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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#101 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:18 pm

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They were literally better across the board with Melo on the bench, and now not even dressing. They are struggling, and yet they're still better without him.


i'd say it was a joke and not OT, since this is an around the NBA thread. thread designed for one-off comments about anything in the league.

3toheadmelo just randomly continued his obsession with the draft passing of DSJ. pointed? sure. OT? nah. not in this case.

greenie- mitch/awy was spicy, but you be spicy too on players you don't like.

awy- melo is still a sensitive subject here. this could be seen as baiting. let's all have a chill pill.

-JVG

sorry. it just sucks to see DSJ progressing and frank regressing. DSJ is turning into an actual 2 way player while frank is still a one way player :nonono:


it wasn't a shot at you, my guy. you have every right to have your opinions on NBA players. sorry to bring you into it.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#102 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:25 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
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i'd say it was a joke and not OT, since this is an around the NBA thread. thread designed for one-off comments about anything in the league.

3toheadmelo just randomly continued his obsession with the draft passing of DSJ. pointed? sure. OT? nah. not in this case.

greenie- mitch/awy was spicy, but you be spicy too on players you don't like.

awy- melo is still a sensitive subject here. this could be seen as baiting. let's all have a chill pill.

-JVG

sorry. it just sucks to see DSJ progressing and frank regressing. DSJ is turning into an actual 2 way player while frank is still a one way player :nonono:


It might have something to do with DSjr playing in a system and for a coach who has actually given him a pretty long leash...

Also, I wouldn’t say one defensive stop, or one good defensive game, means anyone is becoming a two way player. His defense has improved from last year, but that’s partly because the bar was so low. We’ll see if it lasts, because he’s had some pretty terrible outings this year too.

his defense has been much better as of lately. it's not just one game. even mecca pointed it out not too long ago as well

i do agree about your first statement though. i dunno how he would've developed here. knicks could've ruined him for all we know. oh well. knicks keep knicking at the end of the day.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#103 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:29 pm

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awy wrote:harden probably just player tanked to get melo out of there lmao

I’m just gonna continue to report your trolls. It’s old.


Houston has played more games without Melo this year. They are still struggling and currently are out of the playoffs.


They were literally better across the board with Melo on the bench, and now not even dressing. They are struggling, and yet they're still better without him.


They were 4-6 with Melo.
7-6 without. Not much better if at all. They were 5-5 in the 10 games(even sample size) right after Melo was Marburied.

Games missed with Melo:
Paul (2)
Harden(3)
Gordon(3)

FG% with Melo:
Paul(37%)
Harden(44%)
Gordon(32%)

For the record Melo played all of those games and shot 40%.

Keep blaming Melo. Literally everyone was struggling and all you see is Melo. That’s beyond fuqed up. That team isn’t good and the core of it didn’t have anything to do with Melo, especially being that he wasn’t anything near a core piece to that team. It’s literally like blaming Lee for the Knicks being ****.

Also, if you wanna play your stat game, keep that same energy and like dude said acknowledge Melo made their defense better.....

Cause that’s what the stats say.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#104 » by Rasho Brezec » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:29 pm

Since that loss to us, Mavs went 10-3.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#105 » by RHODEY » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:35 pm

knicksh20b wrote:
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dakomish23 wrote:
This is what I’m talking about. You’re so adamant about defending what this organization did that you didn’t even comprehend what the original post was about.

It comes down to this:

Would you rather do what we did - sign THJ, play the vets over the kids, end up with Knox?

OR

Have cap space, focus on the kids, have better chance to end up with Doncic?

I think we know the answer.


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Dako, don't bother with this guy. If a guy can't take off the homer glasses to see when he's wrong, then there's no use.

Even NYKMentality was able to realize when he was wrong at times.



:nod: I'm wrong..and those other team fans that didn't manage to luck into DONCIC were wrong too. And boy I wish I had one of those other rooks who can put up empty stats during losing efforts. They are all finished products after all , the pecking order is set in stone . Every single one of them are leagues better than Knox -a guy he helped take down the Bucks last week. Please don't bother with me. :-?
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#106 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:41 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:I’m just gonna continue to report your trolls. It’s old.


