Wizards asking for Miles and Monk

[MoneyTalks41890]

MKG, Lamb, Monk, Bridges is the minimum imo, but honestly I’d be shocked if Washington reactively trades Beal for that return.

[Monky15]

Seems a bit light and Washington should really look for a rim protector with All Star potential. They still have OPJ, Oubre, Brown on the wing with Beal leaving. So if not a big then you want a big perimeter player because they have an All Star SG currently that didn't work out for them up until now.

[Monky15]

Would the Mavs give up Mathews. DSJ, 1st? Seems as good an offer if not better because of the expiring coming back and the destination team being in the opposite conference.

[NavalAviator94]

There is no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Hornets don’t have the resources to do this and stay competitive. Too many other teams can provide more value for Beal. Sorry Hornet fans but Kemba will be gone.


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[marcush]

Hornets should be taking that deal ASAP

[Eskobar13]

There is no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Hornets don’t have the resources to do this and stay competitive. Too many other teams can provide more value for Beal. Sorry Hornet fans but Kemba will be gone.


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That's not entirely true.

Beal for Monk, Bridges, Zeller, Kaminsky 19 1st + 21 1st is not bad at all. Take Zeller out for MKG and I doubt the Wizards will get anything better than that.

[getrichordie]

There is no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Hornets don’t have the resources to do this and stay competitive. Too many other teams can provide more value for Beal. Sorry Hornet fans but Kemba will be gone.


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That's not entirely true.

Beal for Monk, Bridges, Zeller, Kaminsky 19 1st + 21 1st is not bad at all. Take Zeller out for MKG and I doubt the Wizards will get anything better than that.

Yeah, but what are you left over with? Do you think that’s a team that can contend in the East? I don’t think so.


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[Eskobar13]

There is no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Hornets don’t have the resources to do this and stay competitive. Too many other teams can provide more value for Beal. Sorry Hornet fans but Kemba will be gone.


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That's not entirely true.

Beal for Monk, Bridges, Zeller, Kaminsky 19 1st + 21 1st is not bad at all. Take Zeller out for MKG and I doubt the Wizards will get anything better than that.

Yeah, but what are you left over with? Do you think that’s a team that can contend in the East? I don’t think so.


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Well, Beal can get almost all of Bridges and Monk minutes and is obviously the much better player right now. Hernangomez should already be getting a lot of Zeller's minutes, or at least all of Frank's, so that's not an issue either.

Kemba, Marvin W, Beal, MKG (playing the best ball of his career), Batum, Willy, Parker and Lamb is right there with the Pacers (and the Pistons?!) and certainly close to the tier above. It's not ideal but if you're set on re-signing Kemba than it's definitely not a bad outlook compared to what they currently have. Between Bacon, Willy and maybe even Beal, there's also still some upside on the roster. Those picks wouldn't be that great either anyway.

Ideally you would retain one of Monk/Bridges but I doubt you can, specially Bridges.

[GatorbaitDD]

Hornets should do that deal

[Dat2U]

Beal would be in a Hornets uniform already if this was all it took. I don't buy the rumor. This seems like a really light return for a young all-star signed for another 2.5 seasons.

[pcbothwel]

Agreed. I like Lamb and REALLY like Miles...
I think a Miles, Monk, Lamb, Hernangomez, Filler (Zeller or MKG) for Beal & Oubre would be great for both teams as a foundation of a trade. Pick from Hornets can be negotiated.

[jbk1234]

There is no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Hornets don’t have the resources to do this and stay competitive. Too many other teams can provide more value for Beal. Sorry Hornet fans but Kemba will be gone.


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Miles is the best single trade asset I've seen discussed so far (it's not clear that the Hornets have made him available). But I don't see the Celtics as bidders, and at least so far, the Lakers don't appear to have made any of their prospects available. The value of any first round picks sent out will necessarily be diminished by the fact that the acquiring team is getting Beal. I suspect the rubber meets the road in terms of what filler is sent back.

[Stillwater]

Agreed. I like Lamb and REALLY like Miles...
I think a Miles, Monk, Lamb, Hernangomez, Filler (Zeller or MKG) for Beal & Oubre would be great for both teams as a foundation of a trade. Pick from Hornets can be negotiated.

