Official Speculation Thread ‘18-19’: XIX: Rise of the BIG

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #1841 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 5:32 pm

Skybox wrote:I think we have to admit (grudgingly) that this is good-looking sustainable basketball under Clifford. We're not shooting lights out from 3. We've cut down mistakes and are moving the ball, mostly through Vuc...I think at the trade deadline, we trade Vuc (and pick?) OR Bamba (I said it) for significant player who can score in big moments from the wing or, preferably, point. Hopefully, Bamba will have shown enough by then to make him the keeper....BOOM-let me have it

If we traded Bamba and lost Vucevic in free agency this place with self destruct :lol:

Skybox · Post #1842 » by **Skybox** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 7:04 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:I think we have to admit (grudgingly) that this is good-looking sustainable basketball under Clifford. We're not shooting lights out from 3. We've cut down mistakes and are moving the ball, mostly through Vuc...I think at the trade deadline, we trade Vuc (and pick?) OR Bamba (I said it) for significant player who can score in big moments from the wing or, preferably, point. Hopefully, Bamba will have shown enough by then to make him the keeper....BOOM-let me have it

If we traded Bamba and lost Vucevic in free agency this place with self destruct

True...but I don't think he'd do it. Have to be a deal in place (behind the scenes).

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #1843 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 7:12 pm

Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:I think we have to admit (grudgingly) that this is good-looking sustainable basketball under Clifford. We're not shooting lights out from 3. We've cut down mistakes and are moving the ball, mostly through Vuc...I think at the trade deadline, we trade Vuc (and pick?) OR Bamba (I said it) for significant player who can score in big moments from the wing or, preferably, point. Hopefully, Bamba will have shown enough by then to make him the keeper....BOOM-let me have it

If we traded Bamba and lost Vucevic in free agency this place would self destruct

True...but I don't think he'd do it. Have to be a deal in place (behind the scenes).

If we traded Bamba to simply give Vuc a 4yr/80m this place would self destruct.

Skybox · Post #1844 » by **Skybox** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 7:13 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
If we traded Bamba and lost Vucevic in free agency this place would self destruct

True...but I don't think he'd do it. Have to be a deal in place (behind the scenes).

If we traded Bamba to simply give Vuc a 4yr/80m this place would self destruct.

I don't care about this place...doubt WeHam does either

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #1845 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 7:20 pm

Skybox wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
True...but I don't think he'd do it. Have to be a deal in place (behind the scenes).

If we traded Bamba to simply give Vuc a 4yr/80m this place would self destruct.

I don't care about this place...doubt WeHam does either

Well we care about you, hope you have a better day.

rcklsscognition · Post #1846 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 7:26 pm

Just having a look at the schedule through to Christmas. We need at minimum to go 6-4 which I think is baseline expectation here on the location of the games and the opponents. A success would be 7-3 and I would honestly be hoping for 8-2. We've got 4 good opponents which I hope we pick up 2 wins against, and then the rest are poor to decent and opponents should be wins.

That could have us near the end of December at 18-15.

RookieStar · Post #1847 » by **RookieStar** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 9:58 pm

You know, I never though I would say this, but aside from the PG, we kinda need to look athe the PF as well. Look what happened when AG got hurt, Isaac stepped up to be sure but when he was in foul trouble or needed a spell ( heck when we know he's gonna be injured ) we all look at Jarell Martin????

In this small-ball age why can't our SF play PFs like what other teams do? Iwundu,Ross? Who are those supposedly long-armed rookies we have that's rotting on the bench?

Ducklett · Post #1848 » by **Ducklett** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 9:59 pm

I dont want to be winning games with Evan still on the roster

Post #1849 » by **Knightro** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 10:11 pm

RookieStar wrote:You know, I never though I would say this, but aside from the PG, we kinda need to look athe the PF as well. Look what happened when AG got hurt, Isaac stepped up to be sure but when he was in foul trouble or needed a spell ( heck when we know he's gonna be injured ) we all look at Jarell Martin????

In this small-ball age why can't our SF play PFs like what other teams do? Iwundu,Ross? Who are those supposedly long-armed rookies we have that's rotting on the bench?

So our third string power forward needs to be upgraded?

Maybe a little lower on the priority scale than other spots. I dunno.

WeAreVenom · Post #1850 » by **WeAreVenom** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 10:24 pm

Anyone else no longer willing to trade for Fultz? Shouldn't take this many specialists and examinations to figure out what's wrong.....