Houston has played more games without Melo this year. They are still struggling and currently are out of the playoffs.


They were literally better across the board with Melo on the bench, and now not even dressing. They are struggling, and yet they're still better without him.


They were 4-6 with Melo.
7-6 without. Not much better if at all. They were 5-5 in the 10 games(even sample size) right after Melo was Marburied.

Games missed with Melo:
Paul (2)
Harden(3)
Gordon(3)

FG% with Melo:
Paul(37%)
Harden(44%)
Gordon(32%)

For the record Melo played all of those games and shot 40%.

Keep blaming Melo. Literally everyone was struggling and all you see is Melo. That’s beyond fuqed up. That team isn’t good and the core of it didn’t have anything to do with Melo, especially being that he wasn’t anything near a core piece to that team. It’s literally like blaming Lee for the Knicks being ****.

Also, if you wanna play your stat game, keep that same energy and like dude said acknowledge Melo made their defense better.....

Cause that’s what the stats say.


My stat game? Holy ****, Greenie...it's not only the stats. But, yeah, let's see...

Team stats - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/on-off/2019; https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612745/onoffcourt-summary/

Can you please post Paul, Harden, and Gordon's FG% withOUT Melo?

I'm not blaming Melo for Houston's struggles. As I've said in the past, he's AN issue, not necessarily THE issue. I'm just tired of people thinking he can still be some impact player, when the evidence tends to show otherwise.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#107 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:43 pm

The Rockets aren’t less talented without Melo.
They are the same. I’m not delusional on Melo. He’s not a difference maker anymore. He may have moments, but Melo is not that guy anymore. At best he’s a role player off the bench(where he was) in a specific task of getting a few buckets.

You can’t expect him to replace a starting and bench defensive specialists. Can’t do it. Melo is for bench depth. He’s not swinging talent pools.

That’s why people look dumb when they are trying to blame him for the underachieving Rockets who have:

James Harden
Chris Paul
Clint Capela
Eric Gordon

and are coached by everyone’s favorite Mike D’Antoni.

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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#108 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:44 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
They were literally better across the board with Melo on the bench, and now not even dressing. They are struggling, and yet they're still better without him.


They were 4-6 with Melo.
7-6 without. Not much better if at all. They were 5-5 in the 10 games(even sample size) right after Melo was Marburied.

Games missed with Melo:
Paul (2)
Harden(3)
Gordon(3)

FG% with Melo:
Paul(37%)
Harden(44%)
Gordon(32%)

For the record Melo played all of those games and shot 40%.

Keep blaming Melo. Literally everyone was struggling and all you see is Melo. That’s beyond fuqed up. That team isn’t good and the core of it didn’t have anything to do with Melo, especially being that he wasn’t anything near a core piece to that team. It’s literally like blaming Lee for the Knicks being ****.

Also, if you wanna play your stat game, keep that same energy and like dude said acknowledge Melo made their defense better.....

Cause that’s what the stats say.


My stat game? Holy ****, Greenie...it's not only the stats. But, yeah, let's see...

Team stats - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/on-off/2019; https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612745/onoffcourt-summary/

Can you please post Paul, Harden, and Gordon's FG% withOUT Melo?

I'm not blaming Melo for Houston's struggles. As I've said in the past, he's AN issue, not necessarily THE issue. I'm just tired of people thinking he can still be some impact player, when the evidence tends to show otherwise.



You know what? I’m done with this **** with you.
You don’t like Melo and that’s cool. I’m not here to play bash Melo with you. Foe list me.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#109 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:45 pm

We really need to be able to put anyone on the foe list. Tired of bull.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#110 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:45 pm

Watching luka makes me hat this orginization even more.
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Re: Around the NBA 2 

Post#111 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:46 pm

Greenie wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
They were 4-6 with Melo.
7-6 without. Not much better if at all. They were 5-5 in the 10 games(even sample size) right after Melo was Marburied.

