bigger question is defense and the bigger-picture stuff. And, until this week at least, the team has not given up despite a lost season. That's a testament to the HC, though the inability to finish those close games is a glaring red flag. Though there again, with Jimmy at QB, we were winning those close ones.

Let's be honest now... The only thing keeping Shanahan off the hot seat is his prestige. Kliff Kingsbury is a legitiment upgrade at the HC position, if he's available, that should be our direction.

[NinerSickness]

I remember you calling him scotch mccloughan for the longest.

Ummmmm.... No you don't.

But that has nothing to do with what we were talking about because the booze jokes came AFTER he was fired. We were talking about people who wanted him fired when he was still the GM.

[CrimsonCrew]

People came around on McCloughan, of course, but there was a period there when pretty much everyone was calling for his head. You may not have been one of them, but if so, you were in a very small minority.

Weird. I don't remember any of that, and it doesn't make sense because he had an excellent 2007 draft, a decent 2006 draft (I think he was making the picks in 2006), and it was too soon to tell that the 2008 draft was a bust when he was fired for being drunk on the job.

But I'll take your word for it.

Really? Kind of blows my mind. There was absolute hatred for McCloughan in the 2007 season. I guess this was back on the ESPN boards, so I can't pull up any of those old threads.

[wco81]

Lombardi said Kyle needs help, last two drafts were bungled and no talent on the team.

[NinerSickness]

People came around on McCloughan, of course, but there was a period there when pretty much everyone was calling for his head. You may not have been one of them, but if so, you were in a very small minority.

Weird. I don't remember any of that, and it doesn't make sense because he had an excellent 2007 draft, a decent 2006 draft (I think he was making the picks in 2006), and it was too soon to tell that the 2008 draft was a bust when he was fired for being drunk on the job.

But I'll take your word for it.

Really? Kind of blows my mind. There was absolute hatred for McCloughan in the 2007 season. I guess this was back on the ESPN boards, so I can't pull up any of those old threads.

The BSPN boards were gone in 2007, but the hoopla threads should still be there.

[Pattersonca65]

Weird. I don't remember any of that, and it doesn't make sense because he had an excellent 2007 draft, a decent 2006 draft (I think he was making the picks in 2006), and it was too soon to tell that the 2008 draft was a bust when he was fired for being drunk on the job.

But I'll take your word for it.

Really? Kind of blows my mind. There was absolute hatred for McCloughan in the 2007 season. I guess this was back on the ESPN boards, so I can't pull up any of those old threads.

The BSPN boards were gone in 2007, but the hoopla threads should still be there.

The Hoopla threads only go back to 2010/2011

[YoungMoney23]

Pettis looked great today, way too early to write him off

[I_am_1z]

We must have the worst strength and conditioning coaches in the league. Any kind of soft tissue injury during the season plagues our guys the rest of the year