2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread (Pt 2)

Post #301 » by **KingDavid** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:23 am

Clyde Frazier wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah… this isn’t cool. Not the first time he’s made dumb comments when it comes to international guys and their backgrounds.

Give it time. Everyone will know who he is and where he's from, soon.

Post #302 » by **KingDavid** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:34 am

Clyde Frazier wrote:

Read on Twitter

That stepback is flat out lethal!

This is how he reminds me of harden. I'm willing to bet next year he starts doing that annoying step back Harden loves catching people with. I like how he initiates post ups the moment he gets a mismatch.

I need some Larry bird clips, if you can provide? I don't see the correlation.

Post #303 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:46 am

KingDavid wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:

Read on Twitter

That stepback is flat out lethal!

This is how he reminds me of harden. I'm willing to bet next year he starts doing that annoying step back Harden loves catching people with. I like how he initiates post ups the moment he gets a mismatch.

I need some Larry bird clips, if you can provide? I don't see the correlation.

Watch on YouTube

The NBA really came through with this one. It's excellent.

Young gun 6 · Post #304 » by **Young gun 6** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 5:36 am

No Luka love today?

gh123 · Post #305 » by **gh123** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 5:42 am

Young gun 6 wrote:No Luka love today?

No, he had a bad game, you may start crapping on him.

burek3 · Post #306 » by **burek3** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 9:31 am

Certified bust.

Johnny Firpo · Post #307 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 10:24 am

Young gun 6 wrote:No Luka love today?

Hahaha, how pathetic you are, you celebrate a bad game like it's Christmas. Must have been tough for you.

batigol18 · Post #308 » by **batigol18** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 10:54 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Young gun 6 wrote:No Luka love today?

Hahaha, how pathetic you are, you celebrate a bad game like it's Christmas. Must have been tough for you.

basically, if luka would play his regular minutes, he would be something like:

- 12 points
- 9 assist
- 6 rebounds

He didn't play that much because the game was lost and there was no sense to play just to pad up his stats...

Young gun 6 · Post #309 » by **Young gun 6** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:47 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:
Young gun 6 wrote:No Luka love today?

Hahaha, how pathetic you are, you celebrate a bad game like it's Christmas. Must have been tough for you.

Hook, line and sinker.

Here fishy fishy, here fishy fishy

Johnny Firpo · Post #310 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 12:19 pm

Young gun 6 wrote:Hook, line and sinker.

Here fishy fishy, here fishy fishy

Wow, you got me, you maniacal villain.

koyotee · Post #311 » by **koyotee** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 1:50 pm

So for some fresh news regarding doncics stepback from the blazers game in the last minute, here's an official statement from the nba refs:

peja_the_legend · Post #312 » by **peja_the_legend** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:15 pm

NBA has invented the "gather" to legalise moves that if someone pulled on playgrounds everyone would laugh at him

What Doncic does is legal according to modern NBA rules.At the same time he takes 4 steps without dribbling.

Johnny Firpo · Post #313 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 3:10 pm

peja_the_legend wrote:NBA has invented the "gather" to legalise moves that if someone pulled on playgrounds everyone would laugh at him

What Doncic does is legal according to modern NBA rules.At the same time he takes 4 steps without dribbling.

Are you talking about the step back? He dribbles the ball twice, and steps back (with two steps) immediately after the second dribble, that's legal even in Europe. If anything, it was a travel at the beginning, he stepped before making the first dribble. Use your eyes, man.

Rn5ho · Post #314 » by **Rn5ho** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 3:19 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
peja_the_legend wrote:NBA has invented the "gather" to legalise moves that if someone pulled on playgrounds everyone would laugh at him

What Doncic does is legal according to modern NBA rules.At the same time he takes 4 steps without dribbling.

Are you talking about the step back? He dribbles the ball twice, and steps back (with two steps) immediately after the second dribble, that's legal even in Europe. If anything, it was a travel at the beginning, he stepped before making the first dribble. Use your eyes, man.

Don't bother, he's one of the top 5 Doncic haters on RealGM, he only comes around when there's some fire to add fuel to. Not worth your time.

BTW Peja - what's your opinion on Luka so far?

gh123 · Post #315 » by **gh123** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 3:24 pm

I'm one of the homers, but in Europe that's travel 10 out of 10 times. NBA has been a joke regarding travels since always.