Games missed with Melo:
Paul (2)
Harden(3)
Gordon(3)

FG% with Melo:
Paul(37%)
Harden(44%)
Gordon(32%)

For the record Melo played all of those games and shot 40%.

Keep blaming Melo. Literally everyone was struggling and all you see is Melo. That’s beyond fuqed up. That team isn’t good and the core of it didn’t have anything to do with Melo, especially being that he wasn’t anything near a core piece to that team. It’s literally like blaming Lee for the Knicks being ****.

Also, if you wanna play your stat game, keep that same energy and like dude said acknowledge Melo made their defense better.....

Cause that’s what the stats say.


My stat game? Holy ****, Greenie...it's not only the stats. But, yeah, let's see...

Team stats - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/on-off/2019; https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612745/onoffcourt-summary/

Can you please post Paul, Harden, and Gordon's FG% withOUT Melo?

I'm not blaming Melo for Houston's struggles. As I've said in the past, he's AN issue, not necessarily THE issue. I'm just tired of people thinking he can still be some impact player, when the evidence tends to show otherwise.



You know what? I’m done with this **** with you.
You don’t like Melo and that’s cool. I’m not here to play bash Melo with you. Foe list me.


Where did I say I didn’t like Melo? I’m not bashing Melo, either. This is bizarre. I’m not gonna foe list you, either - I’m not petty like that, lol.

Idk why you feel the need to cape for him, though. People don’t even need to say anything negative for you to get up in arms...it’s weird.
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Post#112 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Dec 5, 2018 3:49 pm

These Melo arguments do not sound very grown-up. I don't want to sound spiteful here, I really don't, but there's no point in defending or attacking the man. He's a legend and he's been comparably bad for years to the point that three pro-environments have given up on him. So what, that's the coming of age.
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Post#113 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:02 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
My stat game? Holy ****, Greenie...it's not only the stats. But, yeah, let's see...

Team stats - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/on-off/2019; https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612745/onoffcourt-summary/

Can you please post Paul, Harden, and Gordon's FG% withOUT Melo?

I'm not blaming Melo for Houston's struggles. As I've said in the past, he's AN issue, not necessarily THE issue. I'm just tired of people thinking he can still be some impact player, when the evidence tends to show otherwise.



You know what? I’m done with this **** with you.
You don’t like Melo and that’s cool. I’m not here to play bash Melo with you. Foe list me.


Where did I say I didn’t like Melo? I’m not bashing Melo, either. This is bizarre. I’m not gonna foe list you, either - I’m not petty like that, lol.

Idk why you feel the need to cape for him, though. People don’t even need to say anything negative for you to get up in arms...it’s weird.


You don’t have to say you don’t like Melo. Your posts show it. Plenty of people don’t like him. Your prerogative.

You are in fact petty. That’s why you posted those stats and said you’re “running” away.

It’s also why you had something to say to me after I quoted a poster saying Harden was tanking to get rid of Melo.

It’s passive aggressive. I know because I’m passive aggressive my damn self. The only thing bizzare is that you don’t see it. Taking backhanded jabs at a dude not even dressed is petty.
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Post#114 » by awy » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:05 pm

it's not melo it's the melo stans. but whatever this is fine.
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Post#115 » by 1999 » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:06 pm

Greenie wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:

You know what? I’m done with this **** with you.
You don’t like Melo and that’s cool. I’m not here to play bash Melo with you. Foe list me.


Where did I say I didn’t like Melo? I’m not bashing Melo, either. This is bizarre. I’m not gonna foe list you, either - I’m not petty like that, lol.

Idk why you feel the need to cape for him, though. People don’t even need to say anything negative for you to get up in arms...it’s weird.


You are in fact petty. That’s why you posted those stats and said you’re “running” away.

It’s also why you had something to say to me after I quoted a poster saying Harden was tanking to get rid of Melo.

It’s passive aggressive. I know because I’m passive aggressive my damn self. The only thing bizzare is that you don’t see it. Taking backhanded jabs at a dude not even dressed is petty.


