Pointgod wrote:Wizardspride wrote:Wizardspride wrote:A question for the hardcore Trump supporters (mainly SD20/Nate):
IF Trump perjured himself while answering Mueller's questions, does that change your opinion?
Just want to get everyone on the record.
I'd like a response to this please.
Thanks.
Crickets.....,..
sorry wizardspride, i didn't think you actually wanted an actual answer to this rhetorical nonsense. But if you insist.
If Trump meaningfully perjures himself i'll go on record as saying that could be a red line for me. I'll reserve the right to define meaningfully for myself thank you very much and I'll reserve the right to define any type of punishment for crossing such a red line. But Impeachment would not be off the table if the perjury is meaningful enough.
Thats said, wow...you guys really chopping on that "russian ties to business bone today, huh?"
1. Even though we already knew about this quelched deal during the transition? And by "deal" i do mean a "pitched" deal.
2. Even though (as a private citizen) he already hosted his pageant in russia?
3. Even though Manaforte had worked for 2 russian friendly Ukraine politcians?
4. Even though he is a Global Billionaire that sells condos to foreigners including those from the middle east, russia, and others while he was a private citizen running his company?
You...know its been 25 years since i bought and flipped my first condo which gave me the seed money to begin buying income property....You could call me a very very poor man's Donald Trump. I also own many businesses. I am currently closing on a multi dental practice purchase to build my "Enpire" (muahahahaha)
...to date I've closed on more than 400 real estate transactions. Some i made some money. Some I lost some money. Some i still have and make a little money on each month. Do you have any idea as to how many "deals" got away? Take a guess? There was a time from 2010-2012 (god, those were dark and gloomy years but i digress) that I was making actual offers (submitting contracts) to purchase over 10 properties per day (200 per month)...about 1-2 would be accepted. I met with agents. Spoke to them on the phone. Sometimes met with sellers directly. Toured properties. Drove by. Even kicked in a few doors (that were stuck). We held tons of preliminary talks...and the deal fell apart on 95% of them...and these were 2 flats! 3 flats! 4 flats!So you want me to be worried about trump leveraging his massive popularity uptick in 2016 as a potential presidential candidate to boost a business deal? I would too!!! He was down 5-7 points against HRC and 10-12 against bernie. And probably was still having internal debates as to whether or not he even wanted to be president...i mean why put yourself through this If you are already worth $8 Billion?
And to trump Russia was not a boogie man. No one is a boogie man. Look i'm not a billionaire...but i am a millionaire...many time over. And I can tell you...people get less scary when you know the law, under stand the law, and have the ability to pay the best lawyers in the world. Trump aint afraid of no one. because he understand people. You dont get to where he is at without understanding people extremely well.
So all of this...outrage...over every little thing he does...its just political spin. There are no crimes here...and there are not even misrepresentations. trump is an international businessman. I assume someone from every single state department in the entire world has at least stayed at one of his hotels and possible even met him or bought something from him. So what! There will only be a problem if trump compromises the citizens of the USA in exchange for personal gain. and quite the opposite has occurred since he took office. His Brand has took a major hit with half the country. liberal media has successfully branded him toxically (for liberals) and most of trump's base cant afford his products. <--I'm guessing they open up a modest brand of motels 8's across middle america or something else.
But right now...the only criminals i can find are the Clintons and the Obama's are looking to take a page from their book...tours around the world selling access to foreign states. <--and if Trump does that!! Then I'll be upset. If trump forms a charity...collects tens of millions from foreign bad actors like the Clintons did under the Bush and Obama watch, no less...i mean under Obama's very nose as he fell for it and made her secretary of state while BIll Clinton is collecting massive checks overseas!!
Thats a problem! Uranium One is still a problem!! Those are crimes against the american people, enriching themselves while selling access to our heads of state! But you seriously want me to (worry about) or question a real estate deal that never occurred!!?? No money changed hands!!??? While he was a private citizen????!!
Come on! find some consistency!
