Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

[jayu70]

Viable trade targets that could help the Rockets

Kent Bazemore, Atlanta Hawks

The current version of Bazemore is a higher-usage player than anyone else on this list. He’s less of a spot-up threat (only 24 percent of his shots are catch-and-shoot jumpers) and more of an all-around player who creates a healthy portion of Atlanta’s offense and runs a fair number of pick-and-rolls. But, says the East exec, “Before he turned into what he is now, he was more of a defender than anything.”

In fact, Bazemore is currently in the midst of his most impactful defensive season—the Hawks are better by 10 points per 100 defensive possessions when he’s on the court. He can also stretch the floor. While Bazemore is only shooting 30 percent from downtown this season, he nailed 42 percent of his catch-and-shoot threes last season—the shots Harden and Paul routinely create for their teammates.

He also might be more attainable than the other targets because of his hefty contract. Bazemore is due to make another $19 million next season should he (wisely) exercise his contract option; swapping him for Brandon Knight would save the Hawks nearly $4 million next summer. Throw in a second-round pick and the rebuilding Hawks would have a hard time saying no.

Granted, Bazemore is only 6’5”, but he’s strong enough to battle when switching onto bigger players. As the East exec says, “I think he would make them infinitely better than what they’re playing with.”

The Athletic

Been saying Baze to rockets for a year now.

OKC is another team to look at, with a another setback for Roberson. Not sure what they have we'd want.
They can lower protection from the Dennis 1st round pick.

[MaceCase]

What are you offering not named Fultz? (The latest news on him and his support system or lack thereof is not encouraging for his mental health). Your 2019 1st is currently #26, so not good enough.
Zhair Smith is intriging but a Jones facture, then requiring surgery from allergic reaction????

I'd be fine with Fultz on the strength that a trade/change of scenery may unlock a decent NBA guy. Fultz is a bag o' red flags though so it should cost PHI to get rid of him.

Toss in a 1st and something like Bolden or Furkan for our trouble. Why not?

I'm kinda over Printz for us, but on a competitive team he'd be great.

Here's what scares me about Fultz (besides that Ainge passed on him):
1. Does he really have a shoulder injury or is it all in his head?
2. If it's a legitimate injury - that's an easy enough fix
3. If it's all in his head, that harder to fix - particularly if he hasn't accepted he has that issue. The first step to fixing a problem is admittimg you have one.
4. Most times a change of scenery may help a player, but this seems different - are the Hawks equipped to handle the extra that will come with him?

I'll attempt my best AHFenese and say "six of one and a half dozen of the other". I think he legitimately hurt himself and coupled with other pressure never legitimately recovered mentally.

[Spud2nique]

The Athletic

Been saying Baze to rockets for a year now.

OKC is another team to look at, with a another setback for Roberson. Not sure what they have we'd want.
They can lower protection from the Dennis 1st round pick.

Terrance Ferguson.

[kg01]

Been saying Baze to rockets for a year now.

OKC is another team to look at, with a another setback for Roberson. Not sure what they have we'd want.
They can lower protection from the Dennis 1st round pick.

Terrance Ferguson.

I wanted that dude bad last season (hehe) but, the reality is he's been put in position to take over that role and IIUC he's been pretty meh. Maybe the reports of his greatness were premature?

On a similar note, where are all the reports of the Bell kid from GSt being equally great? He's been pretty blah, IIUC.

[Spud2nique]

OKC is another team to look at, with a another setback for Roberson. Not sure what they have we'd want.
They can lower protection from the Dennis 1st round pick.

Terrance Ferguson.

I wanted that dude bad last season (hehe) but, the reality is he's been put in position to take over that role and IIUC he's been pretty meh. Maybe the reports of his greatness were premature?

On a similar note, where are all the reports of the Bell kid from GSt being equally great? He's been pretty blah, IIUC.

Yup I remember you had a thing for Fergie. The guy looks like a solid wing to me as far as being a great size and build to cover 1-3. I think his offense will come around because he definitely has shown some signs that he has some moves.

If OKC is in win now mode, would they take in a Baze, Ded, Lin for him possibly..throw in that Cavs pick too it’ll be a second rounder anyways it seems as the shameless Cavs are out there begging again...pathetic Cavs. Shame on you.