Right, I’m no melo fan but it’s sad at this point how he keeps getting dragged into nearly every convo. His career is likely over at this point. Just wish ppl would be honest and say they enjoy throwing the jabs rather than act coy about it.


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Post#116 » by GONYK » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:06 pm

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Post#117 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:08 pm

Greenie wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:

You know what? I’m done with this **** with you.
You don’t like Melo and that’s cool. I’m not here to play bash Melo with you. Foe list me.


Where did I say I didn’t like Melo? I’m not bashing Melo, either. This is bizarre. I’m not gonna foe list you, either - I’m not petty like that, lol.

Idk why you feel the need to cape for him, though. People don’t even need to say anything negative for you to get up in arms...it’s weird.


You are in fact petty. That’s why you posted those stats and said you’re “running” away.

It’s also why you had something to say to me after I quoted a poster saying Harden was tanking to get rid of Melo.

It’s passive aggressive. I know because I’m passive aggressive my damn self. The only thing bizzare is that you don’t see it. Taking backhanded jabs at a dude not even dressed is petty.


But I'm not petty. I follow Jacob and Dean on Twitter and saw that post, so I posted it. I posted it and "ran away" because I know how anything Melo related usually starts ****, going BOTH ways. For the 50th time, Melo was a problem but not the problem.

I responded to your post because you ignored the fact that they have played better with him on the bench / not suiting up than with him on the court. It wasn't a backhanded jab, it was a statistical fact that Houston has played better without him...I don't get why you think every post that doesn't make Melo's name glisten is an attack. I'd also guess than awy's post was a tongue in cheek joke, but I really have no idea.

Petty != passive aggressive. I know I'm (very) passive aggressive, but I also know I'm far from petty.
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Post#118 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:09 pm

awy wrote:it's not melo it's the melo stans. but whatever this is fine.

Nah. It’s you.

First post you made in this new thread was....

“Melo sucks”
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Post#119 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:12 pm

Greenie wrote:
awy wrote:it's not melo it's the melo stans. but whatever this is fine.

Nah. It’s you.

First post you made in this new thread was....

“Melo sucks”

he literally started this mess and tried to play the victim :rofl:
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Post#120 » by Greenie » Wed Dec 5, 2018 4:24 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Where did I say I didn’t like Melo? I’m not bashing Melo, either. This is bizarre. I’m not gonna foe list you, either - I’m not petty like that, lol.

Idk why you feel the need to cape for him, though. People don’t even need to say anything negative for you to get up in arms...it’s weird.


You are in fact petty. That’s why you posted those stats and said you’re “running” away.

It’s also why you had something to say to me after I quoted a poster saying Harden was tanking to get rid of Melo.

It’s passive aggressive. I know because I’m passive aggressive my damn self. The only thing bizzare is that you don’t see it. Taking backhanded jabs at a dude not even dressed is petty.


But I'm not petty. I follow Jacob and Dean on Twitter and saw that post, so I posted it. I posted it and "ran away" because I know how anything Melo related usually starts ****, going BOTH ways. For the 50th time, Melo was a problem but not the problem.

I responded to your post because you ignored the fact that they have played better with him on the bench / not suiting up than with him on the court. It wasn't a backhanded jab, it was a statistical fact that Houston has played better without him...I don't get why you think every post that doesn't make Melo's name glisten is an attack. I'd also guess than awy's post was a tongue in cheek joke, but I really have no idea.

Petty != passive aggressive. I know I'm (very) passive aggressive, but I also know I'm far from petty.


It is a jab. Like I said, dude isn’t even playing. Why we keep bringing him up? I know why. To take unnecessary shots. Melo the problem, but they still looking suspect and Melo isn’t playing.

You keep saying Melo was A problem but not THE problem. That’s double talk. What IS the actual problem since you wanna play both sides? You only ever seem to address the guy that’s A problem and he’s not even playing anymore.

Bottom line is, Melo is irrelevant to what you see in Houston. They have literally played more games without him than with him. Address that.

Nah...

Melo is A problem.

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