Johnny Firpo · Post #316 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 3:32 pm

gh123 wrote:I'm one of the homers, but in Europe that's travel 10 out of 10 times. NBA has been a joke regarding travels since always.

Are you sure? He takes two steps after the second dribble. The beginning is travel for sure.

Post #317 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 5:28 pm

gh123 wrote:
nolang1 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
please elaborate

Can't create for himself or others, not a good shooter, thus a liability.

46 from the field 36 from 3 and 81 from the free throw line

has taken over the primary ball handling duties for the team.

sidenote: fits right in with the other 2 defensive hounds the Clips play at guard.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this liability thing.

nolang1 · Post #318 » by **nolang1** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 5:34 pm

Marcus wrote:
gh123 wrote:
nolang1 wrote:

Can't create for himself or others, not a good shooter, thus a liability.

46 from the field 36 from 3 and 81 from the free throw line

has taken over the primary ball handling duties for the team.

sidenote: fits right in with the other 2 defensive hounds the Clips play at guard.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this liability thing.

I don't think it's that deep. He's 19 and has bad games from time to time. His RPM is in the negative. He's very good for a 19-year-old but it should not be controversial to say that the Clippers would be just as good or better so far with like Cory Joseph in his spot. Young players (especially guards) are just not very consistent: it's the same kind of thing for Luka where you have people saying he should be an All-Star in large part because his games like last night get swept under the rug in a way they wouldn't for someone like Lillard or Westbrook. It's just an entirely different stratosphere for rookies versus vets.

Post #319 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 6:09 pm

nolang1 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
gh123 wrote:
Can't create for himself or others, not a good shooter, thus a liability.

46 from the field 36 from 3 and 81 from the free throw line

has taken over the primary ball handling duties for the team.

sidenote: fits right in with the other 2 defensive hounds the Clips play at guard.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this liability thing.

I don't think it's that deep. He's 19 and has bad games from time to time. His RPM is in the negative. He's very good for a 19-year-old but it should not be controversial to say that the Clippers would be just as good or better so far with like Cory Joseph in his spot. Young players (especially guards) are just not very consistent: it's the same kind of thing for Luka where you have people saying he should be an All-Star in large part because his games like last night get swept under the rug in a way they wouldn't for someone like Lillard or Westbrook. It's just an entirely different stratosphere for rookies versus vets.

not arguing for SGA over a vet. I said and am saying i don't think he's a liability. I don't think having Shai on the court causes Ls for the Clippers. Didn't say finished product, didn't say future all-star, didn't say ROY, didn't say GOAT. All i said was i don't think he's a liability. He has bad games, can make mistakes on the floor, dies on screens more often than i'd like, looks every bit of a 19 yr old rookie PG at times, he's not the star, or future franchise player. I just don't think he hurts the team more than he helps.

nolang1 · Post #320 » by **nolang1** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 6:40 pm

Marcus wrote:
nolang1 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
46 from the field 36 from 3 and 81 from the free throw line

has taken over the primary ball handling duties for the team.

sidenote: fits right in with the other 2 defensive hounds the Clips play at guard.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this liability thing.

I don't think it's that deep. He's 19 and has bad games from time to time. His RPM is in the negative. He's very good for a 19-year-old but it should not be controversial to say that the Clippers would be just as good or better so far with like Cory Joseph in his spot. Young players (especially guards) are just not very consistent: it's the same kind of thing for Luka where you have people saying he should be an All-Star in large part because his games like last night get swept under the rug in a way they wouldn't for someone like Lillard or Westbrook. It's just an entirely different stratosphere for rookies versus vets.

not arguing for SGA over a vet. I said and am saying i don't think he's a liability. I don't think having Shai on the court causes Ls for the Clippers. Didn't say finished product, didn't say future all-star, didn't say ROY, didn't say GOAT. All i said was i don't think he's a liability. He has bad games, can make mistakes on the floor, dies on screens more often than i'd like, looks every bit of a 19 yr old rookie PG at times, he's not the star, or future franchise player. I just don't think he hurts the team more than he helps.

OK you seem to be making an entirely different argument then.

Who do you think are the best two rookies?