[kg01]

Terrance Ferguson.

I wanted that dude bad last season (hehe) but, the reality is he's been put in position to take over that role and IIUC he's been pretty meh. Maybe the reports of his greatness were premature?

On a similar note, where are all the reports of the Bell kid from GSt being equally great? He's been pretty blah, IIUC.

Yup I remember you had a thing for Fergie. The guy looks like a solid wing to me as far as being a great size and build to cover 1-3. I think his offense will come around because he definitely has shown some signs that he has some moves.

If OKC is in win now mode, would they take in a Baze, Ded, Lin for him possibly..throw in that Cavs pick too it’ll be a second rounder anyways it seems as the shameless Cavs are out there begging again...pathetic Cavs. Shame on you.

That offer smells a little heavy for an unproven like Ferg though. And a pick? Nah, too heavy.

[jayu70]

Terrance Ferguson.

I wanted that dude bad last season (hehe) but, the reality is he's been put in position to take over that role and IIUC he's been pretty meh. Maybe the reports of his greatness were premature?

On a similar note, where are all the reports of the Bell kid from GSt being equally great? He's been pretty blah, IIUC.

Yup I remember you had a thing for Fergie. The guy looks like a solid wing to me as far as being a great size and build to cover 1-3. I think his offense will come around because he definitely has shown some signs that he has some moves.

If OKC is in win now mode, would they take in a Baze, Ded, Lin for him possibly..throw in that Cavs pick too it’ll be a second rounder anyways it seems as the shameless Cavs are out there begging again...pathetic Cavs. Shame on you.

Wait..what? All of Baze, Ded, Lin and Cavs pick for Ferg?
OKC is in cap hell, so the most the can do is take Dedmon or Lin (maybe) into the TPE they got from the Melo trade eithput sending is back salary. But the Hawks aren't trading them for nothing.

[Spud2nique]

I wanted that dude bad last season (hehe) but, the reality is he's been put in position to take over that role and IIUC he's been pretty meh. Maybe the reports of his greatness were premature?

On a similar note, where are all the reports of the Bell kid from GSt being equally great? He's been pretty blah, IIUC.

Yup I remember you had a thing for Fergie. The guy looks like a solid wing to me as far as being a great size and build to cover 1-3. I think his offense will come around because he definitely has shown some signs that he has some moves.

If OKC is in win now mode, would they take in a Baze, Ded, Lin for him possibly..throw in that Cavs pick too it’ll be a second rounder anyways it seems as the shameless Cavs are out there begging again...pathetic Cavs. Shame on you.

Wait..what? All of Baze, Ded, Lin and Cavs pick for Ferg?
OKC is in cap hell, so the most the can do is take Dedmon or Lin (maybe) into the TPE they got from the Melo trade eithput sending is back salary. But the Hawks aren't trading them for nothing.

I meant one of them not all lol..we ain’t charity.

[kg01]

Yup I remember you had a thing for Fergie. The guy looks like a solid wing to me as far as being a great size and build to cover 1-3. I think his offense will come around because he definitely has shown some signs that he has some moves.

If OKC is in win now mode, would they take in a Baze, Ded, Lin for him possibly..throw in that Cavs pick too it’ll be a second rounder anyways it seems as the shameless Cavs are out there begging again...pathetic Cavs. Shame on you.

Wait..what? All of Baze, Ded, Lin and Cavs pick for Ferg?
OKC is in cap hell, so the most the can do is take Dedmon or Lin (maybe) into the TPE they got from the Melo trade eithput sending is back salary. But the Hawks aren't trading them for nothing.

I meant one of them not all lol..we ain’t charity.

Ahhh, that makes more sense.

[Spud2nique]

OKC is another team to look at, with a another setback for Roberson. Not sure what they have we'd want.
They can lower protection from the Dennis 1st round pick.

Terrance Ferguson.

I wanted that dude bad last season (hehe) but, the reality is he's been put in position to take over that role and IIUC he's been pretty meh. Maybe the reports of his greatness were premature?

On a similar note, where are all the reports of the Bell kid from GSt being equally great? He's been pretty blah, IIUC.

