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PG Thread: On the flipside, even though what we do is wrong, there's levels to this tank. The truth!(remi recap pg 19)

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Re: PG Thread: On the flipside, even though what we do is wrong, there's levels to this tank. The truth! 

Post#61 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:32 am

Newyorknick94 wrote:Role players don’t play good when there’s no ball movement a lot of our young guys right now are role players so when guys pound the ball iso and freeze guys out the role players look like garbage we need an offensive system in the worst way I don’t see a difference between Fiz and Woodson tbh


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Post#62 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:32 am

K P 6 wrote:I’m seriously happy knox showed some glimpses that he might be breaking out


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Post#63 » by blueNorange » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:33 am

"all star" tommy chuckaway officially shooting under 40% :lol: :lol:

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Post#64 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:33 am

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Frank Ntilikina: 0-5 FG% 0-2 3PT 0PTS 2ASST


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Post#65 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:33 am

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He can’t be a bust because he’s already elite at some aspect of the game.


He looking like a bust. An 8th pick shouldn't be a complete zero on offense. Shumpert was picked #21 and had better offense. That is sad.

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Post#66 » by 2010 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:34 am

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He has no outside shot. Once he gets that he will be fine. He needs more seasoning. At 22 he will be good.


No outside shot. No inside shot. No midrange shot. No layup ability. No dribble. No ability to create for others or himself. Dude should have been a 2nd round pick.

Shumpert was what 23 when we drafted him he was a sr in college I bet if you took 18 year old shumpert and put him in the Nba he’d look worse than frank


Your argument is based on progression with age. Yet it doesn't make sense considering Frank is regressing statistically.

At this rate at the age of 23 Frank will be worse offensively than his rookie season. You know whose career arc that follows? Iman Shumpert, a #21 pick.

Y'all can name-drop Giannis, Kawhi, J'rue all you want. At this point it's all hype and a fairy tale. Dude has showed nothing to be in the conversation with those players.
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Post#67 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:34 am

dakomish23 wrote:
Newyorknick94 wrote:Role players don’t play good when there’s no ball movement a lot of our young guys right now are role players so when guys pound the ball iso and freeze guys out the role players look like garbage we need an offensive system in the worst way I don’t see a difference between Fiz and Woodson tbh


Having a legitimate focal point like KP will help a lot too
KP needs to show that he is at a franchise player level. right now he is all about flashes and potential. He needs a full season as a dominant player before being anointed a saviour.

unfortunately we will max him out this summer and be hamstrung for the next 5 years.

I would seriously listen to offers for him right now. Phil was correct.
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Post#68 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:34 am

blueNorange wrote:"all star" tommy chuckaway officially shooting under 40% :lol: :lol:

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When bref updates, check his stats the last 5 games

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Post#69 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:35 am

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Newyorknick94 wrote:Role players don’t play good when there’s no ball movement a lot of our young guys right now are role players so when guys pound the ball iso and freeze guys out the role players look like garbage we need an offensive system in the worst way I don’t see a difference between Fiz and Woodson tbh


Having a legitimate focal point like KP will help a lot too
KP needs to show that he is at a franchise player level. right now he is all about flashes and potential. He needs a full season as a dominant player before being anointed a saviour.

unfortunately we will max him out this summer and be hamstrung for the next 5 years.

I would seriously listen to offers for him right now. Phil was correct.


We can agree to disagree
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Post#70 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:35 am

seren wrote:Per 36 minutes, Ntilikina is averaging fewer assists than his rookie season. You know who else is below their career assist averages? Mudiay (3.9 per 36 - a career low by far), and Burke (5.4 per 36 this year, below career average and way below last year).

Take that for data!


No team in the last 15 years has had a worst assist to fg rate. Only a handful of teams have avg less assists per game the past 15 years. Its brutal and coaching is a huge part
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Post#71 » by 2010 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:35 am

blueNorange wrote:"all star" tommy chuckaway officially shooting under 40% :lol: :lol:

*.397%


When he was at 43% FG you were a church mouse though.
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Post#72 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:36 am

dakomish23 wrote:
tuna108 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Having a legitimate focal point like KP will help a lot too
KP needs to show that he is at a franchise player level. right now he is all about flashes and potential. He needs a full season as a dominant player before being anointed a saviour.

unfortunately we will max him out this summer and be hamstrung for the next 5 years.

I would seriously listen to offers for him right now. Phil was correct.


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Post#73 » by IllmaticHandler » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:36 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
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Frank Ntilikina: 0-5 FG% 0-2 3PT 0PTS 2ASST


Are these your SG's:

THJr 1-11 FG
Burke 1-6 FG

The Trash Brothers


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Post#74 » by dakomish23 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:37 am

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seren wrote:Per 36 minutes, Ntilikina is averaging fewer assists than his rookie season. You know who else is below their career assist averages? Mudiay (3.9 per 36 - a career low by far), and Burke (5.4 per 36 this year, below career average and way below last year).

Take that for data!


No team in the last 15 years has had a worst assist to fg rate. Only a handful of teams have avg less assists per game the past 15 years. Its brutal and coaching is a huge part


Everything is iso. Post ups / top of the key.
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Post#75 » by blueNorange » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:37 am

2010 wrote:Real talk. Frank looking like a bust.

you said we're foolish to think chuckaway can't improve in year 6 :lol:

burke stans still hold onto him dear tight when it took him to not suck totally in year 4 :lol:

but frank is a bust because he's not what you unrealistically assumed he'd be. :lol:
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Post#76 » by Phish Tank » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:38 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
2010 wrote:
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He can’t be a bust because he’s already elite at some aspect of the game.


He looking like a bust. An 8th pick shouldn't be a complete zero on offense. Shumpert was picked #21 and had better offense. That is sad.

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Post#77 » by Juco24 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:38 am

Frank and Baker for Faultz. Clear up a roster spot. Faultz had to be picked #1 for a reason. Philly is trying to make it to the Finals. Frank's defense can help.
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Post#78 » by god shammgod » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:39 am

tommy always has these long hot streaks and cold streaks. in the month of november he's shooting .388 and .337 from 3.
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Post#79 » by K_ick_God » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:39 am

At least we do have some young guys who look good.

KP
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Knox can get there.

Some junk too but that can be fixed.
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