Furinkazan · Post #1851 » by **Furinkazan** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 11:00 pm

WeAreVenom wrote:Anyone else no longer willing to trade for Fultz? Shouldn't take this many specialists and examinations to figure out what's wrong.....

as I have said before Id take a chance if it cost a late 2nd and Simmons...Trading Simmons is making us better

and as we know 2nd rounders are nothing since drafts flatten out fast.

tiderulz · Post #1852 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Dec 1, 2018 11:06 pm

WeAreVenom wrote:Anyone else no longer willing to trade for Fultz? Shouldn't take this many specialists and examinations to figure out what's wrong.....

who knows whats wrong. If he got injured biking like a rumor says, he could be feeding false information to doctors because it might void his contract or have penalties

fendilim · Post #1853 » by **fendilim** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 12:23 am

fklt wrote:vuc 11th in the whole league in RPM. with 4.82, just behind giannis.

Exactly what good coaching makes.

Devicing schemes to cover up player’s weaknesses.

Sad short sighted people didnt see it.

RookieStar · Post #1854 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 1:16 am

Knightro wrote:
RookieStar wrote:You know, I never though I would say this, but aside from the PG, we kinda need to look athe the PF as well. Look what happened when AG got hurt, Isaac stepped up to be sure but when he was in foul trouble or needed a spell ( heck when we know he's gonna be injured ) we all look at Jarell Martin????

In this small-ball age why can't our SF play PFs like what other teams do? Iwundu,Ross? Who are those supposedly long-armed rookies we have that's rotting on the bench?

So our third string power forward needs to be upgraded?

Maybe a little lower on the priority scale than other spots. I dunno.

Naaaah It's a low-key dig to trade our so far useless SG/SF ( meaning Fourney and Simmons ) for a SG/PF in the mold of MKG,Batum, etc etc.

Seriously though, have you ever seen us with 1 center be it Vuc or Bamba with the next biggest guy a SF be it Ross or Simmons?

RookieStar · Post #1855 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 1:16 am

Also.. Frank Nktiwitwsgf didn't play tonight. Incoming trade?

STRAP IN!!!

OrlandO · Post #1856 » by **OrlandO** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 1:38 am

RookieStar wrote:Also.. Frank Nktiwitwsgf didn't play tonight. Incoming trade?

STRAP IN!!!

Probably because he sucks... 0 points the last two games. Ntilikina and Grant are now tied in games with 0 points at 5 each.

WeAreVenom · Post #1857 » by **WeAreVenom** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 2:21 am

tiderulz wrote:
WeAreVenom wrote:Anyone else no longer willing to trade for Fultz? Shouldn't take this many specialists and examinations to figure out what's wrong.....

who knows whats wrong. If he got injured biking like a rumor says, he could be feeding false information to doctors because it might void his contract or have penalties

True, but I'm sure the team and doctors have heard the same rumors we've heard.

I don't think it's physical at all, personally. And if he's lying about it then that's an even bigger red flag....

I'd be cool with giving up a 2nd and/or Simmons, but literally nothing else.

VFX · Post #1858 » by **VFX** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 2:47 am

OrlandO wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Also.. Frank Nktiwitwsgf didn't play tonight. Incoming trade?

STRAP IN!!!

Probably because he sucks... 0 points the last two games. Ntilikina and Grant are now tied in games with 0 points at 5 each.

Kinda hard to score when you’ve played a combined 20 minutes in the last 3 games. Maybe that has something to do with it.

yoyojw17 · Post #1859 » by **yoyojw17** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 2:56 am

RookieStar wrote:Also.. Frank Nktiwitwsgf didn't play tonight. Incoming trade?

STRAP IN!!!

Checks to see if the report shows "Jerian Grant sitting out due to a hang nail" lol

OrlandO · Post #1860 » by **OrlandO** » Sun Dec 2, 2018 3:09 am

MagicMatic wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Also.. Frank Nktiwitwsgf didn't play tonight. Incoming trade?

STRAP IN!!!

Probably because he sucks... 0 points the last two games. Ntilikina and Grant are now tied in games with 0 points at 5 each.

Kinda hard to score when you’ve played a combined 20 minutes in the last 3 games. Maybe that has something to do with it.

More like kind of hard to score when you suck at scoring. He shot 29% in November. He's a below average scorer... this isn't news. And I don't know what you're looking at, but I'm talking about his 30 combined minutes over 2 games. 0 points. Same amount he scored in 22 minutes against us. Same amount he scored tonight in a DNP. Same amount as you and I scored in the NBA. Zero.