Speaking of morons...Bell tried the tMac off the board last night ...what a cocky loser U HAVENT DONE ANYTHING KID.

[Spud2nique]

Wait..what? All of Baze, Ded, Lin and Cavs pick for Ferg?
OKC is in cap hell, so the most the can do is take Dedmon or Lin (maybe) into the TPE they got from the Melo trade eithput sending is back salary. But the Hawks aren't trading them for nothing.

I meant one of them not all lol..we ain’t charity.

Ahhh, that makes more sense.

Ya no not all at once unless they hot girls lol

[Jamaaliver]

Four NBA Players Who Are Primed to Move to a Contender This Season

Trevor Ariza is reportedly a trade candidate. Who else could swap teams before the year is up?



Kent Bazemore, Atlanta Hawks

Before the season, the Bucks were thought to be eyeing Bazemore. As were the Rockets. And the Pelicans. He’s due $18 million this season and $19 million the next, sure, but #FREEBAZEMORE. Like Ariza, Bazemore can inject 3-and-D straight into the veins of a poor-shooting, poor-defensive, poor-energy team. (Disclaimer: The Baze Gaze is off-kilter this season; he’s shooting a career-low 29.3 percent from 3. Dedicated to the tank! Sacrificing his stats! Team player!)

The Ringer

[Jamaaliver]

I do like him as a trade target. Though, I'm not sure he's a perfect fit with Trae or JC.
(He'd mesh well with Huerter...in theory.)

Read on Twitter

If the New York Knicks move on from Frank Ntilikina, the Atlanta Hawks would be an excellent fit for the second-year guard.

So far, Ntilikina has played 61 percent of his minutes at point guard and 39 percent at the off-guard spot, per Basketball-Reference. He’s played in 23 games and started just 14. Several teams have expressed interest, with as many as five teams interested in Ntilikina, creating a stir that he might be available.

For the Atlanta Hawks, Ntilikina is not only a good fit for where the Hawks are on the contention timeline, but he’s an excellent roster fit for a team that could use a bit more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Sitting at 23rd in the league in defensive efficiency, the Hawks could use some help on that end of the floor.

Through his first 100 games in the NBA, Ntilikina has shown an advanced defensive acumen. As a rookie, he was one of the league’s best players in defending the pick-and-roll. When you combine his defensive intelligence with his great size — he’s 6’7″ with a 7’0″ wingspan — you have a potential perimeter force on the defensive end.

In terms of a roster fit, Frank Ntilikina would be the yin to Trae Young’s yang.

For all the positives on the defensive side of the ball, Ntilikina has struggled as an offensive option. While he can handle the ball, he doesn’t have traditional point guard creation skills. From a viewer’s perspective, it doesn’t seem fluid with Ntilikina as the lead ball-handler and lead creator. It comes and goes with him just getting to the rim, too.

The biggest wart on his list of weaknesses is his shooting. Most good players have the ability to either shoot or pass and right now, Ntilikina has struggled to do either at a high level. As a rookie, he shot under 40 percent and is doing the same thing this season, only with 25.7 percent shooting from 3-point range.

Ideally, Ntilikina could evolve into a player similar to George Hill. From an on-court fit, Ntilikina and Young fit together perfectly on both sides of the ball. However, how much will he cost in a trade?

[jayu70]

I do like him as a trade target. Though, I'm not sure he's a perfect fit with Trae or JC.
(He'd mesh well with Huerter...in theory.)

Read on Twitter

If the New York Knicks move on from Frank Ntilikina, the Atlanta Hawks would be an excellent fit for the second-year guard.

So far, Ntilikina has played 61 percent of his minutes at point guard and 39 percent at the off-guard spot, per Basketball-Reference. He’s played in 23 games and started just 14. Several teams have expressed interest, with as many as five teams interested in Ntilikina, creating a stir that he might be available.

For the Atlanta Hawks, Ntilikina is not only a good fit for where the Hawks are on the contention timeline, but he’s an excellent roster fit for a team that could use a bit more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Sitting at 23rd in the league in defensive efficiency, the Hawks could use some help on that end of the floor.