MJ aint giving up that much future for Beal.

[FlatearthZorro]

Miles and Monk is pretty fair + some middling pick. I'd say if it was for example from the C's it'd take Rozier/Brown/pick and probably a filler(dunno who)...

[pcbothwel]

Agreed. I like Lamb and REALLY like Miles...
I think a Miles, Monk, Lamb, Hernangomez, Filler (Zeller or MKG) for Beal & Oubre would be great for both teams as a foundation of a trade. Pick from Hornets can be negotiated.

MJ aint giving up that much future for Beal.

Its quantity for quality. Monk has ZERO value with his salary and lack of production.
I really like Bridges and thinks he plays in the league for 10-12 years easy, but his ceiling appears to be an elite 3 & D player. VERY Valuable, but he'll never come close to what Beal is/will be over the next 3 years.
Hernangomez looks like a solid Big man who will also be in the league a long time. But its become quite clear over the last few years the value of Non-Superstar bigs is limited at best.

Personally, I think the Wiz are in Zero rush to move any of our big 3 players. This trade doesnt excite me and I was simply trying to put together a decent foundation, but the Hornets have neither a premium pick or prospect to offer.

***BTW. I really think the Wild Card team are the Suns. Take a page from Houston and run a 2 guard lineup with Beal & Booker both acting as the playmaking guards that spread the floor.

[Dat2U]

There is no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Hornets don’t have the resources to do this and stay competitive. Too many other teams can provide more value for Beal. Sorry Hornet fans but Kemba will be gone.


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Miles is the best single trade asset I've seen discussed so far (it's not clear that the Hornets have made him available). But I don't see the Celtics as bidders, and at least so far, the Lakers don't appear to have made any of their prospects available. The value of any first round picks sent out will necessarily be diminished by the fact that the acquiring team is getting Beal. I suspect the rubber meets the road in terms of what filler is sent back.

He's not actively being dealt so you won't hear of potential assets he could be moved for. The original trade rumor was floated to motivate Wall & Beal, not to actually move them. Charlotte is the one that's aggressively pursuing Beal.

I've heard nothing of Beal being shopped to other teams at this point.

[Dat2U]

Agreed. I like Lamb and REALLY like Miles...
I think a Miles, Monk, Lamb, Hernangomez, Filler (Zeller or MKG) for Beal & Oubre would be great for both teams as a foundation of a trade. Pick from Hornets can be negotiated.

I don't. I don't think acquiring a bunch of B or C-level assets does us much good unless were content to just re-arrange deck chairs on the titanic to end up with a team with a lower ceiling.

I prefer one really good asset over a bunch of okay ones.

I'd rather trade for the highest possible pick in next years draft then settle for a couple of recent mid-1st rounders.

Keep in mind, Memphis would have taken a Beal for the 4th & Parsons in a heartbeat last year. That picked turned out to be Jaren Jackson Jr.

[Stillwater]

Agreed. I like Lamb and REALLY like Miles...
I think a Miles, Monk, Lamb, Hernangomez, Filler (Zeller or MKG) for Beal & Oubre would be great for both teams as a foundation of a trade. Pick from Hornets can be negotiated.

MJ aint giving up that much future for Beal.

Its quantity for quality. Monk has ZERO value with his salary and lack of production.
I really like Bridges and thinks he plays in the league for 10-12 years easy, but his ceiling appears to be an elite 3 & D player. VERY Valuable, but he'll never come close to what Beal is/will be over the next 3 years.

I think MJ is higher on Monk than he should be and that you could be right in that WAS wouldn't see the value there, but I also disagree that Bridges isn't still considered capable of becoming a player of similar impact and value as Beal is now down the road.

[amcoolio]

MKG, Lamb, Monk, Bridges is the minimum imo, but honestly I’d be shocked if Washington reactively trades Beal for that return.

Beal is not worth that, and Charlotte would not trade that

[amcoolio]

Why are we writing off Monk at 20 years old who has shown he can take over quarters with hot shooting streaks? Yes he needs more work, but he has several NBA skills.