Through his first 100 games in the NBA, Ntilikina has shown an advanced defensive acumen. As a rookie, he was one of the league’s best players in defending the pick-and-roll. When you combine his defensive intelligence with his great size — he’s 6’7″ with a 7’0″ wingspan — you have a potential perimeter force on the defensive end.

In terms of a roster fit, Frank Ntilikina would be the yin to Trae Young’s yang.

For all the positives on the defensive side of the ball, Ntilikina has struggled as an offensive option. While he can handle the ball, he doesn’t have traditional point guard creation skills. From a viewer’s perspective, it doesn’t seem fluid with Ntilikina as the lead ball-handler and lead creator. It comes and goes with him just getting to the rim, too.

The biggest wart on his list of weaknesses is his shooting. Most good players have the ability to either shoot or pass and right now, Ntilikina has struggled to do either at a high level. As a rookie, he shot under 40 percent and is doing the same thing this season, only with 25.7 percent shooting from 3-point range.

Ideally, Ntilikina could evolve into a player similar to George Hill. From an on-court fit, Ntilikina and Young fit together perfectly on both sides of the ball. However, how much will he cost in a trade?

I've been thinking about him on the Hawks since I saw his name floated around in trade speculation. We can use some defense.
I'm thinking Jent can improve his shooting like he did for Bembry.

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of the Boris Diaw situation: playing out of position, wanting him to be something he's not, etc.

[Spud2nique]

I do like him as a trade target. Though, I'm not sure he's a perfect fit with Trae or JC.
(He'd mesh well with Huerter...in theory.)

Read on Twitter

If the New York Knicks move on from Frank Ntilikina, the Atlanta Hawks would be an excellent fit for the second-year guard.

So far, Ntilikina has played 61 percent of his minutes at point guard and 39 percent at the off-guard spot, per Basketball-Reference. He’s played in 23 games and started just 14. Several teams have expressed interest, with as many as five teams interested in Ntilikina, creating a stir that he might be available.

For the Atlanta Hawks, Ntilikina is not only a good fit for where the Hawks are on the contention timeline, but he’s an excellent roster fit for a team that could use a bit more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Sitting at 23rd in the league in defensive efficiency, the Hawks could use some help on that end of the floor.

Through his first 100 games in the NBA, Ntilikina has shown an advanced defensive acumen. As a rookie, he was one of the league’s best players in defending the pick-and-roll. When you combine his defensive intelligence with his great size — he’s 6’7″ with a 7’0″ wingspan — you have a potential perimeter force on the defensive end.

In terms of a roster fit, Frank Ntilikina would be the yin to Trae Young’s yang.

For all the positives on the defensive side of the ball, Ntilikina has struggled as an offensive option. While he can handle the ball, he doesn’t have traditional point guard creation skills. From a viewer’s perspective, it doesn’t seem fluid with Ntilikina as the lead ball-handler and lead creator. It comes and goes with him just getting to the rim, too.

The biggest wart on his list of weaknesses is his shooting. Most good players have the ability to either shoot or pass and right now, Ntilikina has struggled to do either at a high level. As a rookie, he shot under 40 percent and is doing the same thing this season, only with 25.7 percent shooting from 3-point range.

Ideally, Ntilikina could evolve into a player similar to George Hill. From an on-court fit, Ntilikina and Young fit together perfectly on both sides of the ball. However, how much will he cost in a trade?

I've been thinking about him on the Hawks since I saw his name floated around in trade speculation. We can use some defense.
I'm thinking Jent can improve his shooting like he did for Bembry.

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of the Boris Diaw situation: playing out of position, wanting him to be something he's not, etc.

I’d be willing to deal for him. We need a big guard to play alongside Trae and a defensive one at that. What’s the price?

[Jamaaliver]

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of the Boris Diaw situation: playing out of position, wanting him to be something he's not, etc.

That's a really astute observation. And it fits...right down to the country of origin and that doughy physique.
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I’d be willing to deal for him. We need a big guard to play alongside Trae and a defensive one at that. What’s the price?

I'd toss them that stupid, CLE pick. 2020 is a weak draft and French Frank is still a 1st round talent.

If they want to include K Knox (as a Knick fan suggested last week), I'd toss in Taurean and a protected 2nd rounder. (We have too many 2nd round picks at this point.)

[Spud2nique]

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of the Boris Diaw situation: playing out of position, wanting him to be something he's not, etc.

That's a really astute observation. And it fits...right down to the country of origin and that doughy physique.
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I’d be willing to deal for him. We need a big guard to play alongside Trae and a defensive one at that. What’s the price?

I'd toss them that stupid, CLE pick. 2020 is a weak draft and French Frank is still a 1st round talent.

If they want to include K Knox (as a Knick fan suggested last week), I'd toss in Taurean and a protected 2nd rounder. (We have too many 2nd round picks at this point.)

Jaybird also thinks that Pepper Johnson looks like Sugar Ray! I don’t want Knox.

[jayu70]

I do like him as a trade target. Though, I'm not sure he's a perfect fit with Trae or JC.
(He'd mesh well with Huerter...in theory.)

Read on Twitter

I've been thinking about him on the Hawks since I saw his name floated around in trade speculation. We can use some defense.
I'm thinking Jent can improve his shooting like he did for Bembry.

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of the Boris Diaw situation: playing out of position, wanting him to be something he's not, etc.

I’d be willing to deal for him. We need a big guard to play alongside Trae and a defensive one at that. What’s the price?

He's making $4 million, so I'm not sure who meets the salary matching criteria from the Hawks.
I'm assuming NYK would be looking for an expiring contract, so It'll have to be something like:

Frank and Lee (has 1 year left after this year) for Lin. In terms of a pick, not sure where his value ranks. I'd easily send our 2019 2nd since we'd be taking on Lee's salary for next season.

[Spud2nique]

I've been thinking about him on the Hawks since I saw his name floated around in trade speculation. We can use some defense.
I'm thinking Jent can improve his shooting like he did for Bembry.

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of the Boris Diaw situation: playing out of position, wanting him to be something he's not, etc.

I’d be willing to deal for him. We need a big guard to play alongside Trae and a defensive one at that. What’s the price?

He's making $4 million, so I'm not sure who meets the salary matching criteria from the Hawks.
I'm assuming NYK would be looking for an expiring contract, so It'll have to be something like:

Frank and Lee (has 1 year left after this year) for Lin. In terms of a pick, not sure where his value ranks. I'd easily send our 2019 2nd since we'd be taking on Lee's salary for next season.

I would for that price. Knicks are dumb.

[51X3RF4N]

So if I'm reading some of the reactions correctly, would it be fair to say a package of Bazemore and Prince leaving ATL would be welcomed if the return is young players, picks, and expiring contracts?

As a Sixers fan, I want to identify a possible trade that sends both of those guys to Philly to complete the starting lineup.

Zhaire Smith, Korkmaz, Bolden, Fultz and Patton no longer fit the current Sixers timeline.

But from an on court/depth perspective I wouldn't to give up Wilson Chandler, JJ, or Mike Muscala as part of a salary match. They would all be key bench contributors.

So that leaves me with $20M incoming to Philly, and the main piece needing to go out would be Fultz to make the salaries anywhere close.

Is there a 3rd team that could be brought in if Fultz doesn't move the needle for Atlanta?

Something like Fultz, Patton (after 12/15), Zhaire, Korkmaz, and maybe a first if needed?

Maybe the Sixers need to use the Saric trade exception to make it work too? Or throw Muscala to a 3rd team and send something else over to ATL?

I think a lineup of

Simmons/Shamet/TJ
Bazemore/JJ
Butler/Chandler
Prince/Bolden
Embiid/Amir

Has enough versatility and defense with enough outside shooting to be serious contenders against Boston and Toronto. Chandler and Simmons would split time at the 4 spot too, with even Simmons and Bolden playing some small ball 5 on defense when needed.

Secondary moves would be to bring in a backup C in the buyout market.

Bazemore would be locked up for 2019-2020 and there would still be enough to sign Butler to his massive deal if he opts out, as well as still probably $11M more available for free agency in summer of 2019 to fill out any other depth issues.

If the deal can be done with keeping Muscala from a salary standpoint, then even better.

Sixers have a 2 year window to then push for a Finals appearances or 2, and then Bazemore can either walk away and free up $20M, or sign for lesser money on 1 year deals